Minnesota State Convention was rigged

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I just got back from the Minnesota State Convention and I've never experienced a bigger screw over.

First, they made Ron Paul speak outside the convention in a Park. They wouldn't let him inside even though he came all the way from Texas.

Secondly, going into the convention, there were 14 delegates and 14 alternate slots up for grabs. Anyone who wanted to run for the positions were required to meet with a nominee committee the day before. Hundreds of people met with the committee spending 3+ hours in line to be interviewed. Many people traveled to Rochester Minnesota from hundreds of miles away. The Ron Paul forces had their slate of 14 delegates and 14 alternates to vote for.

Now, when it came time to vote for the 14 delegates and alternate slots, The committee filtered the names on the ballot to mostly John McCain supporters. Only 3 names on the ballot were Ron Paul supporters. Nobody knew that the committee was going to filter names and prevent people for voting for them. So basically the Ron Paul slate was 95% ineligible.

To make it worse, in the rules that were stealthy adopted prior, one rule did not allow nominations from the floor. This mean't we could not write in names on the ballot. Also our ballots were ineligible if we did not vote for exactly 14 people. So in essence, we were forced to vote McCain delegates to the convention.

There was an uproar by the Paul forces when this occured. The convention at one point was getting out of hand when there were 50+ people waiting at the microphones to speak wondering why we couldn't write people in. Everyone was clearly anger at this bullshit. This was clearly not democratic, but more like Iran where their Supreme Council cherry picks candidates for their national elections.

I am dumb founded they would not allow us to even write names in for the delegate slots. They were clearly trying to prevent Paul from winning any delegates.

Ron Carey, the Minnesota GOP Chairman, obviously cherry picked his slate of McCain supporters that would be elected. The chairman is not impartial to the campaigns, but is actively working against Ron Paul.

We will need your support up here in Minnesota this September. This action by the GOP must be countered with our demonstrations during the national convention.
 
Being in the minority sucks doesn't it? Funny how every poll, tv show, caucus, primary, voting machine, and convention is rigged.

You think that the problem is is that Ron Paul's people don't run the show and are in the minority and are not making the rules instead the world being against Paul?

If you don't like the cable news outlets why don't the Ron Paul folks raise another 35 million and create a professional 24/7 internet news network? If the market likes it, in a few years the Liberty News Network could be on cable stations across the country.
 
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I don't know why people act so shocked when this happens. This is why Ron can not win the election they will just bend the rules to prevent it. This was expected in Min. because this is where the National COnvention will be. How embaressing would it be if Min. elected a majority of Ron Paul Delegates to the convention, the state party could not let that happen.
 
Well, this wasn't Nevada, where a supermajority of 2/3 could have untied the rules and started from scratch. Hopefully witnessing the large number of disenfranchised new Republicans made an impression on some of the fence sitters.

The next round will be the internal party elections. The RNC won't be babysitting Minnesota then.
 
This is why it is imperative to continue to fight from the local level. I hope people will take note of their need and willingness to manipulate.
 
I just hope they're not able to give Norm the endorsement. Now that would be grand, wouldn't it?
 
I just got back from the Minnesota State Convention and I've never experienced a bigger screw over.

First, they made Ron Paul speak outside the convention in a Park. They wouldn't let him inside even though he came all the way from Texas.

Secondly, going into the convention, there were 14 delegates and 14 alternate slots up for grabs. Anyone who wanted to run for the positions were required to meet with a nominee committee the day before. Hundreds of people met with the committee spending 3+ hours in line to be interviewed. Many people traveled to Rochester Minnesota from hundreds of miles away. The Ron Paul forces had their slate of 14 delegates and 14 alternates to vote for.

Now, when it came time to vote for the 14 delegates and alternate slots, The committee filtered the names on the ballot to mostly John McCain supporters. Only 3 names on the ballot were Ron Paul supporters. Nobody knew that the committee was going to filter names and prevent people for voting for them. So basically the Ron Paul slate was 95% ineligible.

To make it worse, in the rules that were stealthy adopted prior, one rule did not allow nominations from the floor. This mean't we could not write in names on the ballot. Also our ballots were ineligible if we did not vote for exactly 14 people. So in essence, we were forced to vote McCain delegates to the convention.

There was an uproar by the Paul forces when this occured. The convention at one point was getting out of hand when there were 50+ people waiting at the microphones to speak wondering why we couldn't write people in. Everyone was clearly anger at this bullshit. This was clearly not democratic, but more like Iran where their Supreme Council cherry picks candidates for their national elections.

I am dumb founded they would not allow us to even write names in for the delegate slots. They were clearly trying to prevent Paul from winning any delegates.

Ron Carey, the Minnesota GOP Chairman, obviously cherry picked his slate of McCain supporters that would be elected. The chairman is not impartial to the campaigns, but is actively working against Ron Paul.

We will need your support up here in Minnesota this September. This action by the GOP must be countered with our demonstrations during the national convention.

Sounds like your convention chairman got the exact same memo that ours did here in GA. They pulled the exact same crap.:mad::mad:
 
This is shocking.

I am absolutely stunned that the GOP would continue to marginalize us Ron Paul supporters....


Barr '08
 
I just hope they're not able to give Norm the endorsement. Now that would be grand, wouldn't it?

They didn't even really hold a vote for that. Just did a verbal "aye" by the crowd, while people were yelling no. It was more of a ceremony. The committee didn't give a crap how they voted.
 
Down in GA we had a resolution where it was OBVIOUS that the nays had won, but apparently the "chairman" heard otherwise...Talk about rigged.
 
If they were going to railroad the vote and make parliamentary procedure irrelevant, I'm glad to hear things got vocal in there. The rest of the people need to be walking out asking "What kind of party *IS* this?"
 
Yes, that is the ONLY comfort. But then you start wondering if they really have consciences....
 
If they were going to railroad the vote and make parliamentary procedure irrelevant, I'm glad to hear things got vocal in there. The rest of the people need to be walking out asking "What kind of party *IS* this?"

The kind of party that thinks the ends justify the ends. We have to be better than them!
 
They didn't even really hold a vote for that. Just did a verbal "aye" by the crowd, while people were yelling no. It was more of a ceremony. The committee didn't give a crap how they voted.

:o

Wow...

Thanks for standing up for us and bringing the report
 
First, they made Ron Paul speak outside the convention in a Park. They wouldn't let him inside...

So. they actually turned him away at the door? Seriously?

I wish the MN GOP a hearty Deadwood mornin' greetin'.

This is shocking.

I am absolutely stunned that the GOP would continue to marginalize us Ron Paul supporters....

WTF are they so afraid of?!
 
This is why it is imperative to continue to fight from the local level. I hope people will take note of their need and willingness to manipulate.

Ha! I say to hell with that! People fought locally, got elected to the state convention... only to be treated like pure shit.

The Republican Party establishment can go to hell, there's no way I'm going to help out their party for the shit they do.
 
Why not go stealth?

Tell them we support killing the unborn.

Tell them we support killing hundreds of thousands of people around the globe, using lies and deceit.

Tell them we support an economy based upon useless paper.

Then we would fit in with the rest of the crowd... and maybe pick up some delegates for Dr. Paul...
 
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