Miami Judge Rules Against Gay Adoption Ban

[BlackTerrel]

This seems to be happening in every state now. The people vote to ban gay marriage or adoption and then a judge overturns it. Why do we even vote? And why are judges so much more pro-gay than the general populace?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081125/ap_on_re_us/gay_adoptions

MIAMI – A judge on Tuesday ruled that a strict Florida law that blocks gay people from adopting children is unconstitutional, declaring there was no legal or scientific reason for sexual orientation alone to prohibit anyone from adopting.

Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Cindy Lederman said the 31-year-old law violates equal protection rights for the children and their prospective gay parents, rejecting the state's arguments that there is "a supposed dark cloud hovering over homes of homosexuals and their children."

 

[nate895]

Of course, this should be up to the individual adoption agency (and the state shouldn't run any agencies). I would advocate against young mothers to send their children to agencies that allowed gay adoption.

 

[SeanEdwards]

Jennifer Chrisler, executive director of the Boston-based Family Equality Council, said the decision is a "long-overdue recognition of the equal ability of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people to raise happy, healthy families."

This right here is why I won't support gay marriage. It's not about civil rights, it's about gay people strong arming society at large into rejecting common sense. Children deserve both a mother and a father, and two dads or two moms can never be "equal" to the family configuration endorsed by nature.

 

[Pennsylvania]

I've always felt strange about this issue. I don't care if two men or two women marry, but this brings an additional person into the mix. I can't prove this would have any ill psychological effect on the child, but it just makes me feel bad for the child

 

[nate895]

This right here is why I won't support gay marriage. It's not about civil rights, it's about gay people strong arming society at large into rejecting common sense. Children deserve both a mother and a father, and two dads or two moms can never be "equal" to the family configuration endorsed by nature.

It is what happens when you let the state run your life. It is totally unnatural for the vast majority of the world to work the way it does. The world today rejects common sense because the government has "edumacated" us out of having any.

 

[JK/SEA]

This right here is why I won't support gay marriage. It's not about civil rights, it's about gay people strong arming society at large into rejecting common sense. Children deserve both a mother and a father, and two dads or two moms can never be "equal" to the family configuration endorsed by nature.

This is bullshit.

I'm not gay, but it seems you do indeed have a line in the sand when it comes to freedom(s).

Another fake Ron Paul supporter(s).

 

[nate895]

This is bullshit.

I'm not gay, but it seems you do indeed have a line in the sand when it comes to freedom(s).

Another fake Ron Paul supporter(s).

Apparently you don't understand the point of freedom, we let people do whatever they want privately, but we still think it is bullshit if we want to. Homosexuality is an unnatural phenomenon, and it is even more unnatural to have children raised in an environment to be taught it is natural.

 

[JK/SEA]

Apparently you don't understand the point of freedom, we let people do whatever they want privately, but we still think it is bullshit if we want to. Homosexuality is an unnatural phenomenon, and it is even more unnatural to have children raised in an environment to be taught it is natural.

You have just an opinion, which is riddled with homophobia.... The judge ruled with facts, and the Constitution.

Another fake Ron Paul supporter...sad.

 

[nate895]

You have just an opinion, which is riddled with homophobia.... The judge ruled with facts, and the Constitution.

Another fake Ron Paul supporter...sad.

I have already said it should be up to the adoption agency. More than likely, this judge has ordered that the state adoption agency should allow gay adoption, and for private adoptions to be punished in some way for not allowing it. That is a matter for the legislature, but I'd rather there be no state adoption agency or any punishment for anti-gay adoption agencies.

As for homophobia, in what way is homosexuality a good for society or for children being raised by homosexuals? Children should learn common sense. Being gay has nothing to do with common sense and violates all human instinct.

 

[Doktor_Jeep]

Wonder if these judges would overturn gun bans?

 

[The_Orlonater]

Of course, this should be up to the individual adoption agency (and the state shouldn't run any agencies). I would advocate against young mothers to send their children to agencies that allowed gay adoption.

Yeah, those evil gays.

This is why we "bigots" don't like your grotesque religion or religious lifestyle.

 

[nate895]

Yeah, those evil gays.

This is why we "bigots" don't like your grotesque religion or religious lifestyle.

Who said anything about being evil? Homosexuality is unnatural, and definitely not the natural way children should be raised.

 

[JK/SEA]

I have already said it should be up to the adoption agency. More than likely, this judge has ordered that the state adoption agency should allow gay adoption, and for private adoptions to be punished in some way for not allowing it. That is a matter for the legislature, but I'd rather there be no state adoption agency or any punishment for anti-gay adoption agencies.

As for homophobia, in what way is homosexuality a good for society or for children being raised by homosexuals? Children should learn common sense. Being gay has nothing to do with common sense and violates all human instinct.

OH, i see. So its freedom, freedom, freedom..except for you, you and you, because i said so!..

Can't do it Nate. You're wrong again on this one.

 

[nate895]

OH, i see. So its freedom, freedom, freedom..except for you, you and you, because i said so!..

Can't do it Nate. You're wrong again on this one.

How isn't it freedom. It is tyrannical for you to force me to think gay marriage is moral, or to support in anyway the adoption of children into gay "families." I should have the right to not support it.

 

[The_Orlonater]

Who said anything about being evil? Homosexuality is unnatural, and definitely not the natural way children should be raised.

And who the hell are you to judge that? There are plenty of great gay parents. Being gay isn't a choice. Following a contradictory book written 100 years after the so called birth of "christ" is. Lay off the gays, they are not a bunch of feminine acting twits.

 

[JK/SEA]

Wonder if these judges would overturn gun bans?

one way to find out.

We need a gay person to open carry down a crowded hetero-sexual nude beach....

 

[The_Orlonater]

How isn't it freedom. It is tyrannical for you to force me to think gay marriage is moral, or to support in anyway the adoption of children into gay "families." I should have the right to not support it.

Tyranical? No one is putting a gun to your head. We're simply inveighing against the drivel you preach. I'm tired of this anti-gay, anti-abortion, and so on movement.

 

[nate895]

And who the hell are you to judge that? There are plenty of great gay parents. Being gay isn't a choice. Following a contradictory book written 100 years after the so called birth of "christ" is. Lay off the gays, they are not a bunch of feminine acting twits.

I am free to judge whatever way I please. There is a reason why it is only possible for one man and woman to produce a child. That is the natural way of raising children.

As far as gay being a choice, it is an unnatural hormone imbalance or a choice. Either way, it is unnatural.

 

[dannno]

This right here is why I won't support gay marriage. It's not about civil rights, it's about gay people strong arming society at large into rejecting common sense. Children deserve both a mother and a father, and two dads or two moms can never be "equal" to the family configuration endorsed by nature.

This is collectivist and short-sighted thinking.

First of all, if a straight family wants to adopt there is no shortage of kids who need adopting. You are assuming that gay couples are taking the ability to raise kids from straight couples. Instead, think of adopting couples, gay or straight, like a back-up running team for when the first string gets injured.

Secondly, this is a collectivist statement implying that ALL straight couples are better at raising kids than ALL gay couples. If you let the free market work it out and allow groups to adopt to whoever they want, then they would be able to deny a straight couple who lacks the ability and perhaps the means to raise a child and give them instead to a functional, friendly gay couple. You, on the other hand, want to put them in a position where they can only choose the dysfunctional straight couple.

And no, I don't want to "force" organizations to adopt to gay couples, I just think it's ridiculous to argue that they shouldn't be allowed to adopt when there are so many kids in foster homes, which I would argue is much worse than growing up with gay parents in a stable household.

 

[The_Orlonater]

I am free to judge whatever way I please. There is a reason why it is only possible for one man and woman to produce a child. That is the natural way of raising children.

As far as gay being a choice, it is an unnatural hormone imbalance or a choice. Either way, it is unnatural.

So? Who cares? Even if the so called "unnatural hormone" balance is truerolleyes, it doesn't mean that they aren't hard working, moraled(as in respecting you, your property and so on) people. I bet some of those gay parents can raise a better kid than some of those "natural" parents. Let people choose their sexual lifestyle and whether they can adopt kids.