Michigan Republicans Looking to Primary Kerry Bentivolio

Loling at all these rebels defending going along with the status quo. I think you're all late for a sign waving.
 
Yes, don't be too hard on Kerry for this. He isn't as safe back home as some others and don't forget could be primaried.
 
Occam's Banana said:
Votes for House Speaker don't really seem like a legitimate "acid test" metric to me.

It sure would've been nice to give Boehner the boot, and it would have sent a message - but ultimately, those are just "feel good" items.

Even if Boehner had been ousted, we still would have ended up with a power-peddling establishment tool in the position, anyway ("Meet the new boss, same as the old boss ...").

There are important & substantive issues to get bent out of shape over. This just isn't one of them.
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Honestly, Cantor probably would've taken the helm so you're right.
 
Michigan11 said:
This vote was strategic for Kerry.
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Definitely. He's vulnerable and this is a meaningless vote. Boehner was going to win, and if he was going to be replaced it'd probably be by Cantor who is just as bad and an Israel-firster.
 
Confederate said:
I think we should make a list of outside groups that need to contacted early on to make sure they start backing him from the beginning:

Freedom Works
Club for Growth
Chamber of Commerce
National Right to Life
NRA
GOA
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Heritage Action
National Taxpayer's Union
Americans for Prosperity
American Conservative Union
Citizens Against Government Waste
John Birch Society
Madison Project
Tea Party Express
 
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Confederate said:
Definitely. He's vulnerable and this is a meaningless vote. Boehner was going to win, and if he was going to be replaced it'd probably be by Cantor who is just as bad and an Israel-firster.
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Exactly. Watching a revolution take hold politically is a learning curve for this movement, including myself. I've learned the best thing to do, when something doesn't make sense is to sit back and watch for a bit. If our candidates were operating so clear politically, they would be much easier targets for the establishment to take out in election cycles. I'm glad they are amongst the most savvy for our benefit.
 
kathy88 said:
Loling at all these rebels defending going along with the status quo. I think you're all late for a sign waving.
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Loling at all these fucking idiots who don't have any actual fucking idea on how to keep our people in congress and instead attack candidates for doing the exact same Ron Paul did.

I support Massie and Amash and am glad they were in a position to vote how they did, but if you can't see that their seats are much safer than Bentivolio then you are a fucking moron.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee
 
Michigan11 said:
This vote was strategic for Kerry.
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Exactly. There wasn't a well planned out movement of opposition to Boehner. Everything that I have read makes it seem that this was put together at the last minute. If there was a better organized opposition to Boehner, we may have seen more people vote in opposition. But for a new Congressman to publicly go against the presumptive Speaker, just to make a stand, is pointless.

However, if Amash (who was the quarterback of the failed ousting) had gone to Kerry and told him that he had 20 people voting against Boehner, maybe his vote for have been different. Honestly, we do not know.
 
I don't see this vote as a deal breaker for Kerry. From what I've been told, he's not in the position to get anything substantiative done for the first couple years anyway. He's very green and needs to learn the ropes. Plus, the Republican establishment will be attacking him hard during his re-election.
 
sgt150 said:
I don't see this vote as a deal breaker for Kerry. From what I've been told, he's not in the position to get anything substantiative done for the first couple years anyway. He's very green and needs to learn the ropes. Plus, the Republican establishment will be attacking him hard during his re-election.
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Exactly. Kerry isn't in a safe GOP CD like Massie. Kerry needs to win the primary and the general - and it will cost a lot of cash to do so. Massie can get hit hard in the primary, but if he prevails, he will sail through in the general. Less money, less risk, easier to stick your neck out.
 
CaptLouAlbano said:
Exactly. Kerry isn't in a safe GOP CD like Massie. Kerry needs to win the primary and the general - and it will cost a lot of cash to do so. Massie can get hit hard in the primary, but if he prevails, he will sail through in the general. Less money, less risk, easier to stick your neck out.
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Plus Massie has Rand's backing for fundraising and campaigning in Kentucky.
 
Confederate said:
Plus Massie has Rand's backing for fundraising and campaigning in Kentucky.
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Right. "Hey Tom, do you need a list of big donors in your CD? Here you go."

Again, no reason for Kerry to stick his neck out. I am sure there were some other Freshmen that would have liked to oppose Boehner, but it is silly to do so unless it is going to result in something substantive. It wasn't risky for those who did openly oppose him.

I think Bachmann was a wild card as well. If you noticed she didn't vote in the first round, she only went to the floor after it was apparent that Boehner was going to win. There were a few others like that as well.
 
The lesson everyone here is missing is that we only 5-6 more liberty candidates in the House and we can direct who the speaker is. Let's get crackin people we got work to do!
 
Rep. Bentivolio was confused. Feel sorry for the freshman. Hopefully, he'll fight hard for spending cuts and freedom. The fact that he'll soon be posting an explanation like Rep. Amash is a good thing.

Being his first day he was a bit unclear on the fact that he could vote for someone that hadn't been nominated (wraps back into the previous point), he expressed that he thought the only options were between Pelosi and Boehner and he certainly wasn't going for Pelosi. When I tried to explain he could vote for anyone and that Pelosi needed a majority and not just a plurality so he would have been safe he said that he hadn't been clear on that.
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