Michelle Bachman: HORRIBLE decision by RP

Shii, Bachman is right in her accusations. Perhaps she did not go about he pronouncements in the most politically correct way, and thereby allowing herself to become a media target, but Backman's accusations are well founded in history.

I urge you to start your research into the matter by searching on "Norman Dodd," or "Rep Frank Church" or the "Reece Committee".....as all of these Congressional actions found hard evidence of anti-American activities by some of the nations largest organizations and richest individuals. Many of these same actors not only support Obama, they actually taught and cultivated him for this upcoming role.

I'm actually surprised to see RP take such a timid role in regard to these anti-american affairs. He was much more honest and aggressive in his first Presidential campaign.

I enjoy your posts itsthepathocrats. :) Here is one of my favorite Norman Dodd quotes:
"The careers of men are watched. The men who indicate they would be especially capable in terms of the aim of this group are approached queitly and invited in to the inner circles. They are watched as they carry out assignments and eventually they are drawn into it under circumstances which make it virtually impossible for them to ever get out of it. "
 
Shii,

Did you ever read Ron Paul's newsletter from back in the day?

He had very harsh words against the establishment and opponents, etc.

Just look at him in the video on Morton Downey Junior from back in the day when he was on fire, saying such things as "I say she invited it by the way she was dressed" in response to Lisa Sliwa stating one of her people (or whatever) were stabbed, I recall.

I just found that video. ROFL! That guy got OWNED!

Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88REf0tjZHo
 
Obama is a communist. The only thing he shouldn't be rhetorically attacked over is the one thing the media and his campaign will continue to suggests all criticism is about: race. That is a classic communist tactic.

Classic. Watch on YouTube Anarchy USA. It's common knowledge the leftist influence in the 60's civil rights movement, but few people talk about communist influences within the black community during and leading up to those years.

Exhibit A, Jeremiah Wright and his "Liberation Theology."

The sheer extremism of Obama is the only thing which could prompt me to even, in my darkest, weakest moments, consider voting for McCain. I can't do it, but the alternative is going to be hell to pay.

I think we should abandon the GOP on our ballots (only for president) to send the message that they can't win with candidates like McCain, but also because all the wars, assault on freedoms and fiscal violence that will be the war waged by an Obama Administration will unite Republicans against them. I am starting to wonder if the price will be worth it.

Nonetheless, Obama has this won. Be prepared and make the predictions publicly that the neocons will be trying to get Republicans to make amends with the socialism coming our way. We know why they will, but your typical Republican doesn't, will be confused and will otherwise be manipulated into supporting the coming New New Deal.

Go Ron Paul for backing up someone else with balls.
 
obama IS a subversive marxist america hater...as is his nasty white hating wife.......if minnesotans find the truth offensive...blame urselves...not ms. bachman

+1

I'm with you and her on this. To be fair, I think McCain is also part of the same system of corruption but I don't blame her for saying this. It is about time our Representatives in Congress had the balls to speak the truth rather than being so damn politically correct.

I'm donating to her right now.
 
Bachman strongly believes in telecommunications spying by the government and the war. I don't understand why she deserves monetary support just because she voted down the bailout.
 
Can't ya'll understand Ron Paul is a CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN...not a liberal democrat. She should have called him KOMRADE Obama. She is righton, Ron Paul is righton..where do I donate to her campaign? Tones

I knew nothing about her until a week or so ago.

She came off as a bat shit crazy neocon and a bit of a McCarthyite. When given a chance to correct her error, she just dug herself deeper into a hole.

I sure as HELL won't help this woman stay in congress- even if she is right on some issues, she's obviously wrong on others.

Tones, I know you're a bit of a neocon nut- so if you support her, I should probably support her opponent.

Let me know how much you send her, and I'll send her opponent 5 times that amount :)
 
Bachman strongly believes in telecommunications spying by the government and the war. I don't understand why she deserves monetary support just because she voted down the bailout.

+1000

I love fiscal conservatives, but not warmongering, anti freedom, neocon McCarthyite fiscal conservatives.

Do we have to accept despicable persons like Bachman just because they are sometimes fiscally conservative?

I don't think so.
 
The only way anyone will ever take CFL seriously is if they know they can count on their support when they vote like CFL wants them to, and if they don't then they get slammed. That's how you get things done. It's real simple.
 
Thanks for posting Knightskye. I noticed Bachmann wasn't on the first list. Hmmm....He didn't think she was good enough to be part of the Liberty PAC.... but wants help for her now because she got herself in trouble. Heck, if he wants to base EVERYTHING on the bailout now, why doesn't he just throw out a few Dem names; plenty of them voted against it too.

There is no way he would have supported her pro war/neocon rhetoric in the past. This is dissapointing as I see this as just more of the same old, same old Washington partisanship.
 
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I have to wonder about some of these Ron Paul endorsements. I have a hard time believing the man himself really wants to publicly back up some of these people like Bachman and Don Young. Are some of his underlings just out of control and issuing support in Ron Paul's name?

Another possibility is that Ron Paul has been stripped of some Congressional seniority behind the scenes by the rotten GOP, and regrettably is trying to ingratiate himself with them again without pissing us off by endorsing some of their incumbents in close races. I don't know, but it is baffling.
 
Thanks for posting Knightskye.

Welcome.

I noticed Bachmann wasn't on the first list. Hmmm....He didn't think she was good enough to be part of the Liberty PAC.... but wants help for her now because she got herself in trouble. Heck, if he wants to base EVERYTHING on the bailout now, why doesn't he just throw out a few Dem names; plenty of them voted against it too.

If he was basing everything on the bailout, he'd retract his endorsement of Don Young, who voted for it.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2008-101
 
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WTF

That's the last time i ever donate to Ron Paul, and there goes my consideration for supporting CFL. Why the hell would he support someone like this? The woman is a bitch. I hardly like Bob Conley, but I could support him, and BJ Lawson is gravy..... but this bitch? WTF RON!!!???
 
Response directly from her district coming here:

Bachmann is the superior choice in CD6 MN- that doesn't mean to imply that she's anywhere near a perfect choice.

Up until a month ago I would have gagged myself before ever stepping forward to support her. But we live in interesting times and things are evolving quickly- and as our congress goes she is now at the forefront in the 'coming around' category, and that is something we simply can't afford to lose in Washington under the upcoming Obama administration. There is going to be a whole army of Obamites in congress for the next session, and El Tinklenberg would be just one more such footsoldier. If there's anyone more difficult to bring around to the real problems facing this country than a formerly 100% neocon Republican, it is a big government Democrat- and we would lose an awful lot of recent positive development and be back to square one if we replace her with El. This support is tentative, of course, to future performance. But the reason Dr. Paul came forward with this entreaty towards our CD6 people is in large part because we asked him to do this.

It goes without saying that Ms. Bachmann is ditzy beyond belief at times and knows little in the way of a running gear in between 'the lights are out and no one is home here' and 'full forward gung ho.' It goes without saying that her remarks were incredibly intemperate in that she personalized them rather than sticking strictly to labeling the issues rather than the human being as Anti-American, which is the absolute truth. And of course she's still in the process of being brought up to speed on the fact that her party's leaders including McCain are also behind those Anti-American issues. But exactly like other MN politicians recently who are prone to exactly the same faults in the area of political self-induced suicide [insert Jesse here], with Michele you never have to wonder whether you're being 'handled' with deceptively intended rhetoric- love her or hate her you are getting the real Michele at all times. And to her credit she's caught on to her own stupidity in being led into her intemperate delivery of those remarks, and has admitted she was wrong to personalize them.

It was an interesting experience watching her evolve with grassroots influence this spring, from her first speaking gig at the local BPOU in Meeker County in late February- where she may as well have showed up dressed in a cheerleading outfit complete with pom-poms and a big 'W' on the blouse, she was selling Bush policy hard and was shocked I think to see her rhetoric nearly send the group into fistfights between the Liberty group and the Neocon supporters. For several minutes there she was interrupted while the group got about the business of tearing out one another's throats. From there to Wright Co, then on to HD16B Sherburne and the CD6 convention itself I listened as she amazingly had less and less to say about foreign policy and more and more to say about anything else- including light bulbs, LOL.

Lastly it goes without saying that if she'd simply stayed in the Foxhole, kept her head down and not stuck her neck out in the media she'd have won here with at least a 10% margin, here in MN's most conservative district. Now that's in doubt and a troubling development is exacerbating the problem- a certain college prof at St. John's/St. Bens has thrown his hat back in the ring as a write-in choice. I spent a good deal of the day helping one of his colleagues move into her new home yesterday near St. Joe, and on the moving crew were a few other faculty members. Its an open secret up there that Mr. Aubrey Immelman, the Political Psych prof and St. Could Times political columnist, and write-in candidate who filed last weekend to have his votes counted, is a longtime Democrat supporter with the sole intent of siphoning off as much Bachmann support as possible in the hopes of helping Tinklenberg get elected. The vast majority of us Liberty people voted for him in the primary- as a protest anti-Bachmann vote at a time when it didn't matter as to the outcome, and as a result we helped Immelman out to the tune of over 14% in that primary against Bachmann. But now there are real stakes on the table in the general election, and its absolutely crucial that each and every one of our CD6 people fully understand that Immelman is all about absolute deception and they must decide accordingly. And they must be informed as to Michele's progress in the area of coming around to Liberty viewpoints, which is very real and not insubstantial. We will never know for sure if we deposed a budding Ron Paul in the making if we let Tinklenberg win. MN has no such Ron Paul in National office on the GOP side, the closest thing we have is conservative Dem Collin Peterson up in the NW, and he's a damn good rep as Dems go. I strongly urge all MN CD6'ers, despite past record on Bachmann, to give some thought to her apparent epiphany with regard to economics and the importance of limited Federal gov't living within its means, and vote to find out how she will evolve from here. A Tinklenberg win sets us back to square one.

I strongly urge all outside the district whether inside or outside of the state borders to keep an open mind on this- and the idiots who want to denigrate Dr. Paul for supporting movement in the right directions from his colleagues in Congress and more specifically on his committee- well to put it bluntly you can stick that garbage where the sun don't shine and keep it there.
 
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Response directly from her district coming here:

Bachmann is the superior choice in CD6 MN- that doesn't mean to imply that she's anywhere near a perfect choice.

Up until a month ago I would have gagged myself before ever stepping forward to support her. But we live in interesting times and things are evolving quickly- and as our congress goes she is now at the forefront in the 'coming around' category, and that is something we simply can't afford to lose in Washington under the upcoming Obama administration. There is going to be a whole army of Obamites in congress for the next session, and El Tinklenberg would be just one more such footsoldier. If there's anyone more difficult to bring around to the real problems facing this country than a formerly 100% neocon Republican, it is a big government Democrat- and we would lose an awful lot of recent positive development and be back to square one if we replace her with El. This support is tentative, of course, to future performance. But the reason Dr. Paul came forward with this entreaty towards our CD6 people is in large part because we asked him to do this.

It goes without saying that Ms. Bachmann is ditzy beyond belief at times and knows little in the way of a running gear in between 'the lights are out and no one is home here' and 'full forward gung ho.' It goes without saying that her remarks were incredibly intemperate in that she personalized them rather than sticking strictly to labeling the issues rather than the human being as Anti-American, which is the absolute truth. And of course she's still in the process of being brought up to speed on the fact that her party's leaders including McCain are also behind those Anti-American issues. But exactly like other MN politicians recently who are prone to exactly the same faults in the area of political self-induced suicide [insert Jesse here], with Michele you never have to wonder whether you're being 'handled' with deceptively intended rhetoric- love her or hate her you are getting the real Michele at all times. And to her credit she's caught on to her own stupidity in being led into her intemperate delivery of those remarks, and has admitted she was wrong to personalize them.

It was an interesting experience watching her evolve with grassroots influence this spring, from her first speaking gig at the local BPOU in Meeker County in late February- where she may as well have showed up dressed in a cheerleading outfit complete with pom-poms and a big 'W' on the blouse, she was selling Bush policy hard and was shocked I think to see her rhetoric nearly send the group into fistfights between the Liberty group and the Neocon supporters. For several minutes there she was interrupted while the group got about the business of tearing out one another's throats. From there to Wright Co, then on to HD16B Sherburne and the CD6 convention itself I listened as she amazingly had less and less to say about foreign policy and more and more to say about anything else- including light bulbs, LOL.

Lastly it goes without saying that if she'd simply stayed in the Foxhole, kept her head down and not stuck her neck out in the media she'd have won here with at least a 10% margin, here in MN's most conservative district. Now that's in doubt and a troubling development is exacerbating the problem- a certain college prof at St. John's/St. Bens has thrown his hat back in the ring as a write-in choice. I spent a good deal of the day helping one of his colleagues move into her new home yesterday near St. Joe, and on the moving crew were a few other faculty members. Its an open secret up there that Mr. Aubrey Immelman, the Political Psych prof and St. Could Times political columnist, and write-in candidate who filed last weekend to have his votes counted, is a longtime Democrat supporter with the sole intent of siphoning off as much Bachmann support as possible in the hopes of helping Tinklenberg get elected. The vast majority of us Liberty people voted for him in the primary- as a protest anti-Bachmann vote at a time when it didn't matter as to the outcome, and as a result we helped Immelman out to the tune of over 14% in that primary against Bachmann. But now there are real stakes on the table in the general election, and its absolutely crucial that each and every one of our CD6 people fully understand that Immelman is all about absolute deception and they must decide accordingly. And they must be informed as to Michele's progress in the area of coming around to Liberty viewpoints, which is very real and not insubstantial. We will never know for sure if we deposed a budding Ron Paul in the making if we let Tinklenberg win. MN has no such Ron Paul in National office on the GOP side, the closest thing we have is conservative Dem Collin Peterson up in the NW, and he's a damn good rep as Dems go. I strongly urge all MN CD6'ers, despite past record on Bachmann, to give some thought to her apparent epiphany with regard to economics and the importance of limited Federal gov't living within its means, and vote to find out how she will evolve from here. A Tinklenberg win sets us back to square one.

I strongly urge all outside the district whether inside or outside of the state borders to keep an open mind on this- and the idiots who want to denigrate Dr. Paul for supporting movement in the right directions from his colleagues in Congress and more specifically on his committee- well to put it bluntly you can stick that garbage where the sun don't shine and keep it there.


Agreed.

- ML
 
I strongly urge all outside the district whether inside or outside of the state borders to keep an open mind on this- and the idiots who want to denigrate Dr. Paul for supporting movement in the right directions from his colleagues in Congress and more specifically on his committee- well to put it bluntly you can stick that garbage where the sun don't shine and keep it there.

Those FRN's are garbage, but I'll spend them on a worthy candidate, not this piece of neocon trash. Yeah, they are all "coming around" all of the sudden... NOT. Suddenly Johhny Mac is all about smaller government and against Bush.... NOT.

Its ass kicking time, I will watch with glee when she loses.
 
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