Meetup Group Turnouts?

Okay you want my take. Can you handle the truth? Most people do a pathetic job of making a meeting worth coming to. First they don't have an agenda put out before hand. Second they build no sense of community by any emails during the week. Add to this that most people do have a combination of fear and inertia (read lazy). I know I'm generalizing here so you can skip the sophomoric responses of 'not me.'

Let me explain in detail. It is imperative that you invite your meetups to email through the meetup client software. We learn about what each other are like and become curious about who they are in real life. Then when the actual event comes they know a little of what to expect. Yes, some will complain about excessive emails. I say that building the community comes first. Tell these whiners to learn how to hit the delete key. If they feel this is too inconvient it is no wonder that they won't get off their butts to come out to something. Enough said.

But there are some things that we as leaders can do. How about a good old fashioned barn burner speech. Listen I live in Florida. You think that it is easy to get people to come out for rush hour sign waivings when it is 93 degrees?? Nope, it's not. That's when I take a deep breath and lay out the situation. You tell your people, "It's frickin' 130 degrees in Iraq. And their wearing heavy protective clothing. Anyone that thinks it's 'uncomfortable' for them to pull themselves away from their American Idol tv show OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES. We have kids getting parts of their BODIES blown to BITS and worse. And you can't make time to hold up a sign. F.U. Yeah, you know what I mean. I think it is appalling that we have a candidate that is 72 years old and willing to give up his retirement time. When most seniors are out fishing, RP flys from one end of the country to another to spread the word of FREEDOM. Now how about it (your city). You want to lay around clicking on endless poles. Go to H___. Sorry, I know two families already devasted by the loss of their sons. And I have a friend over there right now serving. He sent a hand written letter home telling that if it wasn't for his faith in Jesus, he would go insane over there. He says the mayhem, blood and guts, and corruption is awful. I want to get him home NOW. Not next month, not next year. NOW! He's got a wife that you better believe her faith is being tested.

And we have trouble getting people out to a meetup event. What the heck are we waiting for. Maybe we are to smug in thinking that we have plenty of time. Let someone else do it. Oh, no. I'm not letting you off the hook. It is people like you, yeah you, that sit back and say, 'Ahh, my civil rights are okay.' I can still go out and have my fun.' You're the ones that got us into this mess (and I'll put myself in this same category) and it HAS to be us that raise such a ruckus that we get RP in the White House.

And no I'm not finished. To the lardasses that think that it doesn't make a difference, let me tell you a story. This past Monday we had our biggest turn out ever for sign waiving. 45 people toughed it out through rain to YELL RON PAUL at the top of their lungs and pass out literature along the busiest street in Orlando. We had lots of fun. Handed out all the litereature we had. Made some new friends and went home satisfied. Three days later one of the volunteers went to a city that was 20 miles away to oversee service work at a sub station for his company. He OF COURSE asks the tech that showed up to do the work, "Can I take a minute of your time to tell you about presidential candidate Ron Paul?" Guy says, 'Hmm You know I just saw some people in Orlando waiving signs about him just a couple days ago." My friend says, "Well I was one of those people." So don't tell me that this stuff doesn't work.

You leader commend the living tar out of any member that sacrafices time for the campaign. But by golly, you make sure that every member within earshot of your meeting knows that we are at a deadly serious work here. We are attempting nothing less than a non violent revolution. Great movements of the past called for great orators. I don't have to remind you of who they are. Now go out there and fire up your troops.

I gotta stop typing now because my keyboard is smokin'

I'm not going to proof read this at all. What I wrote is what I feel. Talk to anyone in our meetup. I pull no punches. But I tell you with tears in my eyes. We've got some of the best people volunteering that I've EVER had the pleasure to have met. And at 52 years of age I've met quite a few. They deserve the very BEST that I have to offer. They'll get it too.

Nick Egoroff
Orlando Ron Paul 2008 Organizer
http://ronpaul.meetup.com/184/

<standing ovation> Well said!</standing ovation>
 
all this week I worked at a Ron Paul booth (financed by volunteers) at the Pottawatomie County Fair (the city of Council Bluffs, Iowa). we were the only booth for a specific candidate, but the dems and reps had booths too. we found RP supporters working in the dem booth, but not the rep booth.

We handed out so many fliers, brochures, stickers, and pamphlets. I sold some t-shirts and yard signs (financed and contributed by our meetup members). But MOST of the people I talked to hadn't even HEARD of ron paul and seemed incredibly passive. Of the maybe 50-80% of them who accepted literature, probably only 30% of them read it.

Honestly this bummed me out. So many people seemed uninterested, willingly ignorant, or seriously blindly conservative ("I watch fox news for 12-14 hours a day, so if ron paul ever did anything good I would know! he's nothing but another liberal democrat!")

I knew what to say. I had great lines prepared. I knew what to say to every reply. I was proud of myself and the people who worked with me. We were aggressive but very friendly. It was a great week for us.

There WERE some people who came around or were already supporters--particularly the Sturgis people. Motorcycle dudes. There was a HUGE sturgis booth/turnout at this fair and most of them seemed interested. They even took lots of signs, literature, and buttons to put in THEIR sturgis booth (which was a huge attraction). Mrs. Paul even showed up on Thursday night!!!!!! TOTALLY UNEXPECTED.

But honestly, personally, I feel a little unsure about Ron Paul's turnout at the Straw Poll. The Iowans I talked to were not completely receptive.

Halp! I need cheering up!
 
Excellent advice everybody. I really think some kind of instruction list should be compiled that would provide easy access to the methods necessary to get the most participation out of a Meetup group. Maybe it could be stickied in one of the sections.
 
I started my own meetup a month ago.

Here's our booth at the local fair. Local news papers are the way to go.
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"Tell those whiners to hit the delete key" :rolleyes:

Yeah, if they don't want to hear about me teaching my cat to say Ron Paul, screw them!

Or people could utilize these tools responsibly and have some respect for those whose help they desire to enlist.
 
I think one important factor to a successful group would be to get alternate contact methods for people who are willing to give it. E-mails are easy to ignore, but not text messages blowing up your phone. Obviously you should only be texting people who chose to opt in to such a thing.
 
Hang in there, Megan. The ads are coming soon and my understanding is that close to 13,000 DVDs were handed out this weekend. There's also a group of people going door-to-door handing out literature, isn't there?

You did great. All we can do is what we can do.
 
I agree that it seems that if you have lets say our group in sarasota florida has 75 ppl now and we have decreased in turnouts for sign wavings. but our group has diversified ..mutated if u will our core group has splintered to start a group in venice , bradenton , punta gorta and talk of a regonal group to incompus us all. i know some of our ppl had vacation they were going on .and its hot here in florida but i make every meet up i can ...........your concerns have merit.. keep up the good work and they will return to the fold. RP08
 
The keys to getting people off their computers are the same for any kind of promotional events:

1. Women. Women like meeting men, and men like meeting women. Married people like meeting other RP supporters.

2. Drinks. Go out for drinks afterwards. Builds a sense of community.

3. Song. People like music. Fundraisers are great for this.
 
Keep up the good fight everbody!!

We handed out so many fliers, brochures, stickers, and pamphlets. I sold some t-shirts and yard signs (financed and contributed by our meetup members). But MOST of the people I talked to hadn't even HEARD of ron paul and seemed incredibly passive. Of the maybe 50-80% of them who accepted literature, probably only 30% of them read it.

Honestly this bummed me out. So many people seemed uninterested, willingly ignorant, or seriously blindly conservative


But honestly, personally, I feel a little unsure about Ron Paul's turnout at the Straw Poll. The Iowans I talked to were not completely receptive.

Halp! I need cheering up!

megan

I feel your pain!
The Bradenton Florida meet up group had a booth this weekend at the suncoast gun show. We ha a lot of good responses. the vendors were very receptive around us and helped by returning some of our discarded campaign fliers .I also rescued some from the refuge for recycling:)
My speculated reasons for People not receptive to the Ron Paul Message.
1.They are very sleepy and refuse to wake up.
2.pre occupied by the though of which Simpson's rerun would be showing twice tonight.
3. you can add more if you want

Some people said they like RP but didn't think he would make it .We proceeded to inform them we were volunteers for the campaign and how much the areas support has grown since its beginnings 6 weeks ago. Also that the majority of us had never been politically active none the less donated to a campaign before ,and the amount of personal time and money we put in to bring the message out.Then I would ask if they would at least give him a vote in the primary .THEIR RESPONSE WAS ALWAYS YES.
Watch some campaign videos of supporters...be positive .. keep up the good work........


RP
08
 
megan

I feel your pain!
The Bradenton Florida meet up group had a booth this weekend at the suncoast gun show. We ha a lot of good responses. the vendors were very receptive around us and helped by returning some of our discarded campaign fliers .I also rescued some from the refuge for recycling:)
My speculated reasons for People not receptive to the Ron Paul Message.
1.They are very sleepy and refuse to wake up.
2.pre occupied by the though of which Simpson's rerun would be showing twice tonight.
3. you can add more if you want

Some people said they like RP but didn't think he would make it .We proceeded to inform them we were volunteers for the campaign and how much the areas support has grown since its beginnings 6 weeks ago. Also that the majority of us had never been politically active none the less donated to a campaign before ,and the amount of personal time and money we put in to bring the message out.Then I would ask if they would at least give him a vote in the primary .THEIR RESPONSE WAS ALWAYS YES.
Watch some campaign videos of supporters...be positive .. keep up the good work........


RP
08

I think the main reason why they are not receptive is because they do not see RP on TV. This is why I think we need to do something radical, to get noticed by the TV people. A march Across America Tour for Ron Paul, or something like that.
 
Solution to dead weight

I had similar problem but it's gotten much better since I assigned useful tasks that do not require facing the public. I don't know how people could be so afraid (God, I used to sell vacuuum cleaners door-to-door when I was in college!)...but it is a reality.

What I do is pester the dead weight to contribute a few bucks to the group fund and I ask them to mail out our Ron Paul Postcards. The mail Iowa program also got a lot of these shy folks involved. We were able to put out 800 letters with many of these "sleeper" members buying their own stamps!

The success of Mail Iowa leads me to believe that direct mail is the best way to get shy sleepers activated.

One more observation of a problem that pissed some of my group off. The Meetup e-mails and responses can inundate mailboxes and turn people away. MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE KNOWS that they can adjust their e-mail settings..

Click on "Account" at top of page...Then click on "Membership/Communications"...then selct option to receive all e-mails as they come...or just receive one daily e-mail conating all the day's e-mails.

This e-mail thing does piss some people off and its so easy to address. Tell your new members about this as soon as they join.

Beyond that, I think you will see that if RP starts to make some waves, then all of your "'I like RP but he can't win" members will wake from their slumber.

It's unfortunate because if the 30,000 Meetup members really got committed....this thing would really catch fire.. All we can do is keep stoking
 
Changing the mail options to use the daily digest is a good idea, but then if people are sending email about every time Ron Paul sneezes, then there's still a lot to sort through to find out when the events are happening, which is what we signed up for.

My biggest problem was the lack of organization. We're meeting here, 5 minutes later we're meeting there, 10 minutes later, we meeting earlier.

Make your plan, solidify it and then send out the notice, lots of people won't/can't continually reshuffle their schedules to suit organizers who can't make up their minds.
 
Changing the mail options to use the daily digest is a good idea, but then if people are sending email about every time Ron Paul sneezes, then there's still a lot to sort through to find out when the events are happening, which is what we signed up for.

My biggest problem was the lack of organization. We're meeting here, 5 minutes later we're meeting there, 10 minutes later, we meeting earlier.

Make your plan, solidify it and then send out the notice, lots of people won't/can't continually reshuffle their schedules to suit organizers who can't make up their minds.

We just need instructions on how to reply. If someone sends something out on a mass mailing, and someone is interested, they don't have to send out another mass mailing as a reply. They can be shown how to contact individually that person who sent out the initial mass mailing.
 
We just need instructions on how to reply. If someone sends something out on a mass mailing, and someone is interested, they don't have to send out another mass mailing as a reply. They can be shown how to contact individually that person who sent out the initial mass mailing.

Yes! Unfortunately, the reply-to address is the list address so users would have to replace it with the senders email address, which is listed in from: field and in the notice at the bottom. A lot of people just don't think of it.

The replies are not as bad as just the non-event related stuff.
 
Just a word of encouragement in the southwest. I'm told that the San Diego meetup continues to grow in numbers AND participation. This past meeting was my first but everyone said the numbers were getting better. We had about 25 people at the last meetup and everyone was very enthusiastically involved.
 
Our group's turnout has been been in the 10-15% range. I think the Meetup groups need to mix in some fun events for people to get to know each other, along with the hardcore campaigning.
 
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