Mike Pence Wins "Values Voters" 2010 Presidential Straw Poll

Pence is better on economic issues than all the other Republicans. He voted against the Medicare Prescription Drug bill, No Child Left Behind, and all the bailouts.
 
He's a neocon. He voted for expanding economic war with Iran and for the cybersecurity act. He's george bush from Indiana.
 
What are the full numbers and where did Ron Paul place? And why didn't Ron Paul go, or why did he not organize others to go there?
 
What are the full numbers and where did Ron Paul place? And why didn't Ron Paul go, or why did he not organize others to go there?

The ones running to impose morality tend to win there, which is never going to be Ron, regardless of their 'respect' for him. People discussed whether to organize and decided it had never really been seen as a precursor to the elections the same way CPAC is, for example.
 
The ones running to impose morality tend to win there, which is never going to be Ron, regardless of their 'respect' for him. People discussed whether to organize and decided it had never really been seen as a precursor to the elections the same way CPAC is, for example.

I'm sure he knows what he is doing. What I fear is that the media is going to start promoting Pence as a tea party candidate.
 
I'm sure he knows what he is doing. What I fear is that the media is going to start promoting Pence as a tea party candidate.

Probably.

Have you seen the age of some of those guys in DC calling themselves 'young guns'?

Marketing and reality are often at odds.
 
Probably.

Have you seen the age of some of those guys in DC calling themselves 'young guns'?

Marketing and reality are often at odds.

The media is looking for another candidate, because at this time, the only sure GOP candidates I see are Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, and Tim Pawlenty. If those are the three front-runners, then Ron Paul becomes very dangerous to the establishment, and easily the top tea party candidate.
 
Pence is better on economic issues than all the other Republicans. He voted against the Medicare Prescription Drug bill, No Child Left Behind, and all the bailouts.

He did vote for Bush's first bailout, the one with the $600 welfare check that was given out to everyone in the form of a tax credit. But that one was admittedly less eggregious than the ones that came after that. You're right that he's overall more consistent fiscally than most Republicans, if we want to set the bar that low.

I'm not a fan, especially on foreign policy. He recently gave a speech or made a press release or something (I forget exactly what it was) where he insisted on no bailouts for foreign countries. Not long after that he voted for more foreign aid for Israel. He also gave this interview to the Christian Broadcasting Network where he says that the US Federal government needs to be committed to help Israel in any way that the government of Israel demands, effectively putting American taxpayers at the mercy of a foreign government that we didn't elect.
http://www.themajlis.org/2010/02/04/rep-mike-pence-israel-should-dictate-us-policy
 
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Full Results:

Full results of the straw poll (presidential preference):

Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind. (24%)

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (22%)

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney (13%)

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (10%)

Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (7%)

Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum (5%)

Sen. Jim DeMint (5%)

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (2%)

Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels (2%)

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (2%)

Sen. John Thune, R-S.D. (2%)

Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell - 1 percent

Former Florida House Speaker Marco Rubio (1%)

Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Il. (1%A)

Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour (1%)

Rep. Ron Paul, R-Tex. (1%)

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (less than 1%)

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/20...poll-results-mike-pence-comes-out-on-top.html
 
Pence is definitely up at the top of my list, behind the obvoius (Ron, Schiff, the Judge) and just behind DeMint and Coburn. We could definitely do a lot worst, and lumping everyone who isn't perfect as a "neocon" gets us nowhere and diminishes the meaning of the word. People are allowed to be just Conservatives, somewhere between Libertarian and Neocon.
 
We could definitely do a lot worst, and lumping everyone who isn't perfect as a "neocon" gets us nowhere and diminishes the meaning of the word.

Do you think Pence is not a neocon? If so, what do you base that on?
 
I live in Pence's district.

IMHO he's planning on running for Prez in '12.

It's going to be fun watching him and Mitch Daniels (current Indiana governor who *also* has White House ambitions) jockey for position with the Indiana voters starting in January of next year, ha!
 
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