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Thanks for the heads up Michael... :-}
Missouri Police Report: RP supporters, Libertarians, anti-NWO movement are TERRORISTS
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Thanks for the heads up Michael... :-}
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I must admit I just couldn't wrap my brain around this. The doc looks so amateurish to me. But, if this thing is real, and the reason it exists is because some so-called militia killed one or more policemen, then I want details. What militia, what police, when, and where???? Prove it.
This seems like an attempt to further erode our 2nd amendment rights to form a "well regulated militia" in order to keep a free state. They are attempting to paint all militias with the same brush i.e. 'a militia killed police'. We have to preserve our right to form militias before they completely demonize the term and make it illegal. This is where we're heading folks.
This seems like an attempt to further erode our 2nd amendment rights to form a "well regulated militia" in order to keep a free state. They are attempting to paint all militias with the same brush i.e. 'a militia killed police'. We have to preserve our right to form militias before they completely demonize the term and make it illegal. This is where we're heading folks.
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Glad you found it, Deborah. The theory is that the SPLC actually put this together, and Missouri just put their name on it. We're trying hard to make the state regret that decision.
But I sure wish there was proof that the SPLC did indeed do this. I'd much rather go after the source...
But I sure wish there was proof that the SPLC did indeed do this. I'd much rather go after the source...
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Remember folks.
This revolution, calling for an end to the Fed, the IRS, the warfare and welfare states - you are calling for the end of a system that is fostered and run by people who would kill you for money.
Those fat cats, globalists, and whatever else you want to call them: they kill for money and power.
It's hard for someone who lives on the principles of wanting to be left alone and willing to do the same to fathom or understand the kind of mind that wants power and money.
We can marvel at this, these people, who have enough money to fly their helicopters over our traffic jams, don't have to eat the poison we are stuck with in our supermarkets, can live in their mansions in their private little islands.... I can go on.
What is it then, that while they have it all, they keep wanting to take and take and take.
Understand that, and you understand what you are really dealing with. Some dare call it evil, others call it greed. It makes as much sense as a gambling addiction: "Why?". But nobody calls the personality of a plutocrat to be a disorder - yet.
These are people who will start a war in a small country and kill tens of thousands so they can get an oil pipeline or take over the drug operations there.
These are people who will (and have) paid farmers to plow crops under to keep prices up, and the power of their fiat money, while people starved to death (this was in the USA, by the way).
These are people who run a black op government, a pit of lies so deep they even lose themselves in it, for killing stealing, and to relish in it.
So what makes you think you are automatically safe from them because all you did was politely ask for your freedom back? What makes you think you would not be a target when you demand real money - the kind that they cannot maintain power over? What makes you think you would not be demonized when you ask to keep what money you have when they rely on it to keep their system rolling? What would the drug dealer in your town do to you if you tried to get drugs legalized? Get the picture?
Their system is going bankrupt, their legitimacy is going with it. It's no longer just a few living thinking Paulians and libertarians in a world of brainless consumer zombies.
There are a lot of theives and murderers in their smokey backrooms, getting scared.
And they have good reason to be.
And the so-called "militia" they are afraid of, they are more afraid of that militia than anything else. But not for what that militia can do. In fact, that militia, alone, cannot do anything. Even worse, that militia is not trained well enough - or not "well regulated". It's not "Bubba and his SKS" they are afraid of.
That militia needs the activists, the legal eagles, and the philosophers. They need the militia. Most of them are the militia. The militia are also activists when you consider that war is diplomacy by other means. When the choice is comply and starve, or do not comply and be arrested or killed, then someone is going to die anyway.
Because the 3 latter elements are what a real movement towards freedom needs. Militia are just guys with guns, mostly. Ask anyone who considered himself "militia" over the years or in some respect beyond what George Mason would say it is, and he will say he is not surprised at this MIAC fiasco.
But here is the funny part: most of them would have never put a Ron Paul bumper sticker on his car anyway. They know this game - the rest of you are learning it. This is an old game. There is a long list of people who did demand their liberty and got nailed to the wall for it.
You want to know what stands between the plutocrats and their power?
It's not the militia.
It's you. All of you.
If they can get you to run from, or abandon the militia concept, chase the gun owners out of the CFL and other groups, and have the rest of you constantly being apologetic for your views, starting every article or point with "Well, I'm not for condoning violence but....". Then you all will spend your entire lives, or the rest of it, going nowhere. One ignored petition after the other, one ignored - if not smeared and ridiculed - candidate after the other. And when you are old and gray, if you are allowed to live that long under socialist health care, you will look back to a life of failure.
Will you fail to realize it, like all those McCain supporters and useless GOP hacks who worked against us?
Or will you accept it?
But what, then, are the plutocrats most afraid of?
There is a punchline coming, so pay attention.
The "militia", I put it in quotes because I lean more towards the George Mason concept that it's everybody, but there are people who are above and beyond that concept, knows better than to engage the minions in the field.
Yes you see, the upper echelons of the militia, those people who have more than just a rifle and a voter registration card, know better than to engage the minions.
Here is the punchline:
They write these papers to make sure the minions are the ones thinking they are the target of this so-called militia, so they are led to engage them first, but on behalf of the plutocrats. The cops, soldiers, agents, have to live in this country too. Their kids are just as screwed as anyone elses. The MIAC document is more intended to screw with their heads than screw with yours. If it screws with yours it's just a bonus.
But the idea is to have them thinking they are the target, and the victim, and act in kind. What folly we have seen so far in this culture, where people are shot dead when unarmed for making a fast move like blocking a bright light in their face or reaching for drivers license.
You see, if YOU do your job, the militia can do it's job - which is to defend liberty. Right now, there is nothing for any militia to do, other than make the enemy think twice before going total tyranny. That is, they(the tyrants) have to take time to lie about what they are doing, lest the tyrants look like tyrants which is what they cannot afford to do. They need to run this country like a concentration camp, while we got people looking about for real camps. When you claim this country is a prison, people don't see barbed wire and guard dogs, so they think you are a nut, in spite of all the facts behind your points.
So why lump peaceful activists in with this?
This is to keep you guys from being one and the same. This tactic was successfully done with gun control in the early 90s, as an example. When they managed to seperate the hunters and "golfers with guns" from the people who kept evil black rifles for the implication of the seconds amendment, it became possible to get that level of gun control they sought. For a short time, anyway.
If they get the armed men, the riflemen, out standing alone as a seperate movement to be demonized, set up, and destroyed, just as they did in the 90s, they can finally destroy the militia that exists under 2A and condemn the rest of you to a lifestyle of having only enough freedom to complain about not having freedom.
Some of you took the bait. On some of you that worked.
Now, they want everybody engaging their minions, the brainwashed police mostly, by having their minions in a state of hyperventilating hysterics so much that they can cause an incident. Of course the militia, already knowing this game, will not take this bait. This was already tried over Ed Brown in NH. Remember how the marshalls fretted over the militia threat, then put agents out in the open with light armor and a nylon gazebo. But the militia in NH did not take the bait. Provokers unleashed all over the internet wailed an gnashed their teeth over them "not doing anything", as if they should just start the shooting, but as scripture says, wisdom is always better than weapons of war.
Now, if you all do your job, the militia can do it's job. And that job has two parts:
1. When the leviathan is starting to get beaten in it's own courts, in it's own media, and loses all credibility, it will, again as before and with the same expectation as in Patrick Henry's "War Inevitable" speech, do what it does best. Resort to violence. They will send SWAT, the good guys will send riflemen. Any other way, and it's just another "evil white guys with guns killing poor sweet innoocent law enforcement agents!". This is so much the factor that they might produce another OKC, with the same suspiscious circumstances (that will persist in their media for 5 minutes, and then only be recalled by infowars and they will send an army of paid Sheer Coincidence Theorists to debunk the facts).
2. Once America is restored, the militia, as an enforcement wing under Article 1, Section 8, go after the plutocrats themselves and bring them back for their crimes. Yes, the fat cat will be hunted down in his compound somewhere, and brought to justice one way or the other. A real congress would see to the proper charges. This is why the militia has no intention of going toe-to-toe with the minions on their terms and getting killed now. The minions, the cops, are not operating with all of the facts. They are like trained dogs. And that dog still needs to be fed. The problem is not the cops or the military, it's the system that fills their food dish. What we are seeing in how they act is exactly how people act when given authority without responsibility. History is full of such results, and rather than attempt to beat human nature (the failed endeavor of progressives), it's better to maintain a just system with strict rules for all parties. But the people behind it - the tyranny, win or lose, can expect to be living in an armed compound in Dubai or Bolivia for the rest of their lives.
And there you have it. If the Paulians, Reaganites, CFL, YAL, etc do their job, there will be another 1775. Not because we want it, not because we want violence or bloodshed. I think Benjamin Martin, Mel Gibson's characer in "The Patriot" detailed these implications in particular in describing that this war would affect us in such ways as being everywhere, but it's freedom we want, from an entity that does not intend to give it. Asking niceley is merely a formality that makes you look good in the history books.
The enemy kills for power and money. They always have, always will. I need not have to describe then what you have to do to keep from being subjugated by them, and to keep your money.
This revolution, calling for an end to the Fed, the IRS, the warfare and welfare states - you are calling for the end of a system that is fostered and run by people who would kill you for money.
Those fat cats, globalists, and whatever else you want to call them: they kill for money and power.
It's hard for someone who lives on the principles of wanting to be left alone and willing to do the same to fathom or understand the kind of mind that wants power and money.
We can marvel at this, these people, who have enough money to fly their helicopters over our traffic jams, don't have to eat the poison we are stuck with in our supermarkets, can live in their mansions in their private little islands.... I can go on.
What is it then, that while they have it all, they keep wanting to take and take and take.
Understand that, and you understand what you are really dealing with. Some dare call it evil, others call it greed. It makes as much sense as a gambling addiction: "Why?". But nobody calls the personality of a plutocrat to be a disorder - yet.
These are people who will start a war in a small country and kill tens of thousands so they can get an oil pipeline or take over the drug operations there.
These are people who will (and have) paid farmers to plow crops under to keep prices up, and the power of their fiat money, while people starved to death (this was in the USA, by the way).
These are people who run a black op government, a pit of lies so deep they even lose themselves in it, for killing stealing, and to relish in it.
So what makes you think you are automatically safe from them because all you did was politely ask for your freedom back? What makes you think you would not be a target when you demand real money - the kind that they cannot maintain power over? What makes you think you would not be demonized when you ask to keep what money you have when they rely on it to keep their system rolling? What would the drug dealer in your town do to you if you tried to get drugs legalized? Get the picture?
Their system is going bankrupt, their legitimacy is going with it. It's no longer just a few living thinking Paulians and libertarians in a world of brainless consumer zombies.
There are a lot of theives and murderers in their smokey backrooms, getting scared.
And they have good reason to be.
And the so-called "militia" they are afraid of, they are more afraid of that militia than anything else. But not for what that militia can do. In fact, that militia, alone, cannot do anything. Even worse, that militia is not trained well enough - or not "well regulated". It's not "Bubba and his SKS" they are afraid of.
That militia needs the activists, the legal eagles, and the philosophers. They need the militia. Most of them are the militia. The militia are also activists when you consider that war is diplomacy by other means. When the choice is comply and starve, or do not comply and be arrested or killed, then someone is going to die anyway.
Because the 3 latter elements are what a real movement towards freedom needs. Militia are just guys with guns, mostly. Ask anyone who considered himself "militia" over the years or in some respect beyond what George Mason would say it is, and he will say he is not surprised at this MIAC fiasco.
But here is the funny part: most of them would have never put a Ron Paul bumper sticker on his car anyway. They know this game - the rest of you are learning it. This is an old game. There is a long list of people who did demand their liberty and got nailed to the wall for it.
You want to know what stands between the plutocrats and their power?
It's not the militia.
It's you. All of you.
If they can get you to run from, or abandon the militia concept, chase the gun owners out of the CFL and other groups, and have the rest of you constantly being apologetic for your views, starting every article or point with "Well, I'm not for condoning violence but....". Then you all will spend your entire lives, or the rest of it, going nowhere. One ignored petition after the other, one ignored - if not smeared and ridiculed - candidate after the other. And when you are old and gray, if you are allowed to live that long under socialist health care, you will look back to a life of failure.
Will you fail to realize it, like all those McCain supporters and useless GOP hacks who worked against us?
Or will you accept it?
But what, then, are the plutocrats most afraid of?
There is a punchline coming, so pay attention.
The "militia", I put it in quotes because I lean more towards the George Mason concept that it's everybody, but there are people who are above and beyond that concept, knows better than to engage the minions in the field.
Yes you see, the upper echelons of the militia, those people who have more than just a rifle and a voter registration card, know better than to engage the minions.
Here is the punchline:
They write these papers to make sure the minions are the ones thinking they are the target of this so-called militia, so they are led to engage them first, but on behalf of the plutocrats. The cops, soldiers, agents, have to live in this country too. Their kids are just as screwed as anyone elses. The MIAC document is more intended to screw with their heads than screw with yours. If it screws with yours it's just a bonus.
But the idea is to have them thinking they are the target, and the victim, and act in kind. What folly we have seen so far in this culture, where people are shot dead when unarmed for making a fast move like blocking a bright light in their face or reaching for drivers license.
You see, if YOU do your job, the militia can do it's job - which is to defend liberty. Right now, there is nothing for any militia to do, other than make the enemy think twice before going total tyranny. That is, they(the tyrants) have to take time to lie about what they are doing, lest the tyrants look like tyrants which is what they cannot afford to do. They need to run this country like a concentration camp, while we got people looking about for real camps. When you claim this country is a prison, people don't see barbed wire and guard dogs, so they think you are a nut, in spite of all the facts behind your points.
So why lump peaceful activists in with this?
This is to keep you guys from being one and the same. This tactic was successfully done with gun control in the early 90s, as an example. When they managed to seperate the hunters and "golfers with guns" from the people who kept evil black rifles for the implication of the seconds amendment, it became possible to get that level of gun control they sought. For a short time, anyway.
If they get the armed men, the riflemen, out standing alone as a seperate movement to be demonized, set up, and destroyed, just as they did in the 90s, they can finally destroy the militia that exists under 2A and condemn the rest of you to a lifestyle of having only enough freedom to complain about not having freedom.
Some of you took the bait. On some of you that worked.
Now, they want everybody engaging their minions, the brainwashed police mostly, by having their minions in a state of hyperventilating hysterics so much that they can cause an incident. Of course the militia, already knowing this game, will not take this bait. This was already tried over Ed Brown in NH. Remember how the marshalls fretted over the militia threat, then put agents out in the open with light armor and a nylon gazebo. But the militia in NH did not take the bait. Provokers unleashed all over the internet wailed an gnashed their teeth over them "not doing anything", as if they should just start the shooting, but as scripture says, wisdom is always better than weapons of war.
Now, if you all do your job, the militia can do it's job. And that job has two parts:
1. When the leviathan is starting to get beaten in it's own courts, in it's own media, and loses all credibility, it will, again as before and with the same expectation as in Patrick Henry's "War Inevitable" speech, do what it does best. Resort to violence. They will send SWAT, the good guys will send riflemen. Any other way, and it's just another "evil white guys with guns killing poor sweet innoocent law enforcement agents!". This is so much the factor that they might produce another OKC, with the same suspiscious circumstances (that will persist in their media for 5 minutes, and then only be recalled by infowars and they will send an army of paid Sheer Coincidence Theorists to debunk the facts).
2. Once America is restored, the militia, as an enforcement wing under Article 1, Section 8, go after the plutocrats themselves and bring them back for their crimes. Yes, the fat cat will be hunted down in his compound somewhere, and brought to justice one way or the other. A real congress would see to the proper charges. This is why the militia has no intention of going toe-to-toe with the minions on their terms and getting killed now. The minions, the cops, are not operating with all of the facts. They are like trained dogs. And that dog still needs to be fed. The problem is not the cops or the military, it's the system that fills their food dish. What we are seeing in how they act is exactly how people act when given authority without responsibility. History is full of such results, and rather than attempt to beat human nature (the failed endeavor of progressives), it's better to maintain a just system with strict rules for all parties. But the people behind it - the tyranny, win or lose, can expect to be living in an armed compound in Dubai or Bolivia for the rest of their lives.
And there you have it. If the Paulians, Reaganites, CFL, YAL, etc do their job, there will be another 1775. Not because we want it, not because we want violence or bloodshed. I think Benjamin Martin, Mel Gibson's characer in "The Patriot" detailed these implications in particular in describing that this war would affect us in such ways as being everywhere, but it's freedom we want, from an entity that does not intend to give it. Asking niceley is merely a formality that makes you look good in the history books.
The enemy kills for power and money. They always have, always will. I need not have to describe then what you have to do to keep from being subjugated by them, and to keep your money.
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SPLC? Well that explains it. So, the excuse that some militia was killing police officers is BS? I'm surprised they're not going hot after the minutemen right now. We've been a target of theirs for years.
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This is a continuation of the assault that started in the 90s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbVPXk_2-Mg
Watch all of the congressional testimony. Do some research on OKC, the "official" story does not wash.
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I've already gone through the line of fire deaths in MO for the timeframe. There are only two that names group affiliations (which sets a precedent) both were neo-nazis.
JOIN CoS!!! Help rebuild the real "Organized Militia"
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I'm already a Minuteman!
I have a feeling our border security movement may very well morph into something more.....like maybe what the original Minutemen were.CatherineBleish
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MO Highway Patrol said someone from MO Highway Patrol authored it - we have a sunshine request to find out if that is true..... 2 murders by militia against mo highway patrol in the 80s. One was not even a missouri resident.
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So basically, they can't prove their allegations and reasoning behind developing this "Militia Watch". This just isn't good at all.
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Chuck Baldwin was on AJ's show today and read letter they are sending to MO Gov. and MIAC.
http://www.infowars.com/baldwin-pau...osition-to-miac-report-to-missouri-officials/
http://www.infowars.com/baldwin-pau...osition-to-miac-report-to-missouri-officials/
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Good post, Dok. The French have a phrase to describe these people. It translates as 'sinister pigs' in reference to boars that will keep all other pigs away from the trough even when they're stuffed to the gills.
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I just realized that the MIAC document is part of a 2 part attack.
The first attack was an army of bloggers sent forth on gun boards to smear Ron Paul.
For a good demonstration, check out AR15.com and see if you can find the old threads where any support for Ron Paul resulted in a swarm of posters - all seemingly online 24/7 - to smear, insult, and debunk. Last time I talked to a local arcommer, he bragged about the $100 he donated to Fred Thompson.
It was part of an orchestrated effort to make sure the guys with the guns would write off the campaign and the revolution as a bunch of kooks, lefties, etc. Especially with a site having such a large membership, full of police and military, and people having those black rifles (gasp, horrors!).
The first attack was an army of bloggers sent forth on gun boards to smear Ron Paul.
For a good demonstration, check out AR15.com and see if you can find the old threads where any support for Ron Paul resulted in a swarm of posters - all seemingly online 24/7 - to smear, insult, and debunk. Last time I talked to a local arcommer, he bragged about the $100 he donated to Fred Thompson.
It was part of an orchestrated effort to make sure the guys with the guns would write off the campaign and the revolution as a bunch of kooks, lefties, etc. Especially with a site having such a large membership, full of police and military, and people having those black rifles (gasp, horrors!).
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Well, not entirely unexpected... and I do think it is "good" that the issue is now in the open.
There is lots to do if you want.
1 - Write letters to the editor like:
I just got an e-mail from my local paper to cut it down to 250 (it is now) and they will print it
2 - Visit www.libertyrestorationproject.org and see who to call and what you can do
3- Sign the CfL petition - http://www.campaignforliberty.com/campaigns/citizenspetition.php
4 - help make the KS-MO End the Fed the biggest rally of 4.25.09
hmmm... what else...
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White Supremecists are not militia.
If that is their reason, then they have already revealed their politics, having their motivation being those two murders by people who are not militia.
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Wow, two officers killed over 20 years ago by white supremacists.
That totally justifies making a memo that goes after all of the millions of people who disagree with them politically, or don't support arbitrary government power
Let's consider this logic: The nazi SS were police. We must therefore warn people who about those who are part of these dangerous police groups. When talking to their local crossing guard, for educational purposes only of course, people should be aware that they are part of the same kind of group the SS were, and therefore could throw you in a concentration camp at any moment.
On what planet does this make any sense at all?
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Uh huh. Now, how do we convince the public? Remember, they put a hell of a lot of money and effort into associating us with racists last year. Hard to undo.
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