"Mission Diversity" and the decline of NASA - A Federal Space Oydessy

[Dunedain]

Dont assume malice when it can be explained by ineptness.

I don't assume malice. The whole problem with "enforced diversity" is the eptness it causes.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Dunedain is there anything in this world that you can't blame on non-white people? Your threads are just getting tiresome to be honest.

We get it, white people are smart - everyone else is stupid. Can we move on now?

BTW you will be a minority by 2050... just an FYI.

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

^

I chuckled.

Dunedain, you posted a very good article on the decline of NASA and Space Travel, but it seems you only did so to ignite a race war.

 

[DjLoTi]

That's the thing about posts on the forums - they never really go away

 

[Dunedain]

Your threads are just getting tiresome to be honest.

Then why don't you go somewhere you enjoy being? How about a forum specifically for blacks where they love affirmative action and enforce diversity programs? Here, I'll get your jacket...

http://www.destee.com/

 

[Dunedain]

Dunedain, you posted a very good article on the decline of NASA and Space Travel, but it seems you only did so to ignite a race war.

The point is to talk about the federal government wasteful spending on skin color, not trade insults. BlackTerrel pretty much follows me around wherever I go like gollum.

Ahem, back to the subject....

Janice became an astronaut with NASA at the Johnson Space Center in July 1991, because of NASA’s affirmative action program. She has since logged over 438 hours in space. She describes the NASA equal employment opportunity policy: "Under NASA’s developing equal opportunity and diversity policies, all hiring and advancement decisions are based on individual qualifications and merit, but recruitment and development programs are structured such that high-quality candidates are available to help achieve a representative workforce."

http://www.dol.gov/ofccp/regs/compliance/aa.htm

 

[Dunedain]

Here is the new handpick Obama nominee to enforce diversity at NASA and possibly even oversee some of the other important activities. I assume he will not see it in his best interest to make any major changes to "Mission Diversity". I wonder what criteria was used to vet him?

http://www.space.com/news/090523-bolden-nasachief.html

 

[Dunedain]

NASA explains the three different types of anti-white racism at NASA

- Equal Opportunity
- Affirmative Action
- Diversity

It sure gets confusing keeping all the anti-white racism straight. Luckily, the federal government is with us to guide us through the process.

EXPLAINING RACISM AT NASA.
http://diversity.gsfc.nasa.gov/Documents/BusCaseDialogue.pdf

 

[pacelli]

I think NASA's main problem is that they have always been a cover-up group of bumbling idiots crawling on the ground to pacify the public, and shift attention away from the real space program & technologies that are employed by the US air force.

 

[Dunedain]

I think NASA's main problem is that they [...] shift attention away from the real space program & technologies that are employed by the US air force.

Maybe lately...only since all this diversity nonsense started. Isaac Newton stopped driving NASA and now it is driven by communism.

In the 60s and 70s NASA was the leader in space exploration. They played golf on the moon by hitching a ride on a tin can. We can't get back to the moon even with all the technological advancement since then.

Ain't federally enforced diversity programs great?

 

[erowe1]

Dunedain is there anything in this world that you can't blame on non-white people? Your threads are just getting tiresome to be honest.

We get it, white people are smart - everyone else is stupid. Can we move on now?

BTW you will be a minority by 2050... just an FYI.

What you have to understand is that just as we have discussions here from time to time about how to get the word out about this or that issue that's important to Ron Paul supporters, and what other websites are places where we are likely to find people who are ripe for the message, the white nationalist forums have similar discussions, and websites for Ron Paul supporters are among the places they think they're liable to get converts.

So when you see someone who looks like he's on a mission here, it's quite possible that he is.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Here is the new handpick Obama nominee to enforce diversity at NASA and possibly even oversee some of the other important activities. I assume he will not see it in his best interest to make any major changes to "Mission Diversity". I wonder what criteria was used to vet him?

http://www.space.com/news/090523-bolden-nasachief.html

Do you question the qualifications of any white candidates or just minorities? You do seem to be putting a lot of emphasis on the race issue. I am curious as to if you could answer a couple of questions for me. What are the qualifications which this person has that would make him a poor choice for the job? What better qualified candidate was declined the job and why? Which qualifications did this second person have which would have made him a better choice? You imply that he was a bad choice- wondering on what you are basing that on. Other than his skin color.

 

[Flash]

Maybe lately...only since all this diversity nonsense started. Isaac Newton stopped driving NASA and now it is driven by communism.

In the 60s and 70s NASA was the leader in space exploration. They played golf on the moon by hitching a ride on a tin can. We can't get back to the moon even with all the technological advancement since then.

Ain't federally enforced diversity programs great?

More reasons to privatize NASA.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Here is the new handpick Obama nominee to enforce diversity at NASA and possibly even oversee some of the other important activities. I assume he will not see it in his best interest to make any major changes to "Mission Diversity". I wonder what criteria was used to vet him?

http://www.space.com/news/090523-bolden-nasachief.html

Dude... what do you know about this guy to insult him? You are obsessed and it is not healthy.

Oh no - a black head of NASA - how terrible

 

[BlackTerrel]

What you have to understand is that just as we have discussions here from time to time about how to get the word out about this or that issue that's important to Ron Paul supporters, and what other websites are places where we are likely to find people who are ripe for the message, the white nationalist forums have similar discussions, and websites for Ron Paul supporters are among the places they think they're liable to get converts.

So when you see someone who looks like he's on a mission here, it's quite possible that he is.

I have no doubt. He already stated that Ron Paul isn't his first choice for President.

He prefers Trafficant because he is anti-Israel and will stop Mexicans from immigrating here.

 

[Weyland]

Do you question the qualifications of any white candidates or just minorities? You do seem to be putting a lot of emphasis on the race issue. I am curious as to if you could answer a couple of questions for me. What are the qualifications which this person has that would make him a poor choice for the job? What better qualified candidate was declined the job and why? Which qualifications did this second person have which would have made him a better choice? You imply that he was a bad choice- wondering on what you are basing that on. Other than his skin color.

He's not saying he was a bad choice based upon his skin color. He's saying the Obama administration probably determined that he was a good choice based upon his skin color. There's a big difference. This is the whole point of the discussion, choosing people based upon their race rather than upon their qualifications.

Many of us have suffered the difficulties of a work environment hobbled by diverting priorities from the work being done toward attempting to make multiculturalism work. We should not have to be worried about this issue, yet many whites have been unfairly displaced because of their race, and they know it. They don't want to bring it up because they will be attacked as racists themselves, though ironically, it is they who are the victims of racism.

Most of us have seen the film Apollo13, and we remember the intense brainstorming that went on desperately trying to improvise methods to get those astronauts home alive. Now imagine this happening today with affirmative action programs in place. There are certainly blacks out there who are smart enough to be on that team, there's no doubting this, but perhaps none of those people applied for the NASA job. Maybe they were in medical school instead. The problem is, government policy demands that a certain number of blacks must be hired regardless of qualifications. As a result of this policy, you have a less than optimal group at work trying to solve this problem. And what should happen if the black member (who was hired because he was black) has an idea which the rest of the group decide will not work? He might very well get upset and claim the others are being racist against him, and everyone will start worrying about offending their co-workers rather than optimally solving the task at hand. Those three astronauts would probably not make it home alive.

Affirmative action and diversity programs are a glaring example of why multiculturalism simply does not work. Inequality is a bad thing, and so is enforced equality. No two people are exactly the same, so how could you expect to cause two diverse groups to be the same by diktat? Gasoline has value and so does fire, but this does not mean mixing them together will just happen without incident.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Most of us have seen the film Apollo13, and we remember the intense brainstorming that went on desperately trying to improvise methods to get those astronauts home alive. Now imagine this happening today with affirmative action programs in place. There are certainly blacks out there who are smart enough to be on that team, there's no doubting this, but perhaps none of those people applied for the NASA job. Maybe they were in medical school instead. The problem is, government policy demands that a certain number of blacks must be hired regardless of qualifications. As a result of this policy, you have a less than optimal group at work trying to solve this problem. And what should happen if the black member (who was hired because he was black) has an idea which the rest of the group decide will not work? He might very well get upset and claim the others are being racist against him, and everyone will start worrying about offending their co-workers rather than optimally solving the task at hand. Those three astronauts would probably not make it home alive.

Unfortunately you seem to be saying that non- whites cannot do the job as well as whites can either- that they only got their jobs because of their race. That having minorities arround is a negative and disruptive force. Appoligies if I am misunderstanding you.

 

[Dieseler]

Unfortunately you seem to be saying that non- whites cannot do the job as well as whites can either- that they only got their jobs because of their race. That having minorities arround is a negative and disruptive force. Appoligies if I am misunderstanding you.

I guess the Government feels the same way.
Lol.
If they didn't then people wouldn't feel the need to point it out.
Does the situation not exist?
C'mon Man!

 

[MelissaWV]

Unfortunately you seem to be saying that non- whites cannot do the job as well as whites can either- that they only got their jobs because of their race. That having minorities arround is a negative and disruptive force. Appoligies if I am misunderstanding you.

Despite the indelicate way in which some people are going about it, which makes me suspect their ultimate motives... I think what's being said is that Affirmative Action fosters a really bad work environment. It puts value on skin color where it's not an asset, and shouldn't be a liability. It also can cause some workers to think other workers were hired purely because of skin color, or gender, or whatever else... and doubt that worker's abilities. It's a bad deal all around.

If everyone involved in a hazardous situation respects one another, regardless of color, and knows everyone dealing with the situation is qualified and was hired because they are the absolute best that was available to hire at the time, then things are more likely to run smoothly and lead to a positive outcome.

I don't think it's the minorities that are the destructive force in these scenarios. It's AA and the preconceptions that it brings with it.

 

[Flash]

I do think its rather odd this new NASA chief that Obama handpicked was based soley on his experience alone. Out of all the astronauts it was the black guy that was most qualified?