MISSOURI May 31 - June 2 STATE GOP CONVENTION - LIVESTREAM inside

[sl7yz0r]

not for nothing, we have our foot in the door

 

[trey4sports]

Fucking 0 delegates

 

[tsai3904]

Did Santorum supporters work with Romney instead of us?

 

[axiomata]

not for nothing, we have our foot in the door

Apparently not at the national convention.

 

[Keith and stuff]

That's a shame. A lot of work for nothing, eh? I'd always thought that the Show-Me state hand a temperamental inclination to Paulism, too. Alas.

I've never noticed that. Paul did poorly in MO in 2008 and he did about average in 2012. If you look at the percentage of total state population voting for him in 2012, he did really bad, especially when you consider that MO had an open primary. In fact, Paul only did worse in one open primary state, MS. And Paul barely did worse in MS. MO does offer a little more freedom than the near-by states but there has never been much support for Paul.

 

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I've never noticed that. Paul did poorly in MO in 2008 and he did about average in 2012. If you look at the percentage of total state population voting for him in 2012, he did really bad, especially when you consider that MO had an open primary. In fact, Paul only did worse in one open primary state, MS. And Paul barely did worse in MS. MO does offer a little more freedom than the near-by states but there has never been much support for Paul.

The problem with your assumption is the primary didn't even count. It cost us taxpayers millions of dollars and none of us went and voted. The caucus only counted and that's where a lot of us showed up. As far as the caucus goes Ron Paul did 2 times better than last time.

 

[sailingaway]

why would people bother to vote in a primary that didn't count, unless they were just too disinterested to go to the caucus?

 

[Keith and stuff]

The problem with your assumption is the primary didn't even count. It cost us taxpayers millions of dollars and none of us went and voted. The caucus only counted and that's where a lot of us showed up.

The media reported on it. It shaped the way some of the caucuses were run. It represents what the people of MO that bothered to vote (hardly anyone) actually think. He demonstrated who they support. There are a bunch of states where the primary doesn't count in that it doesn't decide delegates, or at least, it doesn't decide who the delegates actually support.

The caucuses in MO don't have clear, easy to understand results for the news to report on.

It certainly doesn't address the 2008 results. I'm not trying to argue with you but the fact that the primary didn't decide the delegates doesn't discount anything I said.

As far as the caucus goes Ron Paul did 2 times better than last time.

That's excellent! Good work. He also did better in the primary (slightly better or up to over 2 times better, depending on how you define it.)

why would people bother to vote in a primary that didn't count, unless they were just too disinterested to go to the caucus?

That's how things work in state after state. There is a ballot and some people vote. To the average voter, the easier voting is, the more likely they are to vote. It clearly doesn't matter how much their vote will count as a percentage of the vote or how likely their vote is to decide something. In fact, it could be argued that people are more likely to vote, the more useless their vote is.

People are most likely to vote in Presidential General Elections when the results are usually pretty far apart in their state. In those type of elections, the voters are just voting for members of the Electoral College, who are not obligated to vote a certain way. People are least likely to vote in close local elections when their voters are worth the most.

 

[Draco33]

I got my dad to give a shout out on the MO live stream! lol
Also got him and my sister to vote for the Paul slate.

 

[thatpeculiarcat]

Fucking 0 delegates

Ouch

 

[Massachusetts]

So what was the final delegate count?

 

[KMX]

How did we not get anything?

 

[seawolf]

Losing Washington and now Missouri really places Ron Paul's nomination at the GOP Convention in Tampa in serious doubt.

So far I hear only Iowa, Minnesota and Maine are reasonably assured to vote for nominating Ron. If we won Louisiana today, with all of the brutal tactics displayed by the Louisiana Party Hacks, that would be four States in our column.

But where are we going to get the fifth State with a plurality of delegates to vote for Paul now that it is painfully obvious that the Santorum and Gingrich delegates are voting for Romney in all the remaining Conventions.

Things look grim on this Saturday night!!!

 

[thatpeculiarcat]

Losing Washington and now Missouri really places Ron Paul's nomination at the GOP Convention in Tampa in serious doubt.

So far I hear only Iowa, Minnesota and Maine are reasonably assured to vote for nominating Ron. If we won Louisiana today, with all of the brutal tactics displayed by the Louisiana Party Hacks, that would be four States in our column.

But where are we going to get the fifth State with a plurality of delegates to vote for Paul now that it is painfully obvious that the Santorum and Gingrich delegates are voting for Romney in all the remaining Conventions.

Things look grim on this Saturday night!!!

Montana or South Dakota is all I'm thinking of right now that could get us to at least 5.

 

[trey4sports]

So what was the final delegate count?

i believe it was 19 romney and 6 santorum. again that is just off the top of my head.

How did we not get anything?

there were two slates voted on. One was 19/6 romney and santorum and the other was 16/9 paul to santorum. unfortunately santorum folks voted with romney rather than us (for the most part.)

it was roughly 750 delegates for paul, probably 850 for Mitt and roughly 400 for santorum and or undecided. i believe the total amount of delegates seated was 1,994.

We ended up losing every single damn vote. From chair to slate.... i left at lunch (all that was left was the platform and frankly, i don't give a shit about the platform.)

it was discouraging but it was uplifting at the same time because we weren't that far off from victory.

 

[Badger Paul]

I think the rule is you need a majority of five states at the convention signing petitions to have a candidate placed in nomination regardless of whether they are bound or not bound to a certain candidate. They tried that four years ago with far fewer delegates and control of no states at all. Thus a Nevada could be added to that total even though their delegates are bound to Romney. Virgin Islands the same thing.

 

[Keith and stuff]

I think the rule is you need a majority of five states at the convention signing petitions to have a candidate placed in nomination regardless of whether they are bound or not bound to a certain candidate. They tried that four years ago with far fewer delegates and control of no states at all. Thus a Nevada could be added to that total even though their delegates are bound to Romney. Virgin Islands the same thing.

I wouldn't count on the VI. I think you are confused about what happened in the VI. Even Wikipedia is an OK source for that. VI is 5 Romney and 1 Paul delegate. Maybe MA could depending on how things go there if you are correct.