Mind-Blowing: The Evidence of a Wider Plot in the Tsarnaev Trial

So now the argument is over what the penalty should be. Millions of dollars will be spent and months of time taken up. And the penalty phase will cost more in addition to that. Your tax dollars at work.
 
Zippyjuan said:
So now the argument is over what the penalty should be. Millions of dollars will be spent and months of time taken up. And the penalty phase will cost more in addition to that. Your tax dollars at work.
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I never thought for an instant that the trial would be anything other than what you have described.
 
Zippyjuan said:
So now the argument is over what the penalty should be. Millions of dollars will be spent and months of time taken up. And the penalty phase will cost more in addition to that. Your tax dollars at work.
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They don't care about the money, if they did they wouldn't have outlined and "fed" all of the plots.
 
James_Madison_Lives said:
If you mean fraud like it involved more people, yes. If you mean fraud like it did happen, that is stupid. Which definition of fraud are you using?
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So you are only a minor conspiracy theorist then? The major conspiracy theorists think the whole thing never happened.

I guess sorta nutty is better than full on crazy...
 
69360 said:
So you are only a minor conspiracy theorist then? The major conspiracy theorists think the whole thing never happened.

I guess sorta nutty is better than full on crazy...
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You don't believe that there was prior knowledge, by our government, of the oldest Tsaraev brother's radicalization?
 
phill4paul said:
You don't believe that there was prior knowledge, by our government, of the oldest Tsaraev brother's radicalization?
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If the government did have knowledge of his "prior radicalization" what should have they done about it? Does that make the government duplicitous in the events if they knew he was a radical? Should we arrest everybody who might be a radical to save us from what they "might" do in the future? Should we track every person the government thinks might be a radical every minute of every day?
 
dillo said:
Well if they are truly being framed, than there lawyers would have to be part of it as well right?
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No. Your job as defense attorney isn't to get to the truth. It's to get your client off. If the strategy is to blame the older brother then that's your strategy. Also you are ignoring the possibility (likelihood actually) that he was set up as a patsy. Please consider this pattern:

 
Zippyjuan said:
If the government did have knowledge of his "prior radicalization" what should have they done about it? Does that make the government duplicitous in the events if they knew he was a radical? Should we arrest everybody who might be a radical to save us from what they "might" do in the future? Should we track every person the government thinks might be a radical every minute of every day?
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If the CIA asks you to put him on a terrorist watch list then maybe you could. If the FSB tells you to watch him maybe you should. Maybe you don't let him fly back and forth to Chechnya.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...02b43c-ad10-11e2-a8b9-2a63d75b5459_story.html
The CIA’s request came months after the FBI had closed a preliminary inquiry into Tsarnaev after getting a similar warning from Russian state security, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter.

The disclosure of the CIA’s involvement suggests that the U.S. government may have had more reason than it has previously acknowledged to scrutinize Tsarnaev in the months leading up to the bombing in Boston. It also raises questions why U.S. authorities didn’t flag his return to the United States and investigate him further after a seven-month trip he took to Russia last year.
 
Zippyjuan said:
If the government did have knowledge of his "prior radicalization" what should have they done about it? Does that make the government duplicitous in the events if they knew he was a radical? Should we arrest everybody who might be a radical to save us from what they "might" do in the future? Should we track every person the government thinks might be a radical every minute of every day?
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Kinda thought that this very thing was what the FBI is in the business of. From all appearances they suck at it on an epic scale. Now let's take that word you used. "Duplicitous." It means deceitful. Yes, our government is deceitful. Was it being deceitful during the run-up to the war in Iraq? Has it been deceitful in saying that bin Laden was the mastermind and played a major role in the Twin Towers attack?
 
There is no such thing as a "conspiracy theorist." The two nouns don't even go together. It's like say "tree theorist" or "magazine theorist."
 
And for further clarity: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31727243

Boston bombing trial: Tsarnaev lawyer admits his guilt

The trial of the man accused of bombing the Boston Marathon two years ago has begun, with his defence lawyer telling the jury he committed the crime.

"It was him," the lawyer said as she prepared to defend Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's actions by saying he had been influenced by his older brother.

Mr Tsarnaev, 21, could face the death penalty and is charged with more than 30 counts relating to the bombings.

It was the deadliest terror attack on US soil since 9/11.

Three people, including an eight-year-old boy, were killed after two pressure cooker bombs packed with nails, ball bearings and other shrapnel detonated in April 2013. More than 260 people were injured, with many losing limbs.

In 2013, Mr Tsarnaev pleaded not guilty to all charges, including one related to the killing of a police officer in the days after the bombing.

The admission marks the beginning of the defence team's strategy, which is to place blame for the bombings on the defendant's older brother Tamerlan, who was killed by police.

"The evidence will not establish and we will not argue that Tamerlan put a gun to Dzhokhar's head or that he forced him to join in the plan," Ms Clark told the court, "but you will hear evidence about the kind of influence that his older brother had."
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More at link. Your article is from 2013. This is March 4th when the trial started.
 
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Zippyjuan said:
And for further clarity: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31727243


More at link. Your article is from 2013. This is March 4th when the trial started.
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1) It's called trial strategy. The job of a defense lawyer is not to get to get to the truth. It's to get your client off. This lawyer is trying the "blame the brother" strategy.

2) The thread title is "Evidence of a larger plot." You are aware that in the 1993 WTC bombing a government informant built the bomb that killed 7 people. The other people in the plot were patsies.
 
jmdrake said:
1) It's called trial strategy. The job of a defense lawyer is not to get to get to the truth. It's to get your client off. This lawyer is trying the "blame the brother" strategy.

2) The thread title is "Evidence of a larger plot." You are aware that in the 1993 WTC bombing a government informant built the bomb that killed 7 people. The other people in the plot were patsies.
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"Not my fault" defense. I helped make and place those bombs which injured and killed people but it wasn't my fault. Don't blame me.
 
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