Master Cleanse (maple syrup, lemon/lime juice, red pepper & water)

Day 17 for me and going really well. Today I started a batch of fermented cabbage
in my crockpot which should be ready in a couple of weeks. This is for my probiotics.

I really lucked out during this cleanse because there is a guy at our local farmers
market who lives in Florida and has quite a few lemon and orange tree's on his
property. He brought a truckload with him when he came back and so Ive been
getting non-commercial lemons and soon will be getting the oranges. These
lemons have twice the juice that the store bought ones have. It's been great.
I also lucked out and was able to get 3 bottles of grade C maple syrup which
is the syrup last made in the season and contains the most nutrients.


Waldo

Way to go Waldo!

Sounds like you are experiencing much synchronicity with the ingrediants...run with it for as long as you can. I found an interesting perspective, fasting over the holidays. I am three days into a seven day colon cleanse and NH provided some great insight into my first of series of liver flushes starting in about week. I will try to capture the stones and upload the pictures to this thread.

I am still just eating raw vegetable soups and fresh squeezed orange juice with probiotics. Feel great, rebuilding tissue and exercising. The mental aspect is the biggest boon from my fasting/cleansing. Stay the course and keep us informed.

ps: how do you make fermented cabbage?
 
It has been my experience that when under taking a fast it is wise to incorporate prayer and meditation.

The most inner part of us is our thoughts and thought have a very powerful effect on the body.

If you are going to cleanse might as well cleanse everything to get the full benefit.
 
Working Poor, yes I agree. And while cleansing my mind seems much more clear
and aware. Usually my mind is chaotic and it's difficult to focus on just one thing,
which makes meditation and prayer very difficult and frustrating at times.

Lucious, there are lots of ways to make fermented cabbage and other veggies,
but here is a good link: http://www.wildfermentation.com/resources.php?page=sauerkraut

You can buy it at the health food store but it is very expensive and you only get
a little jar of it. When you make it yourself you can spice it up however you want.
You can eat a bit with every meal or use it in dips. Whatever. I like to grind a bit up
and mix it with almond butter and spread on crackers. I know it sounds weird but
it's very good, tastes like a rich cheese spread. Mix nutritional yeast in it for more
of a cheese taste.


Waldo
 
Will this cause you to lose muscle mass? Can you still lift weights/workout while on this cleanse?
 
Will this cause you to lose muscle mass?

Yes, your body will start scavenging protein, at a rate of 50% fat to 50% protein. In fasting circles this is considered a good thing, because the body scavenges damaged tissued first. I noticed during my fast that I regained exceptional flexibility/range of motion. I think I lost much scar tissue built up from many orthopedic surgeries.

Can you still lift weights/workout while on this cleanse?

I don't think you would have any problem working out; might add additional maple syrup to counter the extra calories burned, depending on how hard you go at it (I used less syrup because I was concentrating on weight loss).

The real work begins after you break the fast and start rebuilding tissue with proper nutrition and exercise.

Here is a good post from the curezone.com by a mod named Pepe:


For you dieters out there you hafta keep in mind that there are no shortcuts or magic potions and that no form of fasting, water, Master Cleanse (MC) whatever were designed as weight loss diets, period. Fasting is meant to take the burden from digestion and all the energy that goes toward it and lets the body use that energy otherwse used for digestion to repair and heal itself. Stop looking at the numbers on the scale they are meaningless and you can easily become obsessed. You will know you are loosing weight by the way your clothes fit and most of all by the way you feel.

No amount of wishful thinking or misinformation will make any form of fasting a weight loss diet period. Fasting for weight loss is an inroad to eating disorders if you are not doing it with the full understanding that it is just a "tool" to clean out the system so the body will operate more efficiently and you can continue to loose weight safely and efficiently by the required lifestyle change. No if and or buts about it. If you go back to your old ways you >>WILL<< gain the weight back and possibly more because all forms of fasting will slow the metabolism. The catch and a prime reason that makes any form of fasting not a good weight loss diet is that most overweight folks metabolisms are already slow and if you don't incorporate regular exercise and lifestyle change after the fast the you will fail bringing you back to the beginning or worse and you'll be caught in a vicious cycle and the start of and eating disorder akin to binge and purge.

Because all forms of fasting are >>cleanses<< the body will do what it needs to do the most first. Often it will not be weight loss and there will be periods where you might not loose any weight so do yourselves a favor and stop looking and the numbers and press on knowing that you are doing yourselves a world of good and that you are attacking the "root causes" of obesity. Obesity is a "health issue"

Weight loss requires a >LIFESTYLE< change. It will require >>REGULAR EXERCISE< no if ands or buts about it. Exercise is the most efficient way to bring the metabolism back on line.

Another thing folks need to keep in mind is that 10 days is just the >MINIMUM< for an MC so don't expect any miracles. The body doesn't even start to get into deeper cleansing till day 8 +/- and around 15 +/- days before getting into the deeper cleansing at the cellular lever. Don't expect that you will clean out a lifetimes worth of abuse even with a 40 day MC. It's just a very good start and without the lifestyle and diet change and incorporating regular exercise you will go back where you started or worse. The MC does not CURE anything. There is no magic in the lemonade. It simply takes out the trash and allows the system to heal itself which is what all these cleanses do. Slow and gradual is the only road to "permanent healing/weight loss" there are no shortcuts or magic potions. Educate yourselves, focus, exercise regularly and most of all be patient.

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=265185#i

Here is the Master Cleanser Book in pdf to download: http://healthandlight.com/TheMasterCleanse.pdf

Here is a great Master Cleanse Support Forum: http://www.curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=478
 
Working Poor, yes I agree. And while cleansing my mind seems much more clear
and aware. Usually my mind is chaotic and it's difficult to focus on just one thing,
which makes meditation and prayer very difficult and frustrating at times.

Lucious, there are lots of ways to make fermented cabbage and other veggies,
but here is a good link: http://www.wildfermentation.com/resources.php?page=sauerkraut

You can buy it at the health food store but it is very expensive and you only get
a little jar of it. When you make it yourself you can spice it up however you want.
You can eat a bit with every meal or use it in dips. Whatever. I like to grind a bit up
and mix it with almond butter and spread on crackers. I know it sounds weird but
it's very good, tastes like a rich cheese spread. Mix nutritional yeast in it for more
of a cheese taste.


Waldo

Way cool! Thanks for the link. I have rock salt and Korean chili powder and want to make Kimchi.
 
My take on the workouts and lifting weights while on the master cleanse is that the purpose of
this cleanse is to allow the body to heal itself, get rid of all that junk. It does this because
the digestion system no longer needs to work which normally takes a lot of the bodies resources
and energy to work. So by working out a lot or lifting it seems to me that it steals the bodies
ability to heal itself just as using your digestion system to digest and transform the food did.

Also with lifting, I believe the purpose is to tear the muscle and then allow it to repair to become
stronger/bigger/harder. But it does need protein to do this repair so I don't think it would be a
great idea to lift while cleansing.

I think walking moderately for 2-3 miles a day, stretching, moderate yoga, ect would be fine
but too much more seems like you are robbing the true purpose of the cleanse.

About the muscle-loss, I think the fasting body will always get rid of the stuff it least needs,
which in this case would be dead stuff, fat, ect... Muscle loss wouldn't happen to a large
extent especially on just a 2-3 week cleanse. I could be wrong about this, but from my
reading a research this is the conclusion I come up with. This is day 18 for me and I have
not noticed any muscle loss and feel very strong right now.


Waldo
 
Interesting, I ask because at least for me it is very easy to lose muscle mass rather rapidly when in a period of sedentary emaciation. Conversely it is very difficult to gain it back. I don't want to lose everything I've gained in the past year. I weight 190 right now, my base weight without trying to gain is around 175. It has taken me an entire year to gain 15lbs of lean muscle mostly in my legs. Is it possible to supplement whey or casein protein to prevent muscle loss or does this defeat the purpose of the cleanse? I have fasted before for only like 36 hours or so with nothing but water but a 10 to 40 day fast seems like I would look like a rail at the end of it. I also don't want to hurt my run times or other general performance output.
 
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Just an update if anyone is interested. I went 21 days, then 4 days of juicing. Last night I had
a low temperature veggie soup with a bit of brown rice. Oddly, I felt lower and with less energy
while juicing. I did orange, grapefruit, pear, and juiced vegies on the 4th day. But today I feel
amazing. High energy and positive attitude, which is what I was completely lacking before,
and why I started the cleanse in the first place. I also lost about 23 pounds and this mostly
came off my beer belly, chest, and my face. I feel strong and ready to continue a much better
eating, exercising, and positive lifestyle.

I will try to develop those tongue pictures if anyone is interested, hehe.

Waldo
 
Just an update if anyone is interested. I went 21 days, then 4 days of juicing. Last night I had
a low temperature veggie soup with a bit of brown rice. Oddly, I felt lower and with less energy
while juicing. I did orange, grapefruit, pear, and juiced vegies on the 4th day. But today I feel
amazing. High energy and positive attitude, which is what I was completely lacking before,
and why I started the cleanse in the first place. I also lost about 23 pounds and this mostly
came off my beer belly, chest, and my face. I feel strong and ready to continue a much better
eating, exercising, and positive lifestyle.


I will try to develop those tongue pictures if anyone is interested, hehe.

Waldo

Way to go Waldo! Please develop and post those tongue pictures--a very strange process to observe.

During my fast, I lost 46 pounds in the same areas as you. I am now on an almost total raw food diet and have a high aversion to junk-food/fast-food/cooked food/candy etc. Using the blentec to make soups and smoothies. I ate a modest turkey dinner over christmas and woke up feeling bloated and ill at ease. The oxy-powder colon cleanse worked ok, (might try something stronger next time), but I was still surprised at all the crud that came out of me even after a 45 day fast.

I am about to do my first liver flush and will catch the stones/up-load the photos. Thanks to NH, I am reading this great book:

Andreas Moritz - Timeless Secrets of Health & Rejuvenation: http://www.scribd.com/doc/7379078/Andreas-Moritz-Timeless-Secrets-of-Health-Rejuvenation

I think in April, I will attempt another 40 day master cleanse. This fast has had one of the most positive affects of my whole life, especially with chronic aliments, increased energy, uplifted spirit--felt like it rolled back my biological clock 20 years. I no longer feel like I am denying myself or sacrificing by eating healthy; I have seen first-hand why fasting veterans try to go for at least 40 days, at that point, the unique spiritual mindset you glean becomes internalized--you come to believe. I truly understand what our western mono-crop diet is designed to do--that is to end our lives early while generating maximum revenue. It is now an easy choice to eat the right things. I no longer live to eat, but now eat to live.

I have reached an epiphany that has eluded me until I fasted. :)
 
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My first Liver Flush...

So I did my first liver flush last night--really simple to do with amazing results.

Here is what I used:

  • Four tablespoons Epsom Salts (if it says it can be used internally as a laxative that's the kind you want to use)
  • 1/2 cup virgin olive oil
  • 6 grapefruits

Preparation: Seven days before the flush, drink one liter a day of apple juice (whole) through out the day--the malic acid in the juice softens the gall/liver stones. This is optional and I didn't do it.

Day of the Flush:

The day of the flush, I ate very simple--cereal for breakfast and vegetables/fruit for lunch. Avoid all fats the day of the flush.

Eat no food after 2 PM.

Juice the grapefruit, need 3.75 cups total.

Take three cups of grapefruit juice and mix with four tablespoons of Epsom Salts, which will make four: 0.75 cup doses. Chill this.

At 6 PM last night, I took my first dose of 0.75 cup juice/Epsom salts.

At 8 pm last night, I took my second dose.

I went to the bathroom and got ready for going to bed at 10 pm sharp.

I mixed 0.75 of fresh grapefruit juice with 0.50 cup of olive oil and shake up in a jar until mixed.

I got all ready for bed: At 10 PM sharp, I chugged the olive oil/juice while standing by the bed. I immediately laid down on my back or on right side and did not move the whole night.

When I woke-up, but not before 6 AM. I took my third dose of juice/Epsom salts.

Two hours later, I took my fourth and last dose of juice/Epsom salts. I saw thousands of these tiny little stones (pea green, size of a pin head) floating in the commode in the morning. The calcified dark stones sink, the larger ones, I caught in a strainer.

Here is what my stones look like (the ones I could catch):

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Two hours after the last dose, I will eat simple again. Back to the regular routine tomorrow.

I will do this every two weeks for 9 more times. Don't Liver Flush during a full-moon, something about harder to expel the stones.
 
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I trust my body to detox itself. With a non-processed foods diet, no-refined sugar, raw living foods diet and plenty of water and exercise, you'd probably be just fine. Also eat less calories, larger breakfast then we are probably used to and a good lunch and skip dinner would be a good idea. Also don't drink water 30 before or 1 hour after eating. Get a good 5.5-6 hours between meals for the stomach to finish and have a moment to rest before the next meal starts.
 
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I trust my body to detox itself. With a non-processed foods diet, no-refined sugar, raw living foods diet and plenty of water and exercise, you'd probably be just fine. Also eat less calories, larger breakfast then we are probably used to and a good lunch and skip dinner would be a good idea. Also don't drink water 30 before or 1 hour after eating. Get a good 5.5-6 hours between meals for the stomach to finish and have a moment to rest before the next meal starts.

I have been on an almost complete raw food diet for the past 9 months; it's the last half-century of debauchery that I worry about... :D
 
Can you get the stones analyzed to make sure they are not soponified olive oil (soap stones) as some claim they are? I guess if real they should be calcium and cholesterol. Have you done a parasite cleanse or a kidney flush?
 
Can you get the stones analyzed to make sure they are not soponified olive oil (soap stones) as some claim they are? I guess if real they should be calcium and cholesterol. Have you done a parasite cleanse or a kidney flush?

Some were hard like a rock and sunk. No, I have not done a parasite cleanse nor kidney flush. How do you do those?

ps: sure seemed to be alot more than a half a cups worth also.
 
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So I did my first liver flush last night--really simple to do with amazing results.

It looks like you did it right! With all the cleansing you've done recently, the apple juice might not make a big difference.

I'd suggest you do a colon cleanse within the next couple days (oxy powder is fine). You may know this already, but for other's benefit, intrahepatic stones come out of the liver as opposed to gall stones that come out of the gall bladder. You may have gotten some gall stones out as well, but you certainly got some out of your liver. There are different kinds of intrahepatic stones. Some are made up of different toxins, and some are calcium. The only stones that show up on x-rays are the calcium variety. They are all surrounded by cholesterol. The liver does this so that the toxins aren't re-digested as the stones leave the body. Sometimes they can get caught in the digestive track, and if that happens they'll be re-digested and the toxins will be back in circulation through your body. A colon cleanse will prevent that.

Tomorrow, you will probably have more energy than you've experienced in a long time. Your food will be digested better, and you'll take in a lot more nutrients than you normally do. The liver has over 500 functions, and they will all work better after a cleanse. This will last at least a few days, until more stones try to come out and clog up the bile ducts again (but you'll still feel at least a little better than you did before the cleanse). Just remember that feeling... when you're done with liver cleansing and all the stones are out of your system, that feeling will be permanent.

Every 2 weeks is pretty aggressive, but if it works for you, go for it. After every 2-3 liver cleanses, it's recommended to do a kidney cleanse, but you might not need it as often because the master cleanse does a pretty thorough kidney cleanse. I wouldn't put a limit on the number of liver cleanses you do. Some people need a lot more than 9, and some people need less. Most people just keep doing them until you have 2 in a row without any stones. Even when you're done you'll probably want to do a maintenance cleanse once or twice a year, depending on what you put in your body.

It doesn't hurt anything cleansing on a full moon, it just usually isn't very effective. The best time to cleanse is on a new moon. I don't know the exact reasons for it, except that the human body has cycles that relate to the moon. There's probably some evolutionary reason for it from back in the hunter/gatherer days.

I think the whole function of creating stones, which then get flushed out with bile is probably also an evolutionary remnant of hunter/gatherer days. A person takes in some kind of toxin. The liver takes the toxins and surrounds it with cholesterol so the toxins don't damage organs. The person goes without meat for a while, and the bile builds up. The person gets some meat, and has a big fatty meal. The toxins leave the body from the bile release. The reason it doesn't work quite like that these days is because there's a constant supply of food, as well as a constant supply of toxins, so the stones get stuck like a log jam.

So could you feel the stones moving out of your liver? I always can, and it's the strangest feeling, like a procession of little marbles moving through your body. The morning after a cleanse, I always get very emotional, and I don't mean I get all sad, I mean I have very strong emotions shifting from bliss to hate and everything between. It's almost like the stones are past emotions that I'm letting go of. I don't know, just an observation.
 
Some were hard like a rock and sunk. No, I have not done a parasite cleanse nor kidney flush. How do you do those?

ps: sure seemed to be alot more than a half a cups worth also.

I'm not sure I just read that a parasite cleanse is recommended, I believe it is done with cloves I read it on curezone. It also said the kidney flush is usually not needed with master cleanse because the lemons pretty much take care of it. I was reading about the liver flush producing stones but were theorized by doctors to be just soap stones caused by the olive oil reacting with the grapefruit or something. The stones can be melted. However someone had theirs analyzed and they turned out to be cholesterol and thus legit. I was just curios because I started reading about it. I think I'm going to start the master cleanse tonight.

does this sound right? Is this good for about a day?

1/2 gal water
1 cup lemon juice
1 cup maple syrup
1-2tsp cayenne
 
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...So could you feel the stones moving out of your liver? I always can, and it's the strangest feeling, like a procession of little marbles moving through your body. The morning after a cleanse, I always get very emotional, and I don't mean I get all sad, I mean I have very strong emotions shifting from bliss to hate and everything between. It's almost like the stones are past emotions that I'm letting go of. I don't know, just an observation.

Yes, I could feel the stones moving, also all the noises and churning--a unique experience; I found it somewhat enjoyable and definitely fascinating. The juice/Epsom salts and the juice/olive oil were not that distasteful; I was preparing for a major gag-reflux and there was none. I feel much calmer after the cleanse, but I was tad-bit angry during, but mostly at the wife who was trying to get me to get up and do "honey do's/chores", nobody goes to bed at 10 pm around here. I can feel the energy building already. Next Liver Flush, after the movements stop, I will chug a liter of distilled water with two teaspoons of non-iodized sea salt as an added flush. And yes, I have some oxy-powder that I will start tonight.

The stuff I have learned in this heath-form has been the most beneficial for me in this Ron Paul experience. I really feel like the clock has been rolled back 20 years--incredible high energy levels/spirits.

ps: Many thanks again, that book and the general info is great. I am new to all this and thank goodness I was able to apply my skepticism to established medical orthodoxies, or I would probably be dead right now, and certainly not out running in the morning, like now. Also, before I stumbled into this health forum, I was 130 lbs obese, on several types of maintenance prescriptions for high blood pressure, migraines, cholesterol etc.--now I take none, with no migraines and my blood pressure is 110/69, 68pr. I will do a complete lipid profile in a few weeks and will post any changes.
 
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I'm not sure I just read that a parasite cleanse is recommended, I believe it is done with cloves I read it on curezone. It also said the kidney flush is usually not needed with master cleanse because the lemons pretty much take care of it. I was reading about the liver flush producing stones but were theorized by doctors to be just soap stones caused by the olive oil reacting with the grapefruit or something. The stones can be melted. However someone had theirs analyzed and they turned out to be cholesterol and thus legit. I was just curios because I started reading about it. I think I'm going to start the master cleanse tonight.

does this sound right? Is this good for about a day?

1/2 gal water
1 cup lemon juice
1 cup maple syrup
1-2tsp cayenne

Perfect, your good to go. Don't forget to chase the lemonade with water, glass for glass, as you drink it, and if you need to make/drink more during the first three days is ok--hotter the better with the pepper. Hold fast, first three days are no fun.

Here is the Master Cleanser Book in pdf to download: http://healthandlight.com/TheMasterCleanse.pdf
 
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