Michelle Bachman: HORRIBLE decision by RP

[Shii]

I've given Dr. Paul a fair amount of money and in result I am getting his "Committee to Re-Elect Ron Paul" newsletter, which is different from CFL.

This morning, he sent me this e-mail:

When it comes to fiscal issues, Congresswoman Michelle Bachman is a strong ally in Washington. She recently stood up with me and voted against the massive Wall Street Bailout, a politically difficult, principled stand for which she should be commended.

Michelle also serves with me on the House Financial Services Committee where she is a consistent ally in our efforts to shine light on the Federal Reserve. Her recent Op-Ed in the Washington Times demonstrates her leadership on the Monetary Issue.

As you may have heard, Congresswoman Bachman has recently come under attack by the liberal media. Her opponent has capitalized and raised some big money in a short period of time. There is even talk of a write-in candidate with no chance of winning that would only syphon votes away from Michelle.

At this time when big government forces are grabbing more and more power, we can not afford to lose a fiscally principled Representative like Michelle Bachman in the Congress. Please join me in supporting Michelle in any way you feel comfortable and, most importantly, please make sure you get the polls and vote for her on November 4th.

The fact is, I already gave money to her opponent Tinklenberg. Bachman did not "come under attack by the liberal media" for no reason. She basically called Obama a subversive anti-American agent, and called for a investigation into "librul" un-American activities in Congress. That sort of crap is exactly what we need less of. It has nothing to do with liberty, or fixing corruption. It's just one side of the mess sliming the other. I am from Minnesota and I know everyone in that state finds that sort of talk revolting.

Michelle Bachman is a neocon with none of Dr. Paul's humility and discretion. She does not deserve his support.

 

[phixion]

But he is an anti-American agent - he's CFR - he cares not about your country's sovereignty and can't wait to strip it away.

Get with the program.

Pete

 

[amy31416]

Jesus H. Christ.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Fairness doctrine in full effect already, I see.

The point is taken about the ad-hominem attacks not being a great strategy. It does waste time and effort. BUT, alone, does not automatically make one a neo-con.

 

[matratzac]

I've given Dr. Paul a fair amount of money and in result I am getting his "Committee to Re-Elect Ron Paul" newsletter, which is different from CFL.

This morning, he sent me this e-mail:



The fact is, I already gave money to her opponent Tinklenberg. Bachman did not "come under attack by the liberal media" for no reason. She basically called Obama a subversive anti-American agent, and called for a investigation into "librul" un-American activities in Congress. That sort of crap is exactly what we need less of. It has nothing to do with liberty, or fixing corruption. It's just one side of the mess sliming the other. I am from Minnesota and I know everyone in that state finds that sort of talk revolting.

Michelle Bachman is a neocon with none of Dr. Paul's humility and discretion. She does not deserve his support.

in ur opinion, bro

 

[Shii]

in ur opinion, bro

Well, yeah it's my opinion, and I know some people think any CFR member wants to destroy America, but I think we can't restore the Constitution if we tell the public that our political enemies are equivalent to terrorists.

 

[matratzac]

Well, yeah it's my opinion, and I know some people think any CFR member wants to destroy America, but I think we can't restore the Constitution if we tell the public that our political enemies are equivalent to terrorists.

maybe he doesn't care if she made a stupid remark and would rather look at her voting record/principles/issues. i agree she said an idiotic thing but still.

 

[phixion]

Shii,

Did you ever read Ron Paul's newsletter from back in the day?

He had very harsh words against the establishment and opponents, etc.

Just look at him in the video on Morton Downey Junior from back in the day when he was on fire, saying such things as "I say she invited it by the way she was dressed" in response to Lisa Sliwa stating one of her people (or whatever) were stabbed, I recall.

We need all kinds of people fighting for us.

Pete

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Well, yeah it's my opinion, and I know some people think any CFR member wants to destroy America, but I think we can't restore the Constitution if we tell the public that our political enemies are equivalent to terrorists.

But they are.. They are domestic enemies.. And theyre more dangerous to us than Alqaeda IMO.

 

[max]

I've given Dr. Paul a fair amount of money and in result I am getting his "Committee to Re-Elect Ron Paul" newsletter, which is different from CFL.

This morning, he sent me this e-mail:



The fact is, I already gave money to her opponent Tinklenberg. Bachman did not "come under attack by the liberal media" for no reason. She basically called Obama a subversive anti-American agent, and called for a investigation into "librul" un-American activities in Congress. That sort of crap is exactly what we need less of. It has nothing to do with liberty, or fixing corruption. It's just one side of the mess sliming the other. I am from Minnesota and I know everyone in that state finds that sort of talk revolting.

Michelle Bachman is a neocon with none of Dr. Paul's humility and discretion. She does not deserve his support.

obama IS a subversive marxist america hater...as is his nasty white hating wife.......if minnesotans find the truth offensive...blame urselves...not ms. bachman

 

[PatriotOne]

I've given Dr. Paul a fair amount of money and in result I am getting his "Committee to Re-Elect Ron Paul" newsletter, which is different from CFL.

This morning, he sent me this e-mail:



The fact is, I already gave money to her opponent Tinklenberg. Bachman did not "come under attack by the liberal media" for no reason. She basically called Obama a subversive anti-American agent, and called for a investigation into "librul" un-American activities in Congress. That sort of crap is exactly what we need less of. It has nothing to do with liberty, or fixing corruption. It's just one side of the mess sliming the other. I am from Minnesota and I know everyone in that state finds that sort of talk revolting.

Michelle Bachman is a neocon with none of Dr. Paul's humility and discretion. She does not deserve his support.

Gee....not politically correct enough for ya? Time to dispense with politeness when there ARE subversive anti-american agents working to destroy America. Only plain English will do sometimes.

 

[klamath]

So what was Tinklenburgs opinion of the bailout, the fed and all the issues?
It seems RP is mounting a campaign to try and help all the members of congress that voted against the bailout. I got one asking me to support McClintock who is running for congress and was deadly oposed the the bailout. I think the bailout meant a whole lot to RP and he believes it is a very important issue on who really believes in small government.

 

[Mini-Me]

Yeah, I'd have to agree this was a pretty bad call...but it might have positive consequences...

Bachman is starting to attack other politicians with the anti-American slur, and Obama's just the first. Frankly, before this, the odds were just as good that she'd go imperial and start ranting about Ron Paul's "anti-American" foreign policy. This didn't really work in the primary debates when other candidates took cheap swipes at Ron Paul (Ahmadinejad's newsletter comment, etc.), but if she's gearing up to do this full time as a new Joseph McCarthy and somehow succeeds at capturing public opinion (doubtful IMO though), the last thing Paul needs is to be mercilessly targeted by someone like that. By running to her defense, Paul might not only be able to insulate himself and us from the hysteria over "anti-Americanism" but even potentially affect her ideas about who the good guys and bad guys are.

Even if that's why he did it, I still don't agree with it, because it's a pretty Machiavellian political move and not his style...but I dunno. I'm just trying to come up with a better reason than, "Ron Paul screwed up royally."

 

[revolutionary8]

Yeah, I'd have to agree this was a pretty bad call...but it might have positive consequences...

Bachman is starting to attack other politicians with the anti-American slur, and Obama's just the first. Frankly, before this, the odds were just as good that she'd go imperial and start ranting about Ron Paul's "anti-American" foreign policy. This didn't really work in the primary debates when other candidates took cheap swipes at Ron Paul (Ahmadinejad's newsletter comment, etc.), but if she's gearing up to do this full time as a new Joseph McCarthy and somehow succeeds at capturing public opinion (doubtful IMO though), the last thing Paul needs is to be mercilessly targeted by someone like that. By running to her defense, Paul might not only be able to insulate himself and us from the hysteria over "anti-Americanism" but even potentially affect her ideas about who the good guys and bad guys are.

Even if that's why he did it, I still don't agree with it, because it's a pretty Machiavellian political move and not his style...but I dunno. I'm just trying to come up with a better reason than, "Ron Paul screwed up royally."

Interesting thoughts Mini-Me. I glanced over Tinklenberg's issues- he is anti-war, and he served under Gov. Jesse Ventura, I believe as head of transportation. He is all for the mass transit system. He is anti-war and says that the is against higher taxes, but that is impossible if you are big mass-transit. He is also for Universal Healthcare.

Ron Paul did co-sponser about 6 of her bills, but I haven't gotten the chance to look them over. She is pro-war. Bleck. But if she is out to expose the Fed, then good on her for that.

Edit the more I read, the scarier he becomes:

We must put aside our political differences and begin the transition to universal healthcare by expanding SCHIP to cover every American child. It is our moral obligation to make sure our children have access to care
I will support the continued availability of private insurance options alongside a competitively priced public option, while insisting that no insurance company be allowed to deny coverage due to pre-existing health conditions.
I will support long-term care benefits for the elderly.
I will vote to allow direct price negotiations between the federal government and pharmaceutical manufacturers.

I will vote to preserve hunting and fishing habitat, including making incentives for the creation and preservation of open space.
I will advocate for clean air and water through better regulation of vehicular emissions and industrial waste, and supporting a carbon tax or cap-and-trade system to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
I will support investing in energy independence through renewable energy alternatives.
I will support a farm bill that rewards responsible land management practices and benefits local family farms.

The evidence is in and speaks overwhelmingly – global climate change is real. To deny its potential impact would be to gamble with our children's and grandchildren's futures. America must reduce its dependence on the coal and petroleum products that contribute to global warming, and energy alternatives are becoming widely available in bio-derived, nuclear, solar, and wind energy.

I will work to see that the following measures are included in America’s energy policy:


Tax incentives to reward energy conservation and the use of alternative fuels in transportation, heating, lighting, and manufacturing, including implementation of a revenue-neutral carbon tax.
Sensible, progressive increases in CAFE fleet standards for fuel usage of automobiles and trucks.
Substantial increases in funding for mass transit and highway improvements to enhance transportation efficiency and reduce gridlock on our streets and highways.

http://www.tinklenberg08.com/issues.html

 

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

As much as I like Ron Paul, I also have to disagree with this endorsement. Sending out letters (likely ghost written) in support of people like Bachman and Don Young is just wrong. Yes, Bachman gets props for voting down the bailout. However, she has historically spoken up in favor of the war and empowering Patriot Act like garbage because of scary "Islamofascists." Ron Paul should only lend his name to endorsing liberty Republicans and others, not quasi-neo-cons who occasionally make a few good decisions.

 

[AJ Antimony]

Ever heard of ignoring shit and not taking everything so personally?

 

[klamath]

I think RP is looking at this where this congresswomans value is and that is on the house Financial Services Committee. That is a very big gatekeeper to house spending. I believe he wants as many allies on this comittee as he can get.

 

[StateofTrance]

Although I do feel that Ron Paul needs allies at the moment, this lady is a NEO-CON HACK. I'm live in MN right now, and this hack needs to be booted out. '

Mark my words - Ron's name AND value will be in danger if he keeps "endorsing" and sending such letters to his followers i.e. us. This is beyond pathetic. Granted He knows what he's doing and I'm no one to judge his moves, but come on..

 

[StateofTrance]

But, yeah,

She's a hot, brunette MILF

 

[Ninja Homer]

Bachman did not "come under attack by the liberal media" for no reason. She basically called Obama a subversive anti-American agent, and called for a investigation into "librul" un-American activities in Congress. That sort of crap is exactly what we need less of. It has nothing to do with liberty, or fixing corruption. It's just one side of the mess sliming the other. I am from Minnesota and I know everyone in that state finds that sort of talk revolting.

Michelle Bachman is a neocon with none of Dr. Paul's humility and discretion. She does not deserve his support.

Bachmann said she suspects that Obama may be anti-American, because of the people he associates with. She went on to say that she'd like to see the media investigate and do an expose on congressman that are anti-American.

Here's the youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FocyKsnN4ng

Frankly, I agree with both of those things.

She made a big mistake... she called out for the liberal media to investigate liberal congressmen, and they are in bed together, so they can't have Bachmann talking about that kind of thing. That's why Bachmann was under attack by the liberal media.

I applaud Bachmann for standing up against the Fed. The Fed is the cornerstone of all that is wrong with our government, and when that goes down, all else will follow, so we need as many allies against the Fed as possible. In my eyes, it's the #1 issue and all other issues pale in comparison at this point in time.

Tinklenberg is pretty good, but I'd much rather see him up against somebody else. As a Ron Paul supporter, it's really a tough call between the 2 of them.