Mitch McConnell hires Jesse Benton to run his 2014 re-election bid

Oh FFS can we take the geeky girl fight about pixels and ubergeek shit to another thread? This is about Jesse Benton - The Benedict Arnold of the Liberty movement.
 
Yes let's get back to the nuts and bolts. Anyone else see an analogy to a corporation hiring a competitors key staff in order to initiate a hostile takeover?
 
RickyJ said:
Yeah, where are Jesse's defenders now? I wonder how many still think he wasn't trying to sabotage the campaign.

Enjoy your money that you took from the grassroots Jesse, it will lead to your total destruction. Money can't buy you happiness.
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I'm a Jesse defender. I wouldn't argue that he's a political genius, but I don't think he's guilty of the things he's accused of.
 
cajuncocoa said:
Because RON DARES TO SPEAK THE TRUTH!! Those who have "hostility" toward him can't face the truth and need to be educated, not pandered to!!
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Maybe, at other times that consistency that we like so much causes people to dislike him. Symbolic gestures like endorsements that Rand'll do and Ron won't.
 
parocks said:
No, I don't really care about speeches. I want less government. And we need to have the politicians who will vote for less government.
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parocks, in my estimation: it is a lot earlier than you think. Most people are not libertarians. They are thus not going to support the implementation of libertarianism. Because that's just not what they support.

You can drive yourself crazy trying to twist yourself in knots, invent brilliant sneaky strategies, fool people into electing libertarians, etc., but I do not think that is a lasting long-term strategy for success. The numbers just aren't there. It wouldn't make any sense for Ron Paul to get elected -- nor for Rand -- because most people just don't support what they support.

Most people aren't like us. We are a small minority. We aren't going to get success wearing ourselves out seeking political success from a populace which does not share our political views.

We succeed through self-improvement and education. Especially self-improvement. We have to be patient. Crazed impatience will drive you crazy, and eventually drive you to try things like lying and compromising your principles, and then of course you still won't succeed and so you'll go even crazier. I've seen it happen to people in the liberty movement.

Anyway, I personally wish that someone had done your free concerts and college-kids-GOTV idea. I think it was a great idea.

Did you read the Tom Woods "memories" piece?
 
parocks said:
Maybe, at other times that consistency that we like so much causes people to dislike him. Symbolic gestures like endorsements that Rand'll do and Ron won't.
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Speak for yourself. Anyone who dislikes Ron Paul for any reason doesn't need to be making assumptions in the Ron Paul forum. There's a Rand sandpit you can go play in.
 
sailingaway said:
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I know he ran against Thomas, but honestly, if Thomas hadn't run, I'd have wanted us behind Marcus.
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He showed some promise on the issue of sound money, but when the primary started, he went after Ron with a vengeance and he went after "the extreme elements of the Tea Party" with a vengeance as well. IMO, his true establishment colors came out.
 
Sola_Fide said:
He showed some promise on the issue of sound money, but when the primary started, he went after Ron with a vengeance and he went after "the extreme elements of the Tea Party" with a vengeance as well. IMO, his true establishment colors came out.
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He also came out in favor of intervening militarily in Syria. I think he was getting paid in some way for some of his blog posts. He's supposedly all about the Kentucky grassroots. I don't think Kentucky grassroots cared all that much about overthrowing Assad.
 
parocks said:
Maybe, at other times that consistency that we like so much causes people to dislike him. Symbolic gestures like endorsements that Rand'll do and Ron won't.
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I think you may have stopped reading my post after the first sentence...let me repeat (paraphrase) the 2nd: Those who need symbolic gestures need to be EDUCATED, not PANDERED TO with inappropriate endorsements.
 
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Have no doubt that to get on board with McConnell that Benton had to say something like, "You know, I really don't believe all that stuff about auditing the Fed, ending the wars, etc."

Benton might be our next Eric Donderooooo.
 
cajuncocoa said:
I think you may have stopped reading my post after the first sentence...let me repeat (paraphrase) the 2nd: Those who need symbolic gestures need to be EDUCATED, not PANDERED TO with inappropriate endorsements.
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To elaborate on this point of view, sometimes failing to do what is expected creates a teachable moment.

But I'm speaking in general terms in terms of Ron's consistency. I don't need to make this him v Rand. Ron is Ron.
 
This is a final confirmation to mine and many others' here suspicions about this sellout.

Go have a nice lucrative career in politics and suckering more people's money.

Fuck you Jesse Benton. There's only a minority of posters left here I believe that would not agree with that sentiment.
 
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