Mike Huckabee Sees Ron Paul as a threat

[beermotor]

It doesn't matter as long as he doesn't force his beliefs on anyone else.

That's the problem with him. Haven't seen any indication that he's good for that - Paul, you know he won't, but the Huckster ... it's an unknown.

Why vote for an unknown? Write in Paul.

 

[Freedom]

I'm glad Huckabee is the one 2nd tier guy making it besides us. He seems like at least a decent person unlike all the others

As they say, looks can be deceiving. I met a political consultant who had worked for several of the current candidates. I was told that Huckabee was the biggest phony of all of them. Apperently, he is very polished and charming to the TV but a real devil behind the scenes.

In the opinion of the political consultant, who were the most decent? Ron Paul of course, Tancredo and Brownback.

 

[itsnobody]

Watch the video of the Colbert Interview with Mike Huckabee
http://www.comedycentral.com/mother...s/index.jhtml&ml_playlist=&lnk=&is_large=true

Huckabee says Ron Paul @2:03...but he doesn't really say he's a threat or anything like that...

 

[bc2208]

There are a lot of things I dont like about Huckabee. Namely, I cannot respect any individual who does not believe in evolution. After all my studies, I really cannot get over that

http://www.dovidgottlieb.com/Rabbi_Gottlieb_Tapes.html

Listen to the lecture on Evolution. It doesn't do much to prove creationism, but it points out a healthy number of flaws in evolution science. I thought the same at one point - but not so much anymore.

Didn't RP raise his hand at the debate when they asked who doesn't believe in evolution?

Either way, it's not a central issue.

The guy who said "I'm gonna vote for Hillary to speed up the process" - hysterical.

 

[im_a_pepper]

Sen. Sam Brownback, Gov. Mike Huckabee and Rep. Tom Tancredo all stated they do not believe in evolution,
NOT Ron Paul. Being a doctor I'm sure he has probably accepted the parallel views. Denying that shows an obstinate view of the world and in my opinion is a warning how to close-minded as a president they could be. Even the Pope has stated there is room for both, and evolution should not be dismissed.

I thought last night Colbert kind of made Huckabee look foolish (too easily actually) and Huckabee didn't do a very good job with Colbert to the point of looking uncomfortable and confrontational.

 

[1000-points-of-fright]

It doesn't do much to prove creationism, but it points out a healthy number of flaws in evolution science.

I don't care if evolution has flaws or "missing links". The fact is that Creationism (or at least young earth creationism which is most common among the rabid evangelicals trying to take over the country) puts the earth at some ridiculously young age like less than 10,000 yrs old and reshaped by the great flood.

I can accept the other versions of Creationism like Progressive and Theistic. At least they accept the geological record and some evolution.

 

[cjhowe]

Macro-evolution is the General theory of evolution. This is different from micro-evolution which is the Special theory of evolution. Both postulated by Darwin.

No one disputes micro-evolution which is small changes/variations in an organism usually in response to changes in their environment -- this is observable and proven -- as Darwin himself did on the Galapagos islands.

The dispute is with macro-evolution for which Darwin basically theorized that micro-evolution can be multiplied millions & billions of times to account for evolution from one organism to a completely different organism.
This is not observable (because in theory it happens over millions & billions of years) and unproven because the fossil record that should be in overwhelming abundance recording these macro-changes from one organism to the other just doesn't exist. The scanty fossils that exist have all been adequately explained not to be an indication of macro-evolution. This is a major problem that even secular scientists in the field of evolution agonise about.

Myself, i'd say you need faith of biblical proportions to believe in macro-evolution

You've gotta love the thumpers ignoring evidence once again. At least they're up front about their bias. Macroevolution is speciation. There are four modes of speciation: allopatric, peripatric, parapatric, and sympatric. The contributors to the wikipedia article on speciation did a pretty good job. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciation feel free to inform yourself there.

 

[Captain Shays]

LOL I laughed so hard when i saw that. Colbert almost lost it too

I'm glad Huckabee is the one 2nd tier guy making it besides us. He seems like at least a decent person unlike all the others

I tend to agree with the deadhead. Not because I'm a deadhead too, but because Huck is a decent guy. What I don't like about him is him attempting to steal Ron Paul's thunder and I don't think its be accident. Michael Medved had been pushing Huckabee hard on his show and continues to berate Paul.
My take is that the RNC is trying to get one of the other second tier guys to knock out RP to diminish the threat he poses to their agenda. Yeah, call me a conspiracy nut but I think its just strategy on their part.
Think about this. There is no way the Rep war monger/Israel protectorate USA taking the place of God crowd is going to support RP even if he wins the primaries.
It would be so much of a reversal, so much of an awakening their heads would explode from the input of truth, and honesty. They would have to admit so many wrongs. So many ill concieved tactics. So many lies it would completely demolish all they worked for in the past 25 yers.
Their whole Reaganesque "peace through strength" code for 140 forward deployments, intervening in the affairs of other countries, overthrowing governments and bombing the crap out of central bank detracters would be revealed as not only unconstitutional, but detrimental to our national security.
We were sold out by Republicans with SALT I's establishment of Mutual Assured Destruction by precluding us from installing extensive cival defense shelters and a missile defense system that would enable the majority of US citizens to actually survive a nuclear exchange like what Switzerland has been doing for the past 30 yrs. (Our founding fathers designed our style of defense and foreign policy with the Swiss as a model and considered Switzerland our "sister nation").

When something political, or geopolitical or a policy doesn't make any sense (look up mom's dress for bombs to protect us from terrorism but leave our borders wide open), look through the lens of the New World Order and it all comes into clear focus.
The Military industrial complex has too much to lose to allow RP an win in the elections. If by some chance or by the hand of God Himself RP, you and me succeed then "they" will try to off him. That's when I would be willing to take the bullet for RP.

Huckabee's rise is no accident in my humble opinion. He's a nice guy, but his policies have been altered. In the first three debates, he didn't even mention the Constitution. He also seemed more like a war hawk in those other debates. In the past debate, where he rose to a higher prominance, he did mention the Constitution and also said that we shouldn't be policing the world taking the RP position and it worked well and threw RP off his game a little.

"If we were merely dealing with the law of averages, half of the events affecting our nation's well-being should be good for America. If we were dealing with mere incompetence, our leaders should occasionally make a mistake in our favor. We . . . are not dealing with coincidence or stupidity, but with planning and brilliance."
--Gary Allen, from his book None Dare Call It Conspiracy

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." --Franklin D. Roosevelt

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
-- Leading Nazi leader, Hermann Goering, at the Nuremberg Trials before he was sentenced to death


Who knows though? Maybe Huckabee is starting to run for RP's VP running mate.

 

[cottonmouth]

looks like Gomer

Agreed, he creeps me out. Anyone else notice the resemblance to 24 villain Charles Logan?

When he smiles he looks just like Gomer Pyle. Sounds like him too.

 

[cottonmouth]

http://www.dovidgottlieb.com/Rabbi_Gottlieb_Tapes.html



Didn't RP raise his hand at the debate when they asked who doesn't believe in evolution?

NO, NO, NO. Huckabee, Brownback, Tancredo.

 

[Dary]

If Hucky were such a decent guy, he would respect state's rights and support the idea of ending raids on the sick and dying.

But he won’t.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtprTFgcdAI

Next!

 

[Pistis]

You've gotta love the thumpers ignoring evidence once again. At least they're up front about their bias. Macroevolution is speciation. There are four modes of speciation: allopatric, peripatric, parapatric, and sympatric. The contributors to the wikipedia article on speciation did a pretty good job. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciation feel free to inform yourself there.

No, Macro-evolution is NOT speciation. I'd love to know where you got this information because the link you cite does not claim this.

Speciation is observable and proven -- in fact, it can happen rapidly in some species (within years), especially in the allopatric kind (this doesn't help Macro-evolution btw).
Speciation does not produce NEW genetic information (and so is non-evolutionary by definition), however, Macro-evolution necessarily must.

I'll be happy for you to show me where speciation produces new genetic information in the biosphere. You'll probably be the first to find such an example and i'll hand you that Nobel prize myself

 

[Captain Shays]

well! that video did it for me as far as huckabee is concerned. he was a preacher right? i personally would like to ask him if he believes God is all knowing, sovereign and all wise. if he answeres yes, then i will ask him who made marijuana? if he acknowledges that God made it, then he must acknowledge that He knew before hand that some would use it one way and others another way but the fact is, if God is sovereign, all knowing and all wise and He knew how people would use it, and He made our bodies to be affected by the properties in marijuana, and MADE IT LIKE THAT ANYWAY.
in genesis it says that God made all the plants for our food and it was good. He said there was only one plant that we could not touch--the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. does Huckabee believe that marijuana is that tree? if yes, then magic mushrooms are not and fall under "it is good".

In Romans 14 it says that its not what goes into our bodies that defile it but what comes out. that we can even eat meat that is sacrificed to idols. that "happy is he who condemns not himself in what he aproves".

raid that house Huckebee! Off those pot smoking cancer patients for breaking the laws of men while violating none of God's laws.

I'm done with Huck. I will now work to reveal him as the hypocrite that he is. Every time he mentions the Constitution as if he reveres it I will remember this.

 

[ButchHowdy]

How does one get over the Elmer Fudd thing?!?

 

[Tuck]

Huckabee isn't my ideal president but I still think he would be better than any of the democrats. I'll give him credit for making the fair tax idea more mainstream, one of my biggest reasons for supporting RP is for the elimination of the irs/income tax.

 

[johnrocks]

I used to respect Huckabee until last week when I saw him on a cable news network and when asked about the democrats cut and run strategy he replied something to the effect that "we have one on our side that blames America too" type reply. I wanted to jump through that t.v. and wring his neck!

 

[ARealConservative]

Huckabee isn't my ideal president but I still think he would be better than any of the democrats. I'll give him credit for making the fair tax idea more mainstream, one of my biggest reasons for supporting RP is for the elimination of the irs/income tax.

Huck will give us the fair tax on top of the current tax code.

I have never heard for him to repeal the 16th amendment.

 

[ThePieSwindler]

lol@arguing religion vs science on the interbuttz. Flame wars always result.

Evolution happens, that doesn't mean God doesn't exist. I mean, had God just created a system where everything was already fully formed, life would probably have already become extinct. The benefit of evolution is it allows life to survive through favorable genes. If you're a believer, this actual mechanism is simply a neutral, naturally occuring phenomenon. The 6 days in the bible use a greek word that is vague in meaning - it could be either 6 real earth days or countless millions of years. This would work well with rapid evolutionary processes such as the extinctions and randomly appearing new species in the fossil record. I'm not saying this is all true, but it still allows for God to exist and many churches and theologians have reconciled the two. The problem is evolution is usually attached to a fully naturalistic view of the universe, which is normal in science because they are only concerned with the material universe - however, many phenomena occur that science really cannot explain so it projects and answer that is always naturalistic in origin, when it is easily demonstratable that some things lay completely out of the realm of science, whose duty is to discover and observe natual phenomena, yes, but not presume that every occurance is naturalistic in origin, because many things are generally not falsifiable nor logical(meaning able to be deduced by human logic, not that they are stupid), so they fail the scientic method.

Also, where has Ron actually said he believes in evolution, and has reconciled the two? Are we just assuming this because he probably took alot of biology at Gettysburg and is a rational man overall?

 

[shadowhooch]

Huck will give us the fair tax on top of the current tax code.

I have never heard for him to repeal the 16th amendment.

No, he has publicly said (today on NPR) that he wants to do away with the IRS and replace it with the Fair Tax. At least that is his story as of today.

 

[Dary]

Rule of law and compassion

Well! that video did it for me as far as huckabee is concerned.

Me too.

Huckabee makes it seem like it would be some big deal to stop the raids. It wouldn't be a priority as if it would require some huge amount of effort on his part.

All he would have to do is say "Stop the raids", and be done with it.

God forbid that one of his family members should ever fall victim and because of his non-action, condemn them to a jail cell for their remaining days.

For a man professed to be such a devout Christian, where is the compassion?

He shows no respect for state's rights, and no respect for Republicanism or Conservativism.

This isn't about legalizing marijuana.

It's about the respect for the rule of law, and compassion towards your fellow human being.