Mental illness risk ‘rises 30 per cent for women who have abortions’

...A single study does not represent the entire field of mental health, nor it's practitioners.

By all means no, but if you do not believe that policy agenda will be encouraging sex with children, you have not been looking hard enough at the vanguard in the European Union. Plus there is already some sordid history with the APA, from 'How America Went Gay' by Charles W. Socarides, M.D.:

"...targeted the members of a worldly priesthood, the psychiatric community, and neutralized them with a radical redefinition of homosexuality itself. In 1972 and 1973 they co-opted the leadership of the American Psychiatric Association and, through a series of political maneuvers, lies and outright flim-flams, they "cured" homosexuality overnight-by fiat. They got the A.P.A. to say that same-sex sex was "not a disorder." It was merely "a condition"-as neutral as lefthandedness.

This amounted to a full approval of homosexuality. Those of us who did not go along with the political redefinition were soon silenced at our own professional meetings. Our lectures were canceled inside academe and our research papers turned down in the learned journals. Worse things followed in the culture at large. Television and movie producers began to do stories promoting homosexuality as a legitimate lifestyle. A gay review board told Hollywood how it should deal or not deal with homosexuality. Mainstream publishers turned down books that objected to the gay revolution. Gays and lesbians influenced sex education in our nation's schools, and gay and lesbian libbers seized wide control of faculty committees in our nations' colleges. State legislatures nullified laws against sodomy.

If the print media paid any attention at all, they tended to hail the gay revolution, possibly because many of the reporters on gay issues were themselves gay and open advocates for the movement. And those reporters who were not gay seemed too intimidated by groupthink to expose what was going on in their own newsrooms.

And now, what happens to those of us who stand up and object?"

Charles W. Socarides, M.D., is clinical professor of psychiatry at Albert Einstein College of Medicine/Montefiore Medical Center in New York.

Then this little telling-gem:

Tavistock Institute for Medical Psychology

In Mental Health, vol. 1, no. 4, October 1940, one finds a speech by John Rawlings Rees
(deputy director of the Tavistock Institute for Medical Psychology, begun in
1920) on June 18, 1940, in which he reveals:

"We can therefore justifiably stress our particular point of view with regard
to the proper development of the human psyche, even though our knowledge
be incomplete. We must aim to make it permeate every educational
activity in our national life. . . . Public life, politics, and industry should
all of them be within our sphere of influence. . . . Especially since the last
world war we have done much to infiltrate the various social organizations
throughout the country.... Similarly we have made a useful attack upon a
number of professions.

The two easiest of them naturally are the teaching profession and the
church: the two most difficult are law and medicine.... If we are to infiltrate
the professional and social activities of other people, I think we must
imitate the Totalitarian and organize some kind of fifth column activity!
If
better ideas on mental health are to progress and spread we, as the salesmen,
must lose our identity. . . . Let us all, therefore, very secretly be "fifth
columnists."
. . . We have often been too spasmodic in our work and I feel
we need a long-term plan of propaganda. . . . I doubt the wisdom of a direct
attack upon the existing state of affairs
; even though there is a war on,
that would still raise opposition, whereas the more insidious approach of
suggesting that something better is needed—"why shouldn't we try so and
so"—is more likely to succeed. . . . Many people don't like to be "saved,"
"changed" or made healthy. I have a feeling, however, that "efficiency and
economy" would make rather a good appeal because there are very few people
who would not welcome these two suggestions."

The APA has been infiltrated; not unlike how psychiatry was utilized in the Soviet Union: Bertrand Russell called it using "injunctions".

Not to say that you are part of this.
 
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This isn't saying the same thing as 'sodomizing a child is o.k. if the child consents'. It doesn't even come anywhere close.

This is more of a, 'if you were thinking of using insanity as a defense for any of these behaviors, forget it'.

Meanwhile, back on subject, abortion and mental issues comprise (in my opinion) a chicken-and-egg riddle.

Champ, I wasn't finding the original article. I don't have time, but I recommend you study the issue. It's not incumbant upon anyone who points out a problem to prove everything on a casual message board. Here is what you need to know, just about every major agency in this country has been compromised to indecency for the sake of making people slaves to the gov't. The articles provided by Lucius may be sufficient, but from my history in online debating I realize those that promote perversity provide no proofs at all, and those that fight against must "prove" themselves and no answer is sufficient.

The bottom line is anyone who is against what Rand correctly identifies as a "right" (the classical definition) as a moral imperative for the good of society is part of the problem.

If you think a country filled with sexual perversity, whether it be homosexuality or addictions to pornography, or physical perversity can exist in a state of equilibrium is insane. No country can last when the minds of the people have been so eviscerated to logic and ethics as a non-issue then the country is over. People today love debating without debating logically or honestly.

That's our future, and the reason why this "movement" will never be anything more than tools of the establishment who believe they are promoting liberty when in fact they promote slavery to immorality, which is the anti-thesis of "rights".
 
That's our future, and the reason why this "movement" will never be anything more than tools of the establishment who believe they are promoting liberty when in fact they promote slavery to immorality, which is the antithesis of "rights".

Well, that is a point. The Founding Fathers themselves said that in order for a republic to work, the populace must be moral. And, yes, there has been a big shift in the morality of this nation--and, interestingly enough, the tax code has been a big part of it. I remember when moral people wouldn't cheat on their taxes, and other people (who basically were moral people) laughed at them for not being willing to cheat the obvious cheaters. One could understand both sides. So, yes, I basically agree with you that this is going on and it isn't helpful to the cause of liberty.

That said, times do change as well. The invention of birth control, for example, made it possible for people to enjoy life a little more without taking on added responsibility they might not want. Call it immoral if you wish, but we've adapted to it so it's a fact of life now. And not all such change is immoral. The end of slavery was not immoral.

"One might as well expect a man to wear the same suit of clothes that fit him as a boy as to expect a people to live under the laws of their barbarous ancestors."--Thomas Jefferson.
 
Well, that is a point. The Founding Fathers themselves said that in order for a republic to work, the populace must be moral. And, yes, there has been a big shift in the morality of this nation--and, interestingly enough, the tax code has been a big part of it. I remember when moral people wouldn't cheat on their taxes, and other people (who basically were moral people) laughed at them for not being willing to cheat the obvious cheaters. One could understand both sides. So, yes, I basically agree with you that this is going on and it isn't helpful to the cause of liberty.

That said, times do change as well. The invention of birth control, for example, made it possible for people to enjoy life a little more without taking on added responsibility they might not want. Call it immoral if you wish, but we've adapted to it so it's a fact of life now. And not all such change is immoral. The end of slavery was not immoral.

"One might as well expect a man to wear the same suit of clothes that fit him as a boy as to expect a people to live under the laws of their barbarous ancestors."--Thomas Jefferson.

Very well put. Brings to mind a W. Durant quote:

"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within."

This is SOP for the cryptocracy.
 
As if I have the time, but to amuse you I did a small search and provided a link, which I know won't change your mind:

http://pedophileophobia.com/disorder.htm

"In a step critics charge could result in decriminalizing sexual contact between adults and children, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) recently sponsored a symposium in which participants discussed the removal of pedophilia from an upcoming edition of the psychiatric manual of mental disorders.

Some mental health professionals attending an annual APA convention May 19 in San Francisco proposed removing several long-recognized categories of mental illness - including pedophilia, exhibitionism, fetishism, transvestism, voyeurism and sadomasochism - from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)."

They sponsored an event to discuss the removal of such things. The APA funded a meeting to get rid of sexual deviancy. Not shut your hole and get an education.


Ouch, this really hurts my case. I mean how can I argue with such a well known, well respected site of academic knowledge like www.pedophileophobia.com:rolleyes:
 
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