Message from the campaign: If you're for Ron Paul, Vote for Ron Paul

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If You’re for Ron Paul, Vote for Ron Paul

In a few supporter forums the idea is going around that one way to help Ron Paul might be to vote for Mike Huckabee in the hope that if Huckabee wins enough delegates we might get a brokered convention in the fall. Most of the supporters who like this idea at least say that it should only be tried in those winner-take-all primary states where Ron Paul has the least favorable odds.

I strongly advise against this tactical voting. Ron Paul is serious when he says he wants to win every possible vote as well as every possible national delegate. That includes your vote, even if the state you’re in presents seemingly unsurmountable odds against Dr. Paul. Our candidate is fighting hard for the nomination, and his goal, which should be our goal, is not to try to create a brokered convention, but to win every vote he can. The nomination is at stake, and much more is at stake too, including the future of the Republican Party and the future of the Republic. To build up the Ron Paul revolution, we need to show as much strength as possible in every contest, and we need the support and loyalty of everyone who wants to get back to the Constitution.

The deal worked out between our delegates and Mike Huckabee’s in West Virginia was one thing. Ron Paul was eliminated in the first round of voting and did not appear on the ballot in the second round, so our delegates who voted for Huckabee were not deserting Ron Paul — and, crucially, they were voting for Huckabee only because Huckabee’s people promised three national delegates for Dr. Paul. That kind of bargaining is sound. But voting for a candidate other than Ron Paul when there isn’t any chance of getting delegates for Dr. Paul, merely in the hope of having a brokered convention, only weakens the Ron Paul movement rather than strengthening it. We need every vote.

The same goes for leaving the Republican Party and registering as something else. Ron Paul has said how much he respects third parties. But Dr. Paul is in a fight to take back the Republican Party, and to do that he needs all of us to stay with him. I know this can be unpleasant — I registered as an independent when I moved to Delaware last year, and had to switch my registration back to the Republican Party that had left me years before in order to vote for Ron Paul. But however large the problems of the Republican Party may be (and they’re titanic) the one man in whom I have confidence to bring the party back to small-government, non-interventionist, constitutional principles is Ron Paul. If he’s not going third party, neither am I.

Tomorrow there are critical contests in Virginia, Maryland, and the District of Columbia. If you live in those states, get out and vote — for Ron Paul.
 
Message from Campaign : If You’re for Ron Paul, Vote for Ron Paul

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Our candidate is fighting hard for the nomination, and his goal, which should be our goal, is not to try to create a brokered convention, but to win every vote he can. The nomination is at stake, and much more is at stake too, including the future of the Republican Party and the future of the Republic.

Ok.. I am completely lost at this point. We are fighting hard for the nomination. There are not enough delegates out there for us to hit 1,199. We are not trying to create a brokered convention. I guess at this point we just say blind faith and follow. I'm in this all the way, and would vote Ron Paul if I were in one of those states now, but I'm starting to wonder if someone at HQ needs a math refresher course.
 
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Thank you for this (much needed) post/link LibertyEagle. I hope it knocks some sense into folks.
 
As the first vote for Huckabee advocate, I came quick to realize it was never going to happen. I'm glad they sent this out
 
yes...
i approve of this "vote for Ron Paul" strategy.
But if any of y'all are still thinking you need to vote for Huckabee, you MUST get on as a Huck delegate. Since we are actually electing delegates, it's only worth betraying your ron paul vote if you are electing yourself as a mole delegate for huckabee. If you are not 100% sure we have the mole delegates in place, vote for RP for God's sake!

Vote for Ron Paul....
a strategy we can't forget.
 
Here, Here....lets get that message out to all our Meetups.

I comented yesterday on a thread asking if we should vote for Huck in Maryland. My answer was, "NO". No, for the very reason mentioned by the OP. Tactical voting is only good if you're sure you can be the delegate, and only good if the deal is performed by the campaigns.

You vote for RP is NOT a wasted vote. Its a vote for Freedom, and a vote for Liberty.
 
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Ok.. I am completely lost at this point. We are fighting hard for the nomination. There are not enough delegates out there for us to hit 1,199. We are not trying to create a brokered convention. I guess at this point we just say blind faith and follow. I'm in this all the way, and would vote Ron Paul if I were in one of those states now, but I'm starting to wonder if someone at HQ needs a math refresher course.

They are also trying to find Revolution hot spots throughout the country and voting for Huckabee will muddle that.
 
Ok.. I am completely lost at this point. We are fighting hard for the nomination. There are not enough delegates out there for us to hit 1,199. We are not trying to create a brokered convention. I guess at this point we just say blind faith and follow. I'm in this all the way, and would vote Ron Paul if I were in one of those states now, but I'm starting to wonder if someone at HQ needs a math refresher course.

No.. No math refresher needed. Bradley has confirmed such and i do believe he is worth paying mond to.

Best
randy
 
Our candidate is fighting hard for the nomination, and his goal, which should be our goal, is not to try to create a brokered convention, but to win every vote he can.

To be honest, that sentence makes no sense what so ever to me. We're not in a position where it's even mathematically possible to get 1,191 delegates. If we aren't aiming to create a brokered convention, what exactly is the plan to win the nomination? Yes, the other part has an interesting take on demonstrating and feeling just how much Ron Paul support there is, but it directly contradicts the stated goal of winning the nomination.

Just putting it out there, flame away. I don't live in any of the 4 states voting tomorrow, but I will be pissed if McCain wins by a smaller margin than Paul walks away with. Any and all McCain losses tomorrow would be devastating blows to his campaign.
 
They are also trying to find Revolution hot spots throughout the country and voting for Huckabee will muddle that.

But it says they are fighting hard for the nomination. And that they are not aiming for a brokered convention. I do not doubt you that there is other information they want, just what we have now + whats left is not greater than 1,199.. unless my calculator is very broken.
 
To be honest, that sentence makes no sense what so ever to me. We're not in a position where it's even mathematically possible to get 1,191 delegates.

It is possible and the part of you post I snipped leaves a great deal of doubt where your loyalties lie. Fuck yer threats of getting pissed. the way you presented them looks like yer yet another prevaricating Huckabilly.

Randy
 
No.. No math refresher needed. Bradley has confirmed such and i do believe he is worth paying mond to.

Best
randy

Ok, since you happened to drop the name of one of the guys around here whos math I honestly do trust (And this is not sarcasm, I've built up great respect for his opinions reading his posts here).
 
It is possible and the part of you post I snipped leaves a great deal of doubt where your loyalties lie. Fuck yer threats of getting pissed. the way you presented them looks like yer yet another prevaricating Huckabilly.

Randy

No need to get snarly, most of us here (besides the trolls) are on the same team. I think the poster you quoted loyalties lie in the right place. This is a confusing post to some of us.

However, you mentioned Bradley in a post, and Bradley would know more about this system than most of us will ever know, so I'll leave it at that. I already voted on Super Tuesday, so I have no stake in the matter anyways.
 
The keyword in that sentence is "goal":

his goal, which should be our goal, is not to try to create a brokered convention, but to win every vote he can.

A brokered convention can't be his goal. He wants the nomination, he wants votes, and he wants to be seen to have an increasing following. The next paragraph follows up on this:

The nomination is at stake, and much more is at stake too, including the future of the Republican Party and the future of the Republic. To build up the Ron Paul revolution, we need to show as much strength as possible in every contest, and we need the support and loyalty of everyone who wants to get back to the Constitution.
 
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