McCain and Schumer Move to Force Americans to Use Biometric ID for Employment

[Anti Federalist]

Were the average people to discern the truly frightful positions they occupy in this scheme of things, the nation would self destruct in a hard-wired, mid-brain frenzy of blind and flesh-borne panic.

Hold...

 

[Henry Rogue]

Here we go.......

Did any of these a$$ clowns read "1984"? You all know they are not going to let anyone collect SS without that card let alone work with out it. I wish I was born in an earlier era. I might sell the house, work for room and board, barter the rest and say to he!! with SS.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Did any of these a$$ clowns read "1984".

Of course they did. Where do you think they get their ideas?

 

[Mach]

May be a little off topic here, but, they already have your neighbors, "helping."

Just regular old "McCain & Schumer" Americans...

 

[Danke]

May be a little off topic here, but, they already have your neighbors, "helping."

Just regular old "McCain & Schumer" Americans...

I've used this. I love jumping jacks.

 

[Slutter McGee]

I am one of the most moderate people in here, not in my language (I am a complete fucking dick with that), but in my beliefs. I don't like talk of succession. I don't like negative threads about police. I don't think there is some coming revolution. I dislike the patriot movement. I don't like threats of violence against the government. But.....I will not comply with this. I will not.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

 

[Danke]

I dislike the patriot movement.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

What is wrong with the "patriot movement?"

 

[Anti Federalist]

I am one of the most moderate people in here, not in my language (I am a complete fucking dick with that), but in my beliefs. I don't like talk of succession. I don't like negative threads about police. I don't think there is some coming revolution. I dislike the patriot movement. I don't like threats of violence against the government. But.....I will not comply with this. I will not.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

Then you have, whether you like it or not, aligned yourself with all those things you professed to disapprove of.

Welcome aboard brother.

 

[mad cow]

I am one of the most moderate people in here, not in my language (I am a complete fucking dick with that), but in my beliefs. I don't like talk of succession. I don't like negative threads about police. I don't think there is some coming revolution. I dislike the patriot movement. I don't like threats of violence against the government. But.....I will not comply with this. I will not.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

And I won't surrender my guns.

So....Where does this leave us?

 

[satchelmcqueen]

only 1 guy seemed to know the right way here, but in the end, failed anyway. id have told the cop that his proof was probably trumped up, and to fuck off.

May be a little off topic here, but, they already have your neighbors, "helping."

Just regular old "McCain & Schumer" Americans...

 

[Pauls' Revere]

OMG!! this should be enough to make you vomit!

If Schumer and McCain have their way, American citizens will need to submit to the government fingerprints or other biometric information if they want to be legally employed. In other words, citizens will not only be required to get government permission to work, they will also be obliged to submit biometric data to the surveillance state.

“National ID cards and the databases behind them comprise the cornerstone of government surveillance systems that creates risks to privacy and anonymity,” notes the Electronic Frontier Foundation. “The requirement to produce identity cards on demand habituates citizens into participating in their own surveillance and social control.”

Submitted biodata will make it easier for the government to accomplish geolocation tracking and use video surveillance and facial recognition software. Moreover, it will allow the government to deny employment to people it designates as political troublemakers, otherwise known as terrorists.


EERRR!!

 

[DamianTV]

So even if you do submit, they still got you by the balls!

 

[devil21]

On second look, I must have missed the "official" source on this claim. Anybody have something other than infowars hearsay?

 

[tod evans]

At least McPain has cancer so shouldn't be a pain in our side much longer.

-t

It would be just if he was limited to aspirin and tylenol during his last stage........

You know what a problem prescription pain-killers are...

He can handle it though after being held "hostage" (joke/joke-cough/cough) in Viet-Nam....

 

[pcosmar]

On second look, I must have missed the "official" source on this claim. Anybody have something other than infowars hearsay?

http://www.cato.org/blog/were-going-have-come-something
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/31/immigration-reform-biometric-id_n_2594285.html
http://www.biometricupdate.com/201302/american-senators-push-for-biometrics/
http://www.planetbiometrics.com/article-details/i/1461/

very little on any MSM "news" source,(I wonder why that is), but there is this.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...p-has-picked-up-its-pace-on-immigration-bill/

Both men also endorsed a new biometric Social Security card for use by all Americans seeking employment. The goal would be to thwart illegal immigration in the future by making it harder to forge a Social Security card and easier for employers to verify the legal status of their workers.

Schumer insisted the card would be used only for employment and not as a general identification. But he acknowledged differing opinions within the Senate’s working group on the issue and said they had not yet decided whether to include it in the bill.

Obama also called for a tamper-proof Social Security cards in the White House immigration proposal released Monday. Civil libertarian groups and some conservatives, however, have expressed concern that the new card would wind up being uses as a national ID card.

http://www.openmarket.org/2013/02/01/the-new-national-identification-system-is-coming/
http://www.computerworld.com.au/art..._id_rules_could_hard_sell_immigration_reform/

 

[pacelli]

Congress is a complete embarrassment. May God have mercy on our once great Republic.

 

[DaninPA]

I fucking hate John McCain with every fiber of my being.

^Pretty much this.^

 

[Lucille]

The New National Identification System Is Coming
http://www.openmarket.org/2013/02/01/the-new-national-identification-system-is-coming/

“Maybe we should just brand all the babies.” With this joke, Ronald Reagan swatted down a national identification card — or an enhanced Social Security card — proposed by his attorney general in 1981. For more than three decades since, attempts to implement the proposal have all met with failure, but now national ID is back, and it’s worse than ever.

As in 1981, immigration restrictions have provided the justification. In the name of stopping illegal employment, proposals floated by a bipartisan group of senators would create both a physical national ID — an “enhanced” Social Security card — and even more menacingly an Internet-based, electronic ID that could be accessed anywhere to confirm identity.

After the election, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), who is leading the Democrats immigration push, told NBC News that one of his top priorities was to “make sure that there is a non-forgeable document” for all employees. After years of pushing for one, Sen. Schumer may have broken through GOP opposition. “We’re going to have to come up with something, but the principle we all agree on,” Sen. Chuck Schumer said this week.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) told Politico that he was for “a super Social Security card that would have some sort of biometric things like a fingerprint in it.” Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-S.C.)—also, a longtime supporter of national ID — agrees. “You’ll have documents that can’t be faked,” he told CBS News after the election.

This path was the inevitable consequence of America’s broken immigration system. First, Congress made it prohibitively difficult to come. Then, unable to enforce that, they conscripted businessmen to police their workforce for them. Now that document fraud has ruined this scheme, the government wants even more surveillance.

But national ID is more than just a card with a name and number — it is a system. It must contain data collected by the government on every legal worker that compares that name and number to you. This means the federal government must start collecting biometric information: pictures, fingerprints, retina scans, DNA, and whatever else is needed to make the system work.

Even worse than a physical card, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and Social Security Administration (SSA) has created an electronic national ID called electronic employment verification (EEV). The current rendition is known as E-Verify, which has combined DHS’s immigration database with the SSA’s database, containing your name, address, legal status, work authorization, and social security number.

The Senate immigration bill will mandate all employers use E-Verify to check the immigration status of their employees. Right now, employers can voluntarily submit the employee’s name and number to check if they match the name and number in the system. If the names or numbers don’t match, you must take further steps to prove your identity at SSA offices.

The system creates a guilty-until-proven-innocent approach to employment that also allows DHS to monitor every worker throughout the country. Some proposed mandates would require employees who work multiple jobs to automatically visit SSA offices — the new DMVs of employment — to prove that they really do work both jobs.

“People say ‘National ID,’ ” Sen. Schumer told Politico. “[But] that’s a card that you’d have to show whenever anyone, a police officer or anyone came up to you.” Actually, that’s not true. National ID is any mandatory system that could identify you at any given time. E-Verify combined with biometrics from state DMVs or elsewhere would meet that definition.

National ID need not be shown every time you go outside — it could just be used at checkpoints, airports, and toll booths or to access the Internet, firearms, prescription drugs, jobsites, or apartment buildings. Both the federal government and several states already prohibit renting to unauthorized immigrants. Potential tenants may soon be required to pass E-Verify to obtain housing with a similar “multiple homes” check.

To argue that the same expansion of use — already being applied to the SS card — will not also apply to E-Verify is not believable. The calls for a national ID — electronic or otherwise — by these senators undermine their credibility when they claim their plan will actually stop illegal entries at the border. If it did, national ID and E-Verify would be unnecessary. America needs immigration reform, but what it doesn’t need is more bureaucracy and universal surveillance.

 

[BlackJack]

Next thing you know we're all gonna have highly-advanced kill chips, equipped with GPS capabilities, surgically embedded in our spines so we can't get them out.

Gosh I'm starting to side with Alex Jones and his army of radical conspiracy theorists now.

 

[Anti Federalist]

“People say ‘National ID,’ ” Sen. Schumer told Politico. “[But] that’s a card that you’d have to show whenever anyone, a police officer or anyone came up to you.”

Cops in NYC have done exactly that, to millions of innocent people, in a program you endorse, you treasonous, lying, fuckstick you.