Megyn Kelly GRILLS Debbie Wasserman Schultz On Abortion, Rand Paul

[nobody's_hero]

Gosh, I'm so sick of hearing about abortion. The country is going to hell in a hand basket already. When are they going to discuss the critical issues of the day? Ever?

This is exactly why I don't watch these news entertainment programs anymore.

Meh. I might have agreed with you a few years ago but then again, if government doesn't even value life then you'll be lucky to get anyone in government to give even half a shit about the rest of the issues. The problem I see so often is that abortion talk has historically been just something to boost a candidate's numbers in the polls and no one actually ever does anything about it. That's when the debate is meaningless in my opinion.

I mean, I'd love to see the IRS abolished but it wouldn't do me much good if government's next action after abolishing the IRS is to erase me from existence—a belated abortion of sorts.

 

[Millennial Conservatarian]

Rand successfully scored points on this issue without bringing up God, Jesus, or religion. The religious right should take notice.

 

[CaptUSA]

I don't think Megyn did Rand any favors in this...

I can see she has got her marching orders. Same with Greta. Sad.

 

[juleswin]

What's in a Burrito Bowl? Sounds kinda good..Was Hillary likely farting up a storm in the van at some point?

Mainly rice and meat. Not nearly enough beans to fart up a storm. Its actually very good and filling for the price.

 

[specsaregood]

He's 100% right on. The only time in my opinion it is acceptable to terminate a pregnancy is prior to implantation in the case of rape or incest, by the use of a "morning after" pill. I believe this is RP's position also.

It is not quite RP's position. . He thinks life begins at conception; his point has always been that you can't know or prove if a pregnancy has begun (been conceived) until after implantation; so you can't really know if it is ending a life and thus thinks you could not legally justify banning the morning after pill. ie: most of the times the morning after pill is taken it is not ending a pregnancy or potential pregnancy at all.

 

[specsaregood]

//duped

 

[Legend1104]

Gosh, I'm so sick of hearing about abortion. The country is going to hell in a hand basket already. When are they going to discuss the critical issues of the day? Ever?

This is exactly why I don't watch these news entertainment programs anymore.

This is a critical issue. It addresses the true underlying cause of our countries problem. We have lost our soul. Those principles that this country is founded on i.e. the importance of the individual and of life itself. God made man individual and gave high value to the individual. He created us as individuals, he instilled in us individual rights, and he saves us as individuals. All life is important and THIS fact is where all of our rights spring from. Once that idea was undermined, the whole system began to fail and that is why the "country is going to hell in a hand basket." All of these other problems like debt, wars, lost of freedom, etc. are symptoms of the idea that life is only valuable as part of the collective and what you give to society, rather than having intrinsic value.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Rand successfully scored points on this issue without bringing up God, Jesus, or religion. The religious right should take notice.

If God does not exist, why wouldn't it be right to kill 9 month old babies, or 3 year old babies?

 

[philipped]

Rand successfully scored points on this issue without bringing up God, Jesus, or religion. The religious right should take notice.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Millennial Conservatarian again.

 

[Suzu]

If God does not exist, why wouldn't it be right to kill 9 month old babies, or 3 year old babies?

Murder is wrong regardless whether there's a god or not. Would your morality change if you knew for certain that there isn't a god? I sure hope not.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Murder is wrong regardless whether there's a god or not. Would your morality change if you knew for certain that there isn't a god? I sure hope not.

Why?

 

[Suzu]

It is not quite RP's position. . He thinks life begins at conception; his point has always been that you can't know or prove if a pregnancy has begun (been conceived) until after implantation; so you can't really know if it is ending a life and thus thinks you could not legally justify banning the morning after pill. ie: most of the times the morning after pill is taken it is not ending a pregnancy or potential pregnancy at all.

That works, too. I just wasn't aware of all those nuances. Another good reason for opposing abortion, aside from the wrongful taking of life, is that it is very damaging to a woman's health in the long term. But prior to implantation, the damage is minimal and confined to the side effects of the medication. In the case of ripping a fetus out of the womb, the damage becomes much worse and lasts for a lifetime.

 

[Suzu]

Why?

Why not?

 

[Sola_Fide]

Why not?

Because the Creator said don't murder Iinnocent people.

 

[Suzu]

Because the Creator said don't murder Iinnocent people.

Well, if you're talking about the god of the Christian bible (and I think you probably are, if the quote in your sig line is any indication of your beliefs), then he's not a very good example of "walking the talk". Maybe you ought to read some of that Old Testament one of these days.

 

[jbauer]

If God does not exist, why wouldn't it be right to kill 9 month old babies, or 3 year old babies?

Pfffff.....3 yr old babies. Most kids these days can't take care of themselves well into their 30s.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Well, if you're talking about the god of the Christian bible (and I think you probably are, if the quote in your sig line is any indication of your beliefs), then he's not a very good example of "walking the talk". Maybe you ought to read some of that Old Testament one of these days.

The Christian position is that ethics is based on God's command. So when God commanded the armies of Israel to destroy it's enemies, that was good. Likewise when God says do not murder, it is good. There are no more commands today for Christians to militarily go after certain people, but the moral law that says "do not murder" endures to the end.

If God does not exist, saying "murder is wrong" is completely arbitrary.

 

[jbauer]

Why?

Because you'd be denying someone the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Because you'd be denying someone the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Why is it wrong to do that?

 

[Suzu]

The Christian position is that ethics is based on God's command. So when God commanded the armies of Israel to destroy it's enemies, that was good. Likewise when God says do not murder, it is good. There are no more commands today for Christians to militarily go after certain people

Except, apparently, if your name is George W. Bush!

If God does not exist, saying "murder is wrong" is completely arbitrary.

I think refraining from killing other people is much more than "arbitrary". If the only reason not to kill is fear of eternal damnation, then that sort of "morality" should be tossed.