Mitt Romney is going to be invalidated as nominee of the Republican party! GTFIH

If our elected officials get to violate the laws they write and walk away scot-free, then what's stopping people in a political party?
 
Yes, they offered joint fundraising to all the campaigns (at the time, Santorum and Gingrich were still in the race.)

The RNC is not declaring Romney their nominee with joint fundraising. Not officially, anyway. And there's nothing "illegitimate" about it... campaigns work to raise funds with their party during the general election.

The Paul campaign, along with Gingrich and Santorum's camps, turned down the offer because the money raised with the party can only be used during the general election, and not for primary activities. At the time, it looked unlikely that those three would be able to raise funds for the general election since it looked unlikely they would be the GOP nominee.

Again, the RNC is not officially declaring Romney the nominee and the money cannot be used until the general election begins. This is standard practice and was offered to each campaign, including Ron Paul. It's important that we have the facts when discussing this type of stuff.

More info: http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns...y-camp-to-start-joint-fundraising-119430.html
 
Yes, they offered joint fundraising to all the campaigns (at the time, Santorum and Gingrich were still in the race.)

The RNC is not declaring Romney their nominee with joint fundraising. Not officially, anyway. And there's nothing "illegitimate" about it... campaigns work to raise funds with their party during the general election.

The Paul campaign, along with Gingrich and Santorum's camps, turned down the offer because the money raised with the party can only be used during the general election, and not for primary activities. At the time, it looked unlikely that those three would be able to raise funds for the general election since it looked unlikely they would be the GOP nominee.

Again, the RNC is not officially declaring Romney the nominee and the money cannot be used until the general election begins. This is standard practice and was offered to each campaign, including Ron Paul. It's important that we have the facts when discussing this type of stuff.

More info: http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns...y-camp-to-start-joint-fundraising-119430.html

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case closed
 
THIS^^
simple but hard truth, they are doing this just so that they can "unite" the voters behind him, and ignore Dr.Paul.
with all the kind of favoratism and bias going on during the caucuses, vote counting and delegate selection, this is one minor thing, he will get away with.

Rules don't apply to the people that write them
 
Keep dreaming. I guarantee this rule has been broken in every election, even 2008. Rules and laws get violated without punishment and there certainly won't be any punishments that end a campaign. McCain broke loads of FEC laws in the last election (even his own McCain-Feingold campaign reform) and ended up the nominee. The difference is that we notice this stuff because we're on the ball and hypersensitive.
 
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RNC is treated as "Private". So you come into my house and break some rules in my house, its not something you you could take me to court over if I kicked you out. At the same time, I let you and another guy in my house, I might even go so far as to let the other guy get away with breaking the rules, but not you.

If we do anything, we ought to find a way to get Romney indicted for Money Laundering, Tax Evasion, and the shitload of other laws and chargable crimes that we all know damn well he is guilty as sin over. We do that, we discredit him to the point where the Republican Party disassociates themselves from him, then we get the Nomination. Dig deep. Find real charges that we can make stick to Romney.
 
RNC is treated as "Private". So you come into my house and break some rules in my house, its not something you you could take me to court over if I kicked you out. At the same time, I let you and another guy in my house, I might even go so far as to let the other guy get away with breaking the rules, but not you.

If we do anything, we ought to find a way to get Romney indicted for Money Laundering, Tax Evasion, and the shitload of other laws and chargable crimes that we all know damn well he is guilty as sin over. We do that, we discredit him to the point where the Republican Party disassociates themselves from him, then we get the Nomination. Dig deep. Find real charges that we can make stick to Romney.


If I gave you a tonne of money so you could buy your house, on the grounds that you would stick to a set of rules and then you violated those rules... I might be able to shank you pretty hard in court.
 
I was already told that by a state chairmen. That we write the rules and you have to play by our game or we will change it.
 
I think this, coupled with proof of a Romney paid staffer putting out fake delegate slates caught on camera is going to make things very interesting over the next couple weeks. Now if we can just get it out there. I wish RP campaign would hold a press conference announcing these two incidents. Media will show up, they will think he's dropping out and they can start the coronation in earnest. (Not that they haven't already).
 
Don't wait for the treasonous criminals who control the RNC to be honorable. They will not be.
 
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The donations are held in a "victory fund" and will not be disbursed until after the convention. That is how the RNC/Romney campaign are skirting rule 11. They will get away with it IMO.
 
Fun idea: lets win the nomination and then demand the funds that Romney raised for the "Nominee"
 
How is IN-KIND AID defined? Perhaps FREE MEDIA calling him the nominee would be considered IN-KIND AID?
 
reason enough for bound delegates to vote freely in first ballot

It can be brought up as a point of order mid-business at the relevant (possibly all) state conventions no?

Correct and dismissal or inappropriate procedural handling of it would be reason enough to walk out of the convention and produce an alternate convention that deals with fairness in the process of electing a nominee.

But more importantly, that kind of violation, blatant, open, factual and verifiable is a good reason why Florida bound delegates can vote their conscience during the first ballot and challenge the florida rule that all delegates must vote as a unit. as well as any other bound delegate from any other state and territories.
 
Yes, they offered joint fundraising to all the campaigns (at the time, Santorum and Gingrich were still in the race.)

The RNC is not declaring Romney their nominee with joint fundraising. Not officially, anyway. And there's nothing "illegitimate" about it... campaigns work to raise funds with their party during the general election.

The Paul campaign, along with Gingrich and Santorum's camps, turned down the offer because the money raised with the party can only be used during the general election, and not for primary activities. At the time, it looked unlikely that those three would be able to raise funds for the general election since it looked unlikely they would be the GOP nominee.

Again, the RNC is not officially declaring Romney the nominee and the money cannot be used until the general election begins. This is standard practice and was offered to each campaign, including Ron Paul. It's important that we have the facts when discussing this type of stuff.

Really? You might want to rethink your answer after this statement. This was made AFTER Santorum and Gingrich have dropped out. You are incorrect. The RNC is in direct violation of Rule#11.

On 4/25/2012 the RNC made this statement:

"Governor Romney's strong performance and delegate count at this stage of the primary process has made him our party's presumptive nominee," Mr. Priebus said. "In order to maximize our efforts I have directed my staff at the R.N.C. to open lines of communication with the Romney campaign."
and
"It's my intention to have a seamless and complete merger between the presumptive nominee and the Republican National Committee," Mr. Priebus said. "That means political, communications, fund-raising, research and the chairman's office, along with the governor's main operational team, are completely merged."
 
"in kind aid" is a letter from the RNC to the Nevada party chairman threatening to not seat the delegation if a big enough Paul supporters delegation was elected. and probably many other such occurrences to many other states party convention chairs that make factual the illusion that Romney is assumed the RNC nominee.

Rule 11 (b) is the perfect reason why a bound delegate may abstain during the first ballot claiming the RNC violated Rule 11(a) and that the election process has been unfair and that Romney does not reflect the true sentiment of the Republican party members. Rules 11(b) can be claimed as the reason why any bound delegate of the Florida delegation or the Puertorican delegation may not only abstain from the unit rule but require his or her vote to be published, even during the first ballot. And it is a good reason to amend the rules or suspend the rules prior to the first ballot so those who have conscientious objections to unfairness and bias by the RNC towards Romney may cast their ballot the way they believe is right and have clear conscience before God and men that our democracy is being performed fairly and legally.
 
Do you want to know how I know Romney can and will be invalidated?

Given we as MEMBERS, of the Republican party follow the rules, we can also hold other members accountable, it is a collective Party. We can take them to court, if the campaign doesn't if we have enough people we can file a class action lawsuit. Stop doubting and lets find the wherewithal to do this!


We can sue! We are members of the Republican party, and we can hold them accountable for disrupting the process
 
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