maybe we SHOULD write him in

[jkr]

 

[WarAnonymous]

h xxp://www.jimconditjr.com/

^^^ I see alot of this kind of stuff popping up all over about him. Do you have the run down on this?

 

[sailingaway]

I'm sure going to write him in. I figure even if it is just counted as rejection of the other choices, that says what I think about the legitimacy of the way the candidates are shoved down our throats.

 

[sailingaway]

h xxp://www.jimconditjr.com/

^^^ I see alot of this kind of stuff popping up all over about him. Do you have the run down on this?

Wow, well the one thing you can tell is someone hates him and wants to smear him, from that page. It could be true it could be false, but I couldn't care less. I'm writing in Ron Paul for RON PAUL not for this unknown guy who made a youtube video.


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edit, it looks from google like he ran for Congress on the Constitution Party ticket. don't know if that would cause someone to try to smear him, or if that stuff is true, but we know people do try to smear good people, if they think they are 'stealing' votes, and that video doesn't sound racist in any way, the part I listened to, it just sounds like he is concerned about vote fraud. In any event, I don't care about his history, because he has nothing to do with why I am doing it.

 

[WarAnonymous]

Yeah agreed, I am kind of trying to find out if it's true or not. That doesn't affect my write in choice I am just curious. He ran against Boehner

 

[MelissaCato]

We can do this !! Come on people !! This land is your land, this land is my land !! All your base are belong to US !!

 

[chudrockz]

I went to a concert the other night and a guy was handing out flyers for the "Grassroots" Presidential candidate. Slight chance I might vote that way, I guess. But the nice thing is, it appears to be an exact copy of the ballot that I will use next month. There are at least two or three parties there that I've never heard of. I might have to do some research tonight on those.

 

[kathy88]

I am fortunate enough to live in PA where the votes will be recorded. Write in FTW. NOBP

 

[opal]

so.. this send an aftadavit request.. ? Anyone really think that will matter?

 

[RDM]

Why don't you all join the CEO of overstock.com?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4FEsypwkkYg

 

[Todd]

I'm really having a hard time with this decision. I told myself for over a year I was writing Paul in. But my state throws all write ins who did not qualify in the trash.

Now I have to figure if I'll pull the lever for Virgil Goode, Gary Johnson, stay home or buck up and write in a vote that goes down the memory hole.

 

[sailingaway]

so.. this send an aftadavit request.. ? Anyone really think that will matter?

you can do one. it doesn't 'matter' but if enough more people swear they voted for him than are counted it might force a recount. The problem is, people mostly don't do the affidavits, so they don't have more affidavits than votes. His angle from the part of the video I watched, seemed to be the insecurity of the ballot counting process.

I think we could collect our own ballots and post the total on his youtube, though, not send everyone's personal information to someone we don't know, if anyone wanted to go that route.

 

[sailingaway]

I'm really having a hard time with this decision. I told myself for over a year I was writing Paul in. But my state throws all write ins who did not qualify in the trash.

Now I have to figure if I'll pull the lever for Virgil Goode, Gary Johnson, stay home or buck up and write in a vote that goes down the memory hole.

It's illegal to throw votes in the trash. What state are you in? Because every state I have checked counts the 'undervote' which is the number of people who DO vote, but don't vote for the presidential office. If that number is large, imho it is the next best thing, because it says you reject all the choices and consider them illegitimate, imho. I expect us to be able to write Ron in in our state, but even if we couldn't I WOULD vote - to show I'm not just apathetic (besides there's other stuff to vote on) and would write in Ron Paul in any event, to have it counted in the 'none of the above category', knowing I'd have to look it up on their web page after the election.

 

[ninepointfive]

G Johnson

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Even though I live in Illinois, I just cannot come to terms with voting for Gary Johnson. If the LP is going to have any relevancy in the future, I want them to actually practice what they preach: nominate a libertarian (emphasis on the small "l"). NOBP for me.

 

[Todd]

It's illegal to throw votes in the trash. What state are you in? Because every state I have checked counts the 'undervote' which is the number of people who DO vote, but don't vote for the presidential office. If that number is large, imho it is the next best thing, because it says you reject all the choices and consider them illegitimate, imho. I expect us to be able to write Ron in in our state, but even if we couldn't I WOULD vote - to show I'm not just apathetic (besides there's other stuff to vote on) and would write in Ron Paul in any event, to have it counted in the 'none of the above category', knowing I'd have to look it up on their web page after the election.

That's what I mean. The "none of the above" category. I live in Va. Apparently if you haven't filed in the particular state, they don't really matter. At least that's what I understand.

 

[sailingaway]

That's what I mean. The "none of the above" category. I live in Va. Apparently if you haven't filed in the particular state, they don't really matter. At least that's what I understand.

do third party votes 'really matter'? Only if the number is large. I'd love Ron on the ballot (and hope, here, to at least get his write ins to count), but barring that, saying I don't like the others fits best, imho, and you do have to actually vote for the others, to show rejection of the Presidential candidates (by writing Ron in or leaving it blank).

I agree the choices suck.

 

[CaseyCBenn]

Did anyone think of starting a website that counts unique clicks that would tally up all those who vote for Ron Paul write in or Gary Johnson or anyone else for that matter?

A public way of counting votes going in. A way to compare the "publicized results" from the MSM to something else?

Kind of like the internet petitions that you sign your name to. It would remove the privacy part of voting but the enemies of the constitution have been using that as a crutch for too long.

I am always trying to think of away of checking the accountability in elections after what we saw this year.

People were able to really see the problems in states like Maine where you could literally count the votes plainly and had a difficult time hiding fraud. Same for Nevada where when the count was allowed you could clearly see that Ron Paul was winning.

You know that no matter how many times the MSM tries to plant the idea that Ron Paul was never getting the majority vote you couldn't help but notice his 2nd place status nearly everywhere.... except for the places they actually counted the ballots publicly.

I was just listening to Geraldo Rivera on 790 KABC on the way to work and he asked this lady who she was voting for when she criticized Romney. She said she is voting Gary Johnson. Immediately Geraldo chastised her saying "hahaha, oh you are throwing your vote away?". To which she replied "I am voting my conscience".

I can't help but think that these tv and radio hosts are paid to say things like that.

 

[sailingaway]

'clicks' are hard to make truly unique without an IP block as I understand it, and even then someone could use both phone and computer, and ipad, or someone else's who just doesn't care. The affidavit bit is more reliable because it can be double checked against the named registered voter in the event of audit. But unless there are a ton, I don't know if people will pay attention. If I thought Ron would WIN California with write ins and it was just not going to be counted, I might do that, the affidavit thing. but anything on the internet will be discounted, I'm pretty sure.

I have no problem with someone doing that, if they want to, but people would have to find it and vote there.

 

[CaseyCBenn]

Yeah, I am not too concerned with defending one particular method. I just want accountability somehow.

There is no way "We the People" are going to have any say in our government without the ability to truly see what is actually happening.

I honestly think that Ron Paul was way more popular and had way more people supporting him then the media was reporting.

It was evident in the way they reported on Iowa.

IF Paul had won they would have downplayed it and began to saying its just a "straw poll". Since Bachmann did they reported how "well" she did with no mention of it only being a straw poll.

Unless someone begins making an effort to stop carloads of people running off with the votes to count them in a hidden location then we will never get rid of the problem.

The sooner everyone jumps on board, no only by becoming elected to important spots, which the GOP seems to unravel anyways, but by, like Ron Paul, shining a light on the problem areas, the sooner people can start achieving real liberty.