Mike Huckabee Sees Ron Paul as a threat

[paulitics]

This guy sounds like a CFR member too judging by his record? Is he?

 

[Dustancostine]

He is not currently CFR. Doesn't mean that can't change.

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

science says global warming is true, and i dont believe in global warming, so am i against science no, i can see why he doesnt support evolution, probly trying to get the evangelical vote.

Global warming is happening. What is up for debate is the cause of it and whether we should allow government to interfere with the economy

 

[1000-points-of-fright]

There are a lot of things I dont like about Huckabee. Namely, I cannot respect any individual who does not believe in evolution. After all my studies, I really cannot get over that

Evolution is a theory. It's a good theory and the best we have so far. Could we be wrong? Maybe partially, some of the finer points might need reworking.

My problem is not so much that he doesn't believe in evolution. It's that he is a Creationist and that just flies in the face of all scientific evidence and rational thought. If there's one thing I want in a government official, it's rational thought.

 

[paulitics]

global warming is a theory with alot of holes in it. I thought it was proven until one day I picked up a basic weather book, and started finding the truth that AL Gore leaves out. Dr Grey, who is a genious when it comes to climate, thinks it is bunk.

What bothers me is the obvious agenda behind it, meanwhile they turn a blind eye to much more pressing problems like 60% of the bee population dying, which 90% of all life on this planet is dependent on.

 

[quickmike]

youtube?

Also Huck doesn't believe in evolution hard to vote for someone that does not believe in science

I think religion is about 95% bullshit, and science about 75% bullshit. Both use theoretical "laws" to come out with results skewed in their favor to get the desired results of whatever goal they are trying to attain, but science just happends to have a little more truth on its side. Scientific things are disproven every day. One scientist will tell you that milk causes cancer because he is a vegan and hates the use of animal byproducts for anything, one scientist will tell you it doesnt because he owns a dairy farm. Same thing with global warming. I dont think either side knows for sure that they are right, but they sure like to use their degrees as proof of their stance.

 

[nullvalu]

Global warming is happening. What is up for debate is the cause of it and whether we should allow government to interfere with the economy

30 years ago global cooling was happening and it was a "scientific fact" and we were going to have another ice age..

hmm.. I don't know anyone living in igloos, personally.

 

[fluoridatedbrainsoup]

Huckabee is CFR, though . . .

 

[cjhowe]

Evolution is a theory. It's a good theory and the best we have so far. Could we be wrong? Maybe partially, some of the finer points might need reworking.

My problem is not so much that he doesn't believe in evolution. It's that he is a Creationist and that just flies in the face of all scientific evidence and rational thought. If there's one thing I want in a government official, it's rational thought.

It irks me to no end how people mangle this argument. Evolution is NOT a theory. Evolution is a fact, a data point, a phenomenon. The theory is titled "The Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection". The theory is not evolution, the theory is how it occurs.

 

[nullvalu]

Scientific things are disproven every day. One scientist will tell you that milk causes cancer because he is a vegan and hates the use of animal byproducts for anything, one scientist will tell you it doesnt because he owns a dairy farm. Same thing with global warming. I dont think either side knows for sure that they are right, but they sure like to use their degrees as proof of their stance.

I'm not a regular listener to Rush, but there was nothing else on.. He did say something funny about them banning Trans Fats at the Indiana State Fair.. "In 20 years we'll find out that people are dying because trans fats are actually good for you in some way."

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

Evolution is a theory. It's a good theory and the best we have so far. Could we be wrong? Maybe partially, some of the finer points might need reworking.

My problem is not so much that he doesn't believe in evolution. It's that he is a Creationist and that just flies in the face of all scientific evidence and rational thought. If there's one thing I want in a government official, it's rational thought.

There seems to be a common misunderstanding among creationists regarding the meaning of a "theory" within the context of science. A scientific theory is not some guess but rather a framework in which all observable reality falls. Gravity is a "theory" too, but I doubt anyone is going to be jumping off any cliffs. Furthermore, the theory is not concerning whether or not evolution is occurring but HOW evolution is occuring. You cannot deny that evolution is occuring if you have any basic understanding about the kingdoms and the advancement of species on this planet. I highly doubt you'll find many biology majors who would so carelessly throw evolution out the window

 

[nullvalu]

I would rather believe God, and to find out there isnt a God, then to Not believe in God and find out there is one......
think about it :O

did you read that on one of those black billboards or something? j/k

 

[Brandybuck]

science says global warming is true

Science suggests that climate change is occuring. But the climate has been changing continuously for hundreds of millions of years.

 

[quickmike]

I would rather believe God, and to find out there isnt a God, then to Not believe in God and find out there is one......
think about it :O

Do you think if god existed he would punish you for being wrong? If a god would do that, I choose not to believe in it. Maybe 200 yrs of clipping gods toenails would be good punishment, but I dont think any just god would sentence you to eternal suffering just for being wrong.

 

[nullvalu]

Do you think if god existed he would punish you for being wrong? If a god would do that, I choose not to believe in it. Maybe 200 yrs of clipping gods toenails would be good punishment, but I dont think any just god would sentence you to eternal suffering just for being wrong.

yeah i never really understood that.. like the South Park episode of do retarded people go to hell? anyone have an answer on that one yet?

 

[cjhowe]

Ugg, That makes me angry. Legal aliens pay taxes. Legal aliens pay thousands of dollars worth of forms for paperwork. Legal aliens suffer paycuts over visa issues. Legal aliens get no benefits whatsoever. They cannot get grants or scholarships. Illegal aliens don't pay taxes, social security, medicare, or file paperwork with the INS. Yet they go to public schools, get treated as American citizens, get expedited to get green cards, get medicare... Sorry, this frustrates me. I file form after form and pay money and get nothing in return. And all these illegal immigrants are being given all the benefits I'm trying to get by breaking all the rules? Fix the Department of Homeland security, so that people can immigrate properly. Don't just let rule-breakers get off scott free.

Maybe you should stop sending in forms to government agencies that were dissolved over 4 years ago (INS).
Oh, and BTW, Illegals pay taxes, and any illegals that work for companies that pay corporate income tax will pay SS and MCARE taxes as well (otherwise the corporations can't write off the labor expense). Oh and they are not eligible for Medicare since that's a federal program that isn't emergency health care. So, don't be so frustrated.

 

[quickmike]

dont take words out of context :X i dont believe in global warming, but im saying most scientists do.

Sure global warming is happening. Its a measureable fact. The question is what is causing it? Thats debatable to me.

 

[nullvalu]

look at mt st helens, when that erupted you know how much co2 came out of it? alot, so im guessing its pretty natural, so if we go into the ice age, its just nature doing its course.

agreed.. i haven't seen any evidence to convince me this isn't just a temporary natural trend. our average temperatures have fluctuated all throughout time..

 

[akalucas]

I have my masters in biology and I do genetic research at Loma Linda University. My belief in science doesnt correlate with belief in macro evolution. Macro evolution and creationism are both theories and both have not been proven. There's nothing close to concrete evidence for macro evolution. There might be interesting facts that might suggest macro evolution but the same can be said about creationism. Real scientist keep an open mind to things that have not been proven through the scientific method. Unfortunately politics plays a part in the scientific community, just like government politics. The people that have beliefs in evolution hold the top positions in the scientific community, decide who gets funded and frown upon any research that deals with creationism. Many researches here say they believe in evolution and do research that furthers that cause because that pretty much guarantees them funds for their projects. Kind of like republicans in washingtion might be on board with the war just to secure their seat. As of right now Huckabees beliefs in creationism should not disqualify him from being a man that believes in sciences. Now, if he believes the earth is square and that the sun revolves around the earth than thats a whole other matter.

 

[nullvalu]

the earth isnt square? omg....

LIES!!!