Marist presidential poll ending 18 April 2024 - Biden up 3 pts. - 51 to 48 over Trump

[acptulsa]

The only chance Trump has is to overwhelm the perception so that the American public will find his loss implausible. Doesn't look like we're seeing much "winning" from his side.

It's implausible at 50/50.

Get real. After what we've seen we tend to overestimate the amount of pure bull the American public will swallow. We had to watch the American public lap up one hell of a lot of pure mendacity to believe it. And they have certainly seen the same thing. I can't imagine how often the powers that be and their minions have said, "They bought that!?!"

They're trying to get The Right -- you know, the people with the guns -- to beg for totalitarianism. They stole the election from him and they jailed and are jailing people who complained about it. If The Right is going to be stirred off their asses at all, much less demand that they be allowed to burn the Constitution they think they revere, the Second Steal must be beyond obvious. They have to rub our noses in the doggie doo to prevent people from being able to go into denial about it.

So, the Clown Biden Administration must do literally everything wrong, very wrong, and in a big way. He must alienate all the independent voters and many Democrats. And they're doing it. They're working at it and they're doing it.

Hell, I've met certifiably insane people who can't stand no more. Biden's not really even in the ballpark.

We won't see anything but cooked polls from here on out. They have to get people set for even more obvious election rigging. Besides, otherwise people might see the Kennedy groundswell and join it.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Despite a still close contest between President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump, Trump’s support among white voters and independents has splintered.

That's unmarried, college degreed, white women, whose number one and only political issue is abortion.

 

[Voluntarist]

God save us from real democracy (whatever that is).

What God wants, God gets, God help us all.
...
God wants politics - God wants a good laugh

Roger Waters with Jeff Beck

 

[Anti Globalist]

At this point we might as well chalk up a win for Newsom in 2028 since I'm pretty sure the GOP will still be in shambles by then.

 

[Anti Federalist]

That's unmarried, college degreed, white women, whose number one and only political issue is abortion.

 

[nobody's_hero]

At this point we might as well chalk up a win for Newsom in 2028 since I'm pretty sure the GOP will still be in shambles by then.

Why are you always talking like the GOP was doing just fine before 2016?

Ron Paul wasn't exactly on the precipice of winning.

The GOP's problem is that it has humans in its ranks. —People who have their own opinions. People who think.

The democrats will always have an advantage over the GOP in this regard because their ranks are full of NPCs. And if that's not enough, they're also a favorite among dead voters.

 

[69360]

At this point we might as well chalk up a win for Newsom in 2028 since I'm pretty sure the GOP will still be in shambles by then.

I think DeSantis could beat Newsom.

 

[Invisible Man]

Biden is up 5 in that poll in the 5 way race, which is more realistic this time I think.

It's just going to get worse for Trump as reality sinks in and the convictions come.

I have to strongly disagree with you there. Polls always grossly overestimate third party candidates.

 

[oyarde]

I have to strongly disagree with you there. Polls always grossly overestimate third party candidates.

ya , kennedy probably wont be a factor

 

[69360]

I have to strongly disagree with you there. Polls always grossly overestimate third party candidates.

Polls have never dealt with the 2 most unpopular former presidents in history. Kennedy might very well get double digits.

 

[acptulsa]

Polls have never dealt with the 2 most unpopular former presidents in history. Kennedy might very well get double digits.

That's what I'm thinking. Two proven failures might be enough to break the duopoly.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Why are you always talking like the GOP was doing just fine before 2016?

Ron Paul wasn't exactly on the precipice of winning.

The GOP's problem is that it has humans in its ranks. —People who have their own opinions. People who think.

The democrats will always have an advantage over the GOP in this regard because their ranks are full of NPCs. And if that's not enough, they're also a favorite among dead voters.

Absolutely right.

"We" sit around with our thumbs up our asses and get steamrolled by the Marxist left, because we think we will somehow appeal to their better nature, we'll persuade them with well stated opinions and gently nudge them with facts showing them the error of their thinking.

Against a movement of people that hate you, hate your country, hate your institutions, hate everything you stand for and believe in and want all of it burned to the ground and want you and everyone you know dead.

These people could not possibly care less about the rights of man.

They are wreckers, minions of Marx, Mao and Robespierre, that only know death, destruction, bloodshed and pain as a means to total power.

You might as well stick your hand in a basket of cobras and not expect them to bite.

 

[Snowball]

Democrats will win.

Pay no attention. It's not worth the time in your life to even follow.

 

[Invisible Man]

ya , kennedy probably wont be a factor

He might be a factor. But only in the sub-5% range. That could make a difference. But since he pulls from both sides it could be a wash.

 

[Invisible Man]

Polls have never dealt with the 2 most unpopular former presidents in history.

Yes they have. In 2016.

 

[69360]

Biden thinks he can win Florida.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-insists-red-state-won-170038211.html

 

[acptulsa]

Biden thinks he can win Florida.

Sure. You don't know it yet, but DeSantis is about to kill the Secretary of your State, commit suicide by stabbing himself seventeen times, and then string himself up by his thumbs before he expires.

Jeb! will then graciously step back in and handle any appointments that might need to be made, and everyone will agree that there was nothing odd about that at all.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Absolutely right.

"We" sit around with our thumbs up our asses and get steamrolled by the Marxist left, because we think we will somehow appeal to their better nature, we'll persuade them with well stated opinions and gently nudge them with facts showing them the error of their thinking.

Against a movement of people that hate you, hate your country, hate your institutions, hate everything you stand for and believe in and want all of it burned to the ground and want you and everyone you know dead.

These people could not possibly care less about the rights of man.

They are wreckers, minions of Marx, Mao and Robespierre, that only know death, destruction, bloodshed and pain as a means to total power.

You might as well stick your hand in a basket of cobras and not expect them to bite.

I think there are those on the left who are waking up but damn it's a slow process. Republicans get one year of a House Speaker who rubs them the wrong way and they're ready to throw them out. I don't see it as a bad thing.

But meanwhile the left would throw Nancy Pelosi back into the spot if they got the chance. Not even gonna try something different. They just don't think.

 

[acptulsa]

They just don't think.

Herd animal instinct. You can't steamroll over anyone unless you maintain tight ranks. Herd animals don't much care where they go just as long as they don't travel alone.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Biden thinks he can win Florida.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-insists-red-state-won-170038211.html

https://twitter.com/FlaDems/status/1782879074949509276