Master Cleanse (maple syrup, lemon/lime juice, red pepper & water)

[Danke]

What..? Am I going to be like you if I do this diet?

Just do it and stop asking questions. If you don't like it, quit, pretty fucking simple.

 

[Met Income]

Just do it and stop asking questions. If you don't like it, quit, pretty fucking simple.

Ah, the irony of someone telling me to "stop asking questions" on a RPF board.

 

[Danke]

Ah, the irony of someone telling me to "stop asking questions" on a RPF board.

What, you can't read the many pages addressing all of this? Do you think you are going to die immediately from trying the MC after many have already said they were on it for over 4 weeks? Links to numerous resources also provided.

Let me repeat: Links to numerous resources also provided

Yeah, keep questioning and get no where, that's the ticket.

 

[AdamT]

MC is awesome. I always feel re-energized and have a clear head. Get tons of energy back and a PMA.

I find it amazing you can wake up in the morning with a complete sense of calm and no hunger.

 

[cradle2graveconservative]

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[Danke]

He could very well die immediately from starting the master cleanse route. People do not come from the same mold, they don't all fit one model, they can't be grouped together in situations like this.

Lets say he has diabetes, he could indeed die or cause serious and permanent damage within days of starting master cleanse. But wait, is it Type I or Type II diabetes, and is it in the early stages or late stages? That could make all the difference in the world as the the scale of the effect (if any)! If he stops taking insulin to go on this diet, he could cause permanent damage to his organ systems within 24 hours (or less), descend into a diabetic coma shortly thereafter, and die.

Asking questions saves lives, telling people to shut up and do it is a great way hurt people when dealing with a complex physiological system.

I love strawberries.

Oh wait, someone might have the remote chance of being allergic to strawberries. Stop all investigation into eating strawberries, someone might recommend they are beneficial.

Let's not judge for ourselves the pros and cons from the information laid out before us. Or see immediately how our bodies react.

Lowering caloric intake (the MC, ~900 calories per day) has killed how many people?

Are people that stupid here? Well cheers to Darwinism if that is the case.

I actually support thinning of the ignorant herd, so go for it...

 

[cradle2graveconservative]

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[dannno]

The idea that you think you can simplify diets to simple caloric intake reveals where the real ignorance lies. If all survival based on eating involved was taking calories in, I should be able to survive solely on a shots of vodka every day (1 shot has about 90 calories depending on the brand) I will quite quickly die from dehydration and/or alcohol poisoning.

Sigh..

That is why you drink plenty of water in this diet, and Grade B or C maple syrup contains all of the calories AND nutrients one needs for quite a while.

Oh ya, this isn't a diet where you lose fat, this is a diet where you clean out your intestines of all the rotting, nasty processed crap that we may have been exposed to. I know it works because I have seen it work first hand. Liquid drano. That is the weight you lose, and that is what increases metabolism in the longterm and one would expect to lose the fat after the diet. Energy levels rise immensely after the diet for everyone I've ever heard about going on it. And I'm talking about waking up relatively early in the morning without feeling tired at all. I have never felt that feeling since I was a child, it was a pretty amazing feeling. Stopped drinking coffee, still don't. Energy levels are still up, but not what they were after the diet. This was about 3 or 4 years ago.

 

[cradle2graveconservative]

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[lucius]

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[Todd]

What I'm saying is, this isn't a healthy thing. You're body isn't meant to be starved periodically.

At the end of the day, this is a starvation diet.

Yep.....You're right to be wary of "diets" like this one. The body detoxifies itself. It's called digestion and that's what the stomach and intestines, liver and kidneys are designed to do. It's putting the Western diet throught this digestive system that is the problem.

I've met so many people that do this cleanse....and it hasn't done a darn thing in the long run. If you want to see examples of people who have more energy, less weight and the healthiest lifestyles.... etc... Look at the Okinawans or the Sardinians or people who live in the rain forests of Costa Rica....There's a study on it called the Blue zones.
Simply following a diet consisting of as little processed food as possible and as much natural foods is still the best method of longevity and health and cleansing ourselves of our toxic lifestyles. Vegetables, Legumes, fruits, and whole wheat products.....oily fish and limiting red meat.

 

[Met Income]

What, you can't read the many pages addressing all of this? Do you think you are going to die immediately from trying the MC after many have already said they were on it for over 4 weeks? Links to numerous resources also provided.

Let me repeat: Links to numerous resources also provided

Yeah, keep questioning and get no where, that's the ticket.

Who said I was going to die immediately? Quote me. Please don't put words in my mouth.

Which of my questions have been addressed?

 

[orafi]

First of all, it was an analogy. Indeed you can survive on very few calories for very long periods of time if you have water. I could have made an equivalent analogy of a 2 liter bottle of Coke, where dehydration wasn't the immediate danger. The idea was to demonstrate that calories alone are not enough.

I'm also not sure what you mean by "quite a while." Maybe I'm looking at the wrong brands, but there's a distinct lack of Vitamin C in maple syrup. That's OK though, I hear scurvy isn't that bad. There also doesn't appear to be a whole lot of Vitamin B, but anemia isn't a real condition anyway.

I'm not trying to say that a 10 day deprivation of these, or indeed anything besides water will have effects temporarily or permanently. What I'm saying is, this isn't a healthy thing. You're body isn't meant to be starved periodically. You can probably recover every time, and you might not even be the worse off for it. I can also break my arm multiple times and let it heal and not be the worse off for it. In fact, people who practice various martial arts actually see benefits from breaking/shattering their hands repeatedly on wood/concrete. That information doesn't mean you should go punch the nearest brick wall you can find.

At the end of the day, this is a starvation diet. The majority of the weight lost is water weight, which is gained back as soon as the fasting stops. Other weight loss can be associated with the degradation of your lean muscle which your body consumes to compensate for the lack of nutrients in your diet. If you truly want to believe that you have pounds of buildup in your intestines, I won't be able to sway you simply by saying "that isn't true." Unfortunately I don't have journal articles at my fingertips to point to either, though I'll certainly be on the lookout when I have some free time. I can only say what I do based on experience, and I've seen quite a few colonoscopies (watch for yourself YouTube - 3 minutes Total Colonoscopy:TCS) and there's a disturbing lack of well...anything in a healthy colon. Any buildups are generally very small (on the order of ounces) and constitute quite a bit of pain. By the time things that can be digested reach your colon (e.g. meats) they're simply a wetter form of fecal matter. You're colon reabsorbs most of that moisture along with some nutrients and salts. There isn't a buildup of undigested meat in your colon, ruffage (some vegetables, fiber, etc.) is the only thing that passes through you essentially unchanged.

News flash - Lemon juice has vitamin C OMG!

And are you telling me I lost 10 pounds of water from my system? I would have died from the MC, lol. But I shouldn't continue in the presence of an expert, of course.

 

[terryhamel]

Chronic illness finds cure

My health has been declining since youth. It started with mild asthma, then pollen allergies, pneumonia, then wheezing, chest tightening, crinkling lung sacs, swelling, food allergies, then paralysis. I'd been getting more sick for more time every year. I've been on a raw diet for 20 years, done liver and colon cleanses, but only got more sick. What was going on?

Per a friend's suggestion, I saw a Kineselogist. She found I had metal toxicity that deposited near my tailbone, kidney, lungs, and brain. All these become infected, injure and dislocate the organs.

She also found my lymph node system was 90% clogged. That system moves white blood cells to fight infections. When it becomes clogged, it becomes harder to recover and at 100% clogged, death is right around the corner.

The answer lied with the philosophy that you MUST OPEN THE EXITS BEFORE YOU RELEASE TOXINS. The lymph node flush was paramount so that when I do the other cleanses, I don't just resettle the toxins in the body. The lymph node flush is simple, but the order of the process must be followed.

Start upon waking. Do not eat or drink anything prior to flush.

1) Juice 32 oz of raw citrus juice (grapefruit, pineapple, etc)
2) Heat up the bathroom like a sauna.
3) Dry scrub the skin, starting from the limb extremes and move towards the heart. Get all surfaces. Do in an X shape, e.g. left arm, right leg, right arm, left leg
4) Apply green clay everywhere to absorb toxins stirred up by scrub. Wait 10-15 minutes.
5) Rinse clay in hot-warm shower.
6) Soak in hot-warm bath with essential oils for 10-15 minutes.
7) Rinse in cold-warm shower.

Drink juice during process. Drink water (filtered, of course) if you need more liquid. Drink soups and eat raw. Be prepared to expel in a hurry.

I did this twice a day for two days and watched my eyes and skin become clearer, swelling recede dramatically, paralysis disappear, was able to work outside in a pollen infested the day after. I had an abundance of energy and mental clarity. This was just the first step, however. Specific cleanses over the next few months to follow.

 

[cradle2graveconservative]

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[Henry]

Any thoughts on the MC program when an individual has diverticulitis?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Natalie]

Ok, so I decided to try the master cleanse. I was going to start today but I'm not starting until Monday now because I have dinner plans tonight that I can't back out of (I tried). I did the salt water thing this morning and it was so disgusting! I divided it into two glasses to try and make it easier to drink. That didn't work. I plugged my nose and drank the first glass without any problems, but halfway through my second glass I threw up in the sink. I might try the salt water thing again on Monday if I forget how horrible it was. Otherwise, I will skip that part and just drink the lemonade.

 

[SelfTaught]

Ok, so I decided to try the master cleanse. I was going to start today but I'm not starting until Monday now because I have dinner plans tonight that I can't back out of (I tried). I did the salt water thing this morning and it was so disgusting! I divided it into two glasses to try and make it easier to drink. That didn't work. I plugged my nose and drank the first glass without any problems, but halfway through my second glass I threw up in the sink. I might try the salt water thing again on Monday if I forget how horrible it was.

This is a long thread that I would be a pain to read through, but drinking salt water can be harmful. I don't know how much salt you're using but if it's anything near sea water, you're doing harm to yourself.

I've never done colon cleansing intentionally before, but I know that there is a pasta-like seaweed product that we eat for Chinese New Year. It's called fat-choy and it's looks like black strands of hair. It's much thinner than angelhair pasta. After eating lots of it in soup and stir-fried with mushrooms, dried oysters, dried dates, and bok-choy or napa cabbage, I was completely cleared out. Like pasta, it expands when soaked in liquid, except your body doesn't completely digest it. So when it is in your stomach and intestines it scrapes your shit clean. I'll do some more research later.

 

[Natalie]

This is a long thread that I would be a pain to read through, but drinking salt water can be harmful. I don't know how much salt you're using but if it's anything near sea water, you're doing harm to yourself.

I've never done colon cleansing intentionally before, but I know that there is a pasta-like seaweed product that we eat for Chinese New Year. It's called fat-choy and it's looks like black strands of hair. It's much thinner than angelhair pasta. After eating lots of it in soup and stir-fried with mushrooms, dried oysters, dried dates, and bok-choy or napa cabbage, I was completely cleared out. Like pasta, it expands when soaked in liquid, except your body doesn't completely digest it. So when it is in your stomach and intestines it scrapes your shit clean. I'll do some more research later.

The salt water is meant as a laxative and it cleans your intestines. Apparently, about an hour after you drink it, it all comes out the other end. :o

 

[AdamT]

Nat, when you drink the salt water pretend it's warm chicken broth. That's what I do. It tastes similar when drinking. Master Cleanse rules....I did it a couple months ago for 18 days.