Martin Luther King III (Socialist) vs. Alveda King (Capitalist)

[clarity]

Leon Trotsky termed the word racist, actually the Russian equivalent: racistov. He used it against Slavs that wanted to preserve their people and culture, thus resisting his multiculturalism, multiracialist, internationalist agenda. The very concept of demonizing nationalism has been Communist agenda from the beginning. The word racism was first used as a title of a book written by Magnus Hirschfeld, Marxist, "sexologist", and founder of the Institute for Sexual Science in Germany.

I've always wondered how people in this so called movement can reconcile the fact that their views are seeped in cultural Marxist ideology that has been fed to them since they were small.

 

[WaltM]

Leon Trotsky termed the word racist, actually the Russian equivalent: racistov. He used it against Slavs that wanted to preserve their people and culture, thus resisting his multiculturalism, multiracialist, internationalist agenda. The very concept of demonizing nationalism has been Communist agenda from the beginning.

Whether by Ayn Rand's disgust for "collectivism" or also fallen victim of multiculturalism, Americans want to have it both ways.

The word racism was first used as a title of a book written by Magnus Hirschfeld, Marxist, "sexologist", and founder of the Institute for Sexual Science in Germany.

I've always wondered how people in this so called movement can reconcile the fact that their views are seeped in cultural Marxist ideology that has been fed to them since they were small.

beats me.

 

[Lord Xar]

...The very concept of demonizing nationalism has been Communist agenda from the beginning...

Clarity, expand on this please.

 

[cindy25]

wasn't Martin Luther King Jr. also a socialist?

 

[romacox]

Links please? I know for a fact that the communist charge is suspect or just plain bogus. It's based on a southern pro segregation newspaper claiming that the founders of "Highlander Research and Education Center" were communist but that charge was never proven and the founders deny it to this day. People claim that Ron Paul is racist too.

Just sayin....

Edit: Did my own search and all I could find was people taking an excerpt from MLK's "I have a dream speech" where he talked about America writing a check to blacks that was returned marked "insufficient funds" and taking that to mean "reparations". That could mean a lot of things. But it's ironic that Alveda King used that same language in the article FrankRep posted.

You are so right. I lived during that time, and saw how facts were twisted to advance what the elitists wanted. King was not perfect, but his heart was in the right place, and like Ron Paul, he was wrongfully attacked, ridiculed, and assassinated (King, that is).

The elitists twist history so as to promote their agenda.

 

[WaltM]

Clarity, expand on this please.

People will correct me, but I don't care.

The concept that all humans are equal, by any stretch, is communist.

By equal, I am not talking about equally in need of food, water, oxygen and sleep, this physiological similarity is shared all the way to dogs and cats.

Beyond that, people differ from talent to health, to wealth to birthplace.

Nationalism is but one other form of inequality. One which any rational person (who isn't communist) should accept. If nothing else, a nationalist believes a country should have borders, citizenship, and not give all humans equal entitlement.

We should stop fooling ourselves into believing that, having a shared physiological dependence (such as the need for food, shelter, water, oxygen, sleep) makes us "equal" because that would be shared to monkeys, dogs, rats, to render the term meaningless.

We also know that no country is "free for all", where citizens have the same rights and entitlements as non-citizens. Whether voluntary, wealth, religious, commitment, there are several different indicators as to why a person SHOULD NOT be treated as a citizen. That's how I define nationalism in the most basic form.

How can one oppose the most basic ideas of nationalism, and be anything BUT communist?

Is it not fair to say, that person who believes either
a) there should be no government to serve people differently
b) there should be a government which forces people to be equal
is communist?? What else do you call it?

 

[clarity]

Clarity, expand on this please.

A nation is more than borders. It is the culture and people. It is more than a bunch of flag waving and pledging your allegiance to your flag. It is more than what the cultural Marxists have them themselves built up patriotism to be.

The goal of the Marxist, especially those of the later Marxist theorists, was to break down the culture and the people by introducing foreign peoples and cultures into the mix. By doing this, they can break down the nation itself and open the people up for internationalism. This is why they have been at the forefront of every multicultural, multiracial, and pro-minority group in Europe and America.

It is why their own invented word racist almost always by definition means evil white person. Only whites are charged with hate crimes. It is why a Black Caucus can exist but never a White Caucus.

The fact is that the Europeans are the host nations that cultural Marxists have turned their theories into practice and we are the ones targeted for destruction. Turn whites into the minority in their own countries or even cause their extinction, and there will be zero resistance against the Western countries falling right in line with any international world agenda they have.

 

[Minuteman2012]

A nation is more than borders. It is the culture and people. It is more than a bunch of flag waving and pledging your allegiance to your flag. It is more than what the cultural Marxists have them themselves built up patriotism to be.

The goal of the Marxist, especially those of the later Marxist theorists, was to break down the culture and the people by introducing foreign peoples and cultures into the mix. By doing this, they can break down the nation itself and open the people up for internationalism. This is why they have been at the forefront of every multicultural, multiracial, and pro-minority group in Europe and America.

It is why their own invented word racist almost always by definition means evil white person. Only whites are charged with hate crimes. It is why a Black Caucus can exist but never a White Caucus.

The fact is that the Europeans are the host nations that cultural Marxists have turned their theories into practice and we are the ones targeted for destruction. Turn whites into the minority in their own countries or even cause their extinction, and there will be zero resistance against the Western countries falling right in line with any international world agenda they have.

White Males and Arab Muslims are the groups most targeted and demonized by the Media, Cultural and Educational Establishment.

 

[Sola_Fide]

People will correct me, but I don't care.

The concept that all humans are equal, by any stretch, is communist.

By equal, I am not talking about equally in need of food, water, oxygen and sleep, this physiological similarity is shared all the way to dogs and cats.

Beyond that, people differ from talent to health, to wealth to birthplace.

Nationalism is but one other form of inequality. One which any rational person (who isn't communist) should accept. If nothing else, a nationalist believes a country should have borders, citizenship, and not give all humans equal entitlement.

We should stop fooling ourselves into believing that, having a shared physiological dependence (such as the need for food, shelter, water, oxygen, sleep) makes us "equal" because that would be shared to monkeys, dogs, rats, to render the term meaningless.

We also know that no country is "free for all", where citizens have the same rights and entitlements as non-citizens. Whether voluntary, wealth, religious, commitment, there are several different indicators as to why a person SHOULD NOT be treated as a citizen. That's how I define nationalism in the most basic form.

How can one oppose the most basic ideas of nationalism, and be anything BUT communist?

Is it not fair to say, that person who believes either
a) there should be no government to serve people differently
b) there should be a government which forces people to be equal
is communist?? What else do you call it?

Wrong.

Communism is not equality. In Communism, some people become more equal than others.

 

[FrankRep]

Wrong.

Communism is not equality. In Communism, some people become more equal than others.

Communism promises "true equality," but equality doesn't exist. It's a trick.

 

[WaltM]

Wrong.

Communism is not equality. In Communism, some people become more equal than others.

what is more equal than communism?

I grant communism isn't purely or perfectly equal, but it claims and strives to be more than any other.

Unless you're opposed to equality, what is your point in saying communism isn't about equality? (or more than others)

 

[WaltM]

Communism promises "true equality," but equality doesn't exist. It's a trick.

I agree equality doesn't exist (and shouldn't).

Can you explain to me then, what Jefferson meant by "All men are created equal", or is he wrong?

 

[FrankRep]

Can you explain to me then, what Jefferson meant by "All men are created equal", or is he wrong?

We're all equal in the eyes of God and we're "created" with the same rights.
It's a different concept than what the Communists are pushing.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed;​

 

[Mach]

Let the games begin! Dig into some names from this article and share what you find.... I know, it depends on who you ask, as far as which "correct" answer you're going to get.

http://www.momentmag.com/moment/issues/2009/02/Jews-Blacks-1.html

 

[WaltM]

We're all equal in the eyes of God and we're "created" with the same rights.

How the hell does communism disagree with that?

What does "created" equal mean? What same rights? Do all humans have the right to be an US citizen?

It's a different concept than what the Communists are pushing.

how is it different?

what more or less equality does communism promise?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed;​

quoting doesn't tell me much, specifics please.