Marijuana reform initiatives on the ballot in 2012 - Official Results Thread

[jct74]

new TV ad in Colorado, this is the 2nd major TV ad they will be airing

Tony Ryan, Former Denver Cop: 'Regulating Marijuana Will Allow Law Enforcement To Direct Resources Toward Serious Crime'

By Matt Ferner
Posted: 10/18/2012 3:42 pm




A new ad released by the pro-pot advocates behind Colorado's Amendment 64 -- a November ballot measure that seeks an end to marijuana prohibition in the state -- features retired, highly decorated 36-year-veteran of the Denver Police Department Lt. Tony Ryan who says the regulation of marijuana will lead to "safer communities."

That's the theme of the second ad from the Campaign to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol camp: that marijuana does not lead to violent crime and that by allowing law enforcement to stop focusing on pot busts and instead freeing up their resources to be focused on serious crime, communities in Colorado will be safer.

"In my 36 years as a police officer in Denver, I can't recall a single incident where marijuana was a cause of violence," Ryan says in the spot. Citing data from the FBI Uniform Crime Reports, the ad states that although Ryan says marijuana use did not lead to violent crimes, there have been over 50,000 marijuana arrests in Colorado since 2007.

Ryan goes on to state that he believes regulating the sale of marijuana will allow law enforcement to set new priorities and "direct resources toward serious crime."

...

read more:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/tony-ryan-ex-denver-polic_n_1981232.html

 

[jct74]

first TV ad in Arkansas


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO__RJyn-7s

 

[jct74]

Montel speaks out on Arkansas initiative

Talk show host Williams: Opponents of Ark. medical marijuana resorting to ‘racist’ imagery

By Associated Press, Published: October 18

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. — Talk show host Montel Williams on Thursday accused opponents of an Arkansas ballot measure that would legalize medical marijuana of resorting to “racist” imagery with a television ad featuring an African-American actor portraying a drug dealer.

Williams, an outspoken supporter of medical marijuana, appeared Thursday at the state Capitol alongside members of Arkansans for Compassionate Care, which is campaigning for Arkansas’ legalization measure on the Nov. 6 ballot. He criticized an ad aired by a conservative group opposing the proposal.

“Offensive is really an understatement. It’s the most egregiously racist, false statement you’ve ever seen in your life,” Williams told a crowd gathered in front of the state Capitol steps. “They’ve people sitting in a picture holding guns, talking about medical marijuana, and of course they happen to be of different colors to make sure you’re as irritated and angry as you can be.”

...

The Family Council Action Committee said it paid about $1,000 for airtime to run a 30-second spot opposing the measure. The committee is part of the Coalition to Preserve Arkansas Values, which unsuccessfully sued to try and get the medical marijuana proposal off the ballot. The ad at one point shows a black actor sitting at a table with guns and filling bags with marijuana.

...

read more:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...f6c9e6-193b-11e2-ad4a-e5a958b60a1e_story.html



here is the TV ad in question


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z14t6KtmVLw

 

[Icymudpuppy]

502 is not "legalization".
"...The initiative would legalize use of marijuana products purchased from state authorized sources for adults 21 and over... Unlicensed cannabis will still be illegal, including personal "grows" in one's own home, except for medical cannabis as regulated under RCW 69.51A. (Growing a single plant without a "license"=felony=WORSE THAN THE EXISTING LAW-PP)

Just like alcohol in WA. You still can't distill your own. It was only sold by state owned liquor stores until just last year. Still a hell of a lot better than prohibition.

True, I still can't grow my own MJ unless I'm a medical marijuana prescription holder, but I CAN GROW MY OWN INDUSTRIAL HEMP! And I plan to do so. 10 acres to start, if it profits well, I'll put more acreage into Hemp.

 

[tod evans]

What an insane and misleading video.

Shameful!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z14t6KtmVLw

 

[Origanalist]

Just like alcohol in WA. You still can't distill your own. It was only sold by state owned liquor stores until just last year. Still a hell of a lot better than prohibition.

True, I still can't grow my own MJ unless I'm a medical marijuana prescription holder, but I CAN GROW MY OWN INDUSTRIAL HEMP! And I plan to do so. 10 acres to start, if it profits well, I'll put more acreage into Hemp.

Have you checked out this?

http://www.nooni502.com/wordpress/faq-5

Or this?

http://www.nooni502.com/wordpress/archives/559

 

[jct74]

What an insane and misleading video.

Shameful!

there was some more shameful anti-marijuana advertisements in Oregon recently, but the billboards pictured below actually got taken down by Clear Channel after people complained it was misleading.

Controversial anti-marijuana billboards around the Portland area featuring a haggard looking child have all been taken down, Clear Channel Outdoor confirmed on Friday.

The eight billboards have been up for about two weeks, said Dan Dhruva, vice president of real estate and public affairs at the Portland branch of Clear Channel Outdoor.

He said Clear Channel decided to remove the billboards after complaints, because it was not clear who was behind the ads. Clear Channel has no position on Ballot Measure 80, which would legalize marijuana.

"The ads protesting marijuana are being removed because our policy is transparency of advertising campaigns and the advertisers who are sponsoring them. These ads include a misleading website that we believe needed to honestly represent the advertiser so the ads are being removed," he said in a prepared statement.

http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/10/clear_channel_takes_down_anti-.html

 

[jct74]

some video of Montel in Arkansas, he gets emotional a couple times during his speech

 

[youngbuck]

I will be voting for 64 in Colorado. I'm thinking we'll get this one right.

Same here... it's about time.

 

[AFPVet]

People need to be educated on the difference between hemp and marijuana. Even people in the liberty movement get them confused.

Yes they do. Industrial hemp was selectively bred to have very low levels of THC and high levels of CBD. Conversely, only three percent of cannabis plants can be considered marijuana. Marijuana contains high THC and varied amounts of CBD—depending on strain.

 

[Icymudpuppy]

Have you checked out this?

http://www.nooni502.com/wordpress/faq-5

Or this?

http://www.nooni502.com/wordpress/archives/559

I said it treats it like alcohol. Not beer/Wine, but rather like Hard distilled alcohol. Whiskey, Rum, etc. It is not legal in WA to make your own hard liquor. Still better to have it legally obtainable in state run stores than a blanket ban. Keeps it out of schools and off the roads. If I was the owner of a private road, I would make DUI of alcohol or marijuana a reason to be banished from using my roads. This is a step in the right direction as it WILL seriously cut down on marijuana related gang crime.

 

[Origanalist]

Just like alcohol in WA. You still can't distill your own. It was only sold by state owned liquor stores until just last year. Still a hell of a lot better than prohibition.

True, I still can't grow my own MJ unless I'm a medical marijuana prescription holder, but I CAN GROW MY OWN INDUSTRIAL HEMP! And I plan to do so. 10 acres to start, if it profits well, I'll put more acreage into Hemp.

News to me, I did not know that was legal.

 

[AGRP]

I said it treats it like alcohol. Not beer/Wine, but rather like Hard distilled alcohol. Whiskey, Rum, etc. It is not legal in WA to make your own hard liquor. Still better to have it legally obtainable in state run stores than a blanket ban. Keeps it out of schools and off the roads. If I was the owner of a private road, I would make DUI of alcohol or marijuana a reason to be banished from using my roads. This is a step in the right direction as it WILL seriously cut down on marijuana related gang crime.

 

[jct74]

Latest polls for medical marijuana in Arkansas have taken a turn for the worse.


[TABLE="width: 800"]
[TR][TD]Pollster[/TD][TD]Subject Polled[/TD][TD]

Support​

[/TD][TD]

Oppose​

[/TD][TD]

Lead​

[/TD][TD]

Date​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Talk Business-Hendrix College (new)[/TD][TD]Issue 5[/TD][TD]

38​

[/TD][TD]

54​

[/TD][TD]

-16​

[/TD][TD]

10/18​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]University of Arkansas (new)[/TD][TD]Issue 5[/TD][TD]

44​

[/TD][TD]

52​

[/TD][TD]

-8​

[/TD][TD]

10/9 - 10/14​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Talk Business-Hendrix College[/TD][TD]Issue 5[/TD][TD]

47​

[/TD][TD]

46​

[/TD][TD]

+1​

[/TD][TD]

7/19​

[/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]


TV ads are just starting to hit the airwaves though, and here is a 2nd TV ad that was just recently released.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0ExcepBXxI

 

[jct74]

some new polls in Colorado and Washington, still holding onto a lead in both states but a little all over the place in Washington.


Colorado

[TABLE="width: 800"]
[TR][TD]Pollster[/TD][TD]Subject Polled[/TD][TD]

Support​

[/TD][TD]

Oppose​

[/TD][TD]

Lead​

[/TD][TD]

Date​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Public Policy Polling (new)[/TD][TD]Amendment 64[/TD][TD]

53​

[/TD][TD]

43​

[/TD][TD]

+10​

[/TD][TD]

10/23 - 10/25​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Denver Post / SurveyUSA[/TD][TD]Amendment 64[/TD][TD]

48​

[/TD][TD]

43​

[/TD][TD]

+5​

[/TD][TD]

10/9 - 10/10​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Quinnipiac / CBS / NYT[/TD][TD]legalizing marijuana[/TD][TD]

45​

[/TD][TD]

46​

[/TD][TD]

-1​

[/TD][TD]

10/4 - 10/9​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]University of Denver / Seltzer[/TD][TD]Amendment 64[/TD][TD]

50​

[/TD][TD]

40​

[/TD][TD]

+10​

[/TD][TD]

10/4 - 10/5​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Denver Post / SurveyUSA[/TD][TD]Amendment 64[/TD][TD]

51​

[/TD][TD]

40​

[/TD][TD]

+11​

[/TD][TD]

9/09 - 9/12​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Public Policy Polling[/TD][TD]Amendment 64[/TD][TD]

47​

[/TD][TD]

38​

[/TD][TD]

+9​

[/TD][TD]

8/31 - 9/02​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Public Policy Polling[/TD][TD]Amendment 64[/TD][TD]

47​

[/TD][TD]

38​

[/TD][TD]

+9​

[/TD][TD]

8/02 - 8/05​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Public Policy Polling[/TD][TD]Amendment 64[/TD][TD]

46​

[/TD][TD]

42​

[/TD][TD]

+4​

[/TD][TD]

6/14 - 6/17​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Rasmussen Reports[/TD][TD]regulating marijuana like alcohol[/TD][TD]

61​

[/TD][TD]

27​

[/TD][TD]

+34​

[/TD][TD]

6/06​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Public Policy Polling[/TD][TD]legalizing marijuana[/TD][TD]

49​

[/TD][TD]

40​

[/TD][TD]

+9​

[/TD][TD]

Dec. 2011​

[/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]


Washington

[TABLE="width: 800"]
[TR][TD]Pollster[/TD][TD]Subject Polled[/TD][TD]

Support​

[/TD][TD]

Oppose​

[/TD][TD]

Lead​

[/TD][TD]

Date​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Strategies 360 (new)[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

54​

[/TD][TD]

38​

[/TD][TD]

+16​

[/TD][TD]

10/17 - 10/20​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Elway Research (new)[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

48​

[/TD][TD]

44​

[/TD][TD]

+4​

[/TD][TD]

10/18 - 10/21​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]King 5 / SurveyUSA[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

55​

[/TD][TD]

36​

[/TD][TD]

+19​

[/TD][TD]

10/12 - 10/14​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]KCTS 9 Washington[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

47​

[/TD][TD]

40​

[/TD][TD]

+7​

[/TD][TD]

10/1 - 10/16​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]King 5 / SurveyUSA[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

57​

[/TD][TD]

33​

[/TD][TD]

+24​

[/TD][TD]

9/28 - 9/30​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Elway Research[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

50​

[/TD][TD]

38​

[/TD][TD]

+12​

[/TD][TD]

9/08 - 9/12​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]King 5 / SurveyUSA[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

57​

[/TD][TD]

34​

[/TD][TD]

+23​

[/TD][TD]

9/07 - 9/09​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]King 5 / SurveyUSA[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

55​

[/TD][TD]

32​

[/TD][TD]

+23​

[/TD][TD]

7/16 - 7/17​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Public Policy Polling[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

50​

[/TD][TD]

37​

[/TD][TD]

+13​

[/TD][TD]

6/14 - 6/17​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Public Policy Polling[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

47​

[/TD][TD]

39​

[/TD][TD]

+8​

[/TD][TD]

2/16 - 2/19​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Elway Research[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

48​

[/TD][TD]

45​

[/TD][TD]

+3​

[/TD][TD]

Jan. 2012​

[/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[jct74]

if anyone is confused by the situation in Montana, here is a recent article that sums it up:
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/2012/oct/23/when_losing_means_winning_montan

also, the website for the main group leading the opposition to I-124 has lots more information:
http://www.patientsforreform.org/


here's a couple of radio ads airing in Montana







and what looks like a new TV ad

 

[Shane Harris]

some new polls in Colorado and Washington, still holding steady in both states but a little all over the place in Washington.


Colorado

[TABLE="width: 800"]
[TR][TD]Pollster[/TD][TD]Subject Polled[/TD][TD]

Support​

[/TD][TD]

Oppose​

[/TD][TD]

Lead​

[/TD][TD]

Date​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Public Policy Polling (new)[/TD][TD]Amendment 64[/TD][TD]

53​

[/TD][TD]

43​

[/TD][TD]

+10​

[/TD][TD]

10/23 - 10/25​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Denver Post / SurveyUSA[/TD][TD]Amendment 64[/TD][TD]

48​

[/TD][TD]

43​

[/TD][TD]

+5​

[/TD][TD]

10/9 - 10/10​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Quinnipiac / CBS / NYT[/TD][TD]legalizing marijuana[/TD][TD]

45​

[/TD][TD]

46​

[/TD][TD]

-1​

[/TD][TD]

10/4 - 10/9​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]University of Denver / Seltzer[/TD][TD]Amendment 64[/TD][TD]

50​

[/TD][TD]

40​

[/TD][TD]

+10​

[/TD][TD]

10/4 - 10/5​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Denver Post / SurveyUSA[/TD][TD]Amendment 64[/TD][TD]

51​

[/TD][TD]

40​

[/TD][TD]

+11​

[/TD][TD]

9/09 - 9/12​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Public Policy Polling[/TD][TD]Amendment 64[/TD][TD]

47​

[/TD][TD]

38​

[/TD][TD]

+9​

[/TD][TD]

8/31 - 9/02​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Public Policy Polling[/TD][TD]Amendment 64[/TD][TD]

47​

[/TD][TD]

38​

[/TD][TD]

+9​

[/TD][TD]

8/02 - 8/05​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Public Policy Polling[/TD][TD]Amendment 64[/TD][TD]

46​

[/TD][TD]

42​

[/TD][TD]

+4​

[/TD][TD]

6/14 - 6/17​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Rasmussen Reports[/TD][TD]regulating marijuana like alcohol[/TD][TD]

61​

[/TD][TD]

27​

[/TD][TD]

+34​

[/TD][TD]

6/06​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Public Policy Polling[/TD][TD]legalizing marijuana[/TD][TD]

49​

[/TD][TD]

40​

[/TD][TD]

+9​

[/TD][TD]

Dec. 2011​

[/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]


Washington

[TABLE="width: 800"]
[TR][TD]Pollster[/TD][TD]Subject Polled[/TD][TD]

Support​

[/TD][TD]

Oppose​

[/TD][TD]

Lead​

[/TD][TD]

Date​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Strategies 360 (new)[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

54​

[/TD][TD]

38​

[/TD][TD]

+16​

[/TD][TD]

10/17 - 10/20​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Elway Research (new)[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

48​

[/TD][TD]

44​

[/TD][TD]

+4​

[/TD][TD]

10/18 - 10/21​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]King 5 / SurveyUSA[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

55​

[/TD][TD]

36​

[/TD][TD]

+19​

[/TD][TD]

10/12 - 10/14​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]KCTS 9 Washington[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

47​

[/TD][TD]

40​

[/TD][TD]

+7​

[/TD][TD]

10/1 - 10/16​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]King 5 / SurveyUSA[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

57​

[/TD][TD]

33​

[/TD][TD]

+24​

[/TD][TD]

9/28 - 9/30​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Elway Research[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

50​

[/TD][TD]

38​

[/TD][TD]

+12​

[/TD][TD]

9/08 - 9/12​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]King 5 / SurveyUSA[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

57​

[/TD][TD]

34​

[/TD][TD]

+23​

[/TD][TD]

9/07 - 9/09​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]King 5 / SurveyUSA[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

55​

[/TD][TD]

32​

[/TD][TD]

+23​

[/TD][TD]

7/16 - 7/17​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Public Policy Polling[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

50​

[/TD][TD]

37​

[/TD][TD]

+13​

[/TD][TD]

6/14 - 6/17​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Public Policy Polling[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

47​

[/TD][TD]

39​

[/TD][TD]

+8​

[/TD][TD]

2/16 - 2/19​

[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Elway Research[/TD][TD]Initiative 502[/TD][TD]

48​

[/TD][TD]

45​

[/TD][TD]

+3​

[/TD][TD]

Jan. 2012​

[/TD][/TR]
[/TABLE]

new polls look great! less than 2 weeks out and being up by 10 points in CO and 16 in WA! On a side note, I really cannot take seriously any supposed liberty republican not in favor of legalizing marijuana. It has to be the most cut and dry easy litmus test there is.

 

[Shane Harris]

out of curiosity does anyone know what the polling looked like at this time last go around for marijuana initiatives??

 

[jct74]

out of curiosity does anyone know what the polling looked like at this time last go around for marijuana initiatives??

Support usually decreases as election day approaches and the anti-marijuana scare tactics ramp up, this has been a clear trend over the years for marijuana reform initiatives. But from what I have read recently this is usually true for any type of ballot initiative whether it has to do with marijuana or not, and people that are undecided about a ballot initiative usually end up voting no.

The best example to compare these legalization initiatives to (and the only one that I could find polling data for) is Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana in California in 2010. It was polling well until the beginning of October, then support suddenly collapsed.
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.p...arijuana_Legalization_Initiative_(2010)#Polls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_19#Polling_history

 

[Shane Harris]

Support usually decreases as election day approaches and the anti-marijuana scare tactics ramp up, this has been a clear trend over the years for marijuana reform initiatives. But from what I have read recently this is usually true for any type of ballot initiative whether it has to do with marijuana or not, and people that are undecided about a ballot initiative usually end up voting no.

The best example to compare these legalization initiatives to (and the only one that I could find polling data for) is Proposition 19 to legalize marijuana in California in 2010. It was polling well until the beginning of October, then support suddenly collapsed.
http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.p...arijuana_Legalization_Initiative_(2010)#Polls
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_19#Polling_history

Well thats good news since it is now the end of October and support is remaining steady. And what's even better is that support is steadily OVER 50%.