Marijuana legalization may hit 40 states. Now what?

[Grandmastersexsay]

I don't know what you mean by synthetic marijauna, besides that K9 stuff they used to sell a lot like 10 years or so ago.

Do you mean K2? Yes, that's what they are using. There are plenty of reports on it. Here is one.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...th-cheap-illegal-synthetic-marijuana-analysis

 

[tebowlives]

before moving the Cheapest I saw was $60 Quarter.. I buy the same or BETTER at $10 to $20..

Show me different. I think it is major Butt-hurt from those that refused to invest in the market.

Because there are no Dealers selling that cheap. or stocking the Variety.

I call BS. 10-20 dollars for a quarter??? A gram costs that much. And the following prices, are pre tax. Select locales in California are facing combined state, local, excise, and wholesale tax rates of as high as 45%. Plus prices are rising.



from aug 2019
"Overall you can expect to pay an average of around $16 a gram or $283 an ounce in California. That’s slightly higher than what you would have paid at this time last year, when the average for a gram was $14.
Since recreational cannabis became legal on January 1, 2018, cannabis prices have inched up in California. That’s largely because there’s now a 15% excise tax on recreational marijuana. And that doesn’t include local government taxes."

Here are recreational dispensaries currently open in San Francisco:


City Store Name Average Price Per Gram
San Francisco The Apothecarium — Castro $17
San Francisco The Apothecarium — SoMa $17
San Francisco The Barbary Coast $16
San Francisco Grass Roots $15
San Francisco The Green Cross SF N/A
San Francisco Harvest Off Mission $14
San Francisco Harvest Off Geary $14
San Francisco Medithrive $18.50
San Francisco Purple Star MD $16
San Francisco Relief Herbal Cooperative $15
San Francisco Sffogg $17
San Francisco Shambhala Healing $18.50

https://marijuanarates.com/california-marijuana-prices/

 

[pcosmar]

I get $5 grams,, $10 1/8 commonly.. (I do hunt deals)


Paying $8 for a gram of 70% Crumble and that is after the 37% don't Phuck with me tax..

Now it is possible that some squatter is growing with no overhead,,,and can beat the price of a Store..
When you can find him and when he has some and you get whatever crap he has to sell.

But there is no way some Fly by night dealer is going to have any decent selection.. You get what they got.

In both Oregon and Washington there were Private labs testing organic Produce for Pesticides or other contaminants..

It is On the Label,, Pesticides used if any.. and tested Content. (% thc,cbd,)

California has Multiple Problems,,, Excessively High Rent is likely more a factor than the tax.

edit..
Menu for the Freedom Market,, (a multi-store Chain)

https://www.leafly.com/dispensary-info/freedom-market

 

[dannno]

Do you mean K2? Yes, that's what they are using. There are plenty of reports on it. Here is one.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...th-cheap-illegal-synthetic-marijuana-analysis

Hmm, doesn't seem to connect it to lipoid pneumonia tho.. that was supposedly caused by the vitamin e which is a lipoid.

 

[dannno]

I call BS. 10-20 dollars for a quarter??? A gram costs that much. And the following prices, are pre tax. Select locales in California are facing combined state, local, excise, and wholesale tax rates of as high as 45%. Plus prices are rising.



from aug 2019
"Overall you can expect to pay an average of around $16 a gram or $283 an ounce in California. That’s slightly higher than what you would have paid at this time last year, when the average for a gram was $14.
Since recreational cannabis became legal on January 1, 2018, cannabis prices have inched up in California. That’s largely because there’s now a 15% excise tax on recreational marijuana. And that doesn’t include local government taxes."

Here are recreational dispensaries currently open in San Francisco:


City Store Name Average Price Per Gram
San Francisco The Apothecarium — Castro $17
San Francisco The Apothecarium — SoMa $17
San Francisco The Barbary Coast $16
San Francisco Grass Roots $15
San Francisco The Green Cross SF N/A
San Francisco Harvest Off Mission $14
San Francisco Harvest Off Geary $14
San Francisco Medithrive $18.50
San Francisco Purple Star MD $16
San Francisco Relief Herbal Cooperative $15
San Francisco Sffogg $17
San Francisco Shambhala Healing $18.50

https://marijuanarates.com/california-marijuana-prices/

He's right.

I can buy a $20 gram, but I can also buy an ounce for $100-$120 in CA from some medical dispesnaries. That comes out to about $4/gram. It isn't quite as good as the $20 gram on average, but I have had some fairly spectacular $100-$120 ounces from the medical market.

 

[CoastieInColorado]

Great for my business plan, I just started a small security firm in Colorado specializing in marijuana security. Have one contract definite and 2 pending, and haven't even had the LLC filing returned yet...

I'll be the now 3rd state in this thread to vouch on prices...grow up. The prices aren't that different here in Colorado between stores and the street.

Recreational flower is $75-100/oz out the door all day long, medical I've seen as low as $40/oz tested and certified not have used any poisons during the process. The underground growers are not subject to these rules, nor to they give a shit if you end up smoking banned pesticides and fungicides.

Concentrates are as low as $10/gram here.

Pre rolled 1 gram wax infused joints are $5. Regular joints are $3.75.

Edibles are a little pricey to me, but that's probably because they don't do jack shit to me.

I also don't have to wait for Darnell to get off his bar back job at 1am to get a bag anymore, now I just have to make it to my store after 8am and before 11 pm, and not worry about going to jail on the way home.

 

[tebowlives]

He's right.

I can buy a $20 gram, but I can also buy an ounce for $100-$120 in CA from some medical dispesnaries. That comes out to about $4/gram. It isn't quite as good as the $20 gram on average, but I have had some fairly spectacular $100-$120 ounces from the medical market.

No he's not. a 10-20 a quarter would make an ounce 40-80 and that's without the normal discount given when one buys an ounce. I don't see a dispensary advertise 80 an ounce much less 40. It's no where near the norm.

 

[tebowlives]

Great for my business plan, I just started a small security firm in Colorado specializing in marijuana security. Have one contract definite and 2 pending, and haven't even had the LLC filing returned yet...

I'll be the now 3rd state in this thread to vouch on prices...grow up. The prices aren't that different here in Colorado between stores and the street.

Recreational flower is $75-100/oz out the door all day long, medical I've seen as low as $40/oz tested and certified not have used any poisons during the process. The underground growers are not subject to these rules, nor to they give a $#@! if you end up smoking banned pesticides and fungicides.

Concentrates are as low as $10/gram here.

Pre rolled 1 gram wax infused joints are $5. Regular joints are $3.75.

Edibles are a little pricey to me, but that's probably because they don't do jack $#@! to me.

I also don't have to wait for Darnell to get off his bar back job at 1am to get a bag anymore, now I just have to make it to my store after 8am and before 11 pm, and not worry about going to jail on the way home.

Recreational flower? That's another term used for weak weed. lol
Medical as low as $40 an ounce? LMAO Yea and I've seen a Super Bowl ticket go for $40 too. I had the buddy most of us had. He said he could get great deals on weed except when we asked him, he couldn't get it.

Anyone can do a simple google search and see the prices and no where do I see $40 an ounce. Could someone charge that much as a special? Sure but to act like that's the norm is a joke. I see shake advertised for close to that little ~60-80 and ounce. Good luck with that.

 

[CoastieInColorado]

Recreational flower? That's another term used for weak weed. lol
Medical as low as $40 an ounce? LMAO Yea and I've seen a Super Bowl ticket go for $40 too. I had the buddy most of us had. He said he could get great deals on weed except when we asked him, he couldn't get it.

Anyone can do a simple google search and see the prices and no where do I see $40 an ounce. Could someone charge that much as a special? Sure but to act like that's the norm is a joke. I see shake advertised for close to that little ~60-80 and ounce. Good luck with that.

https://weedmaps.com/dispensaries/dr-releaf-inc-2?filter[anyCategories][]=flower

That's med prices, non member. I know for a fact he does $40-50 member med ounces- he's one of my clients. Everywhere does $100 rec ounces out the door, sometimes cheaper.

If you knew anything about, well ,anything, you'd know there's absolutely no difference whatsoever between rec and med, and that these THC percentages mean shit...

Blue tag/yellow tag. One's cheaper on taxes and start up costs. And that's it.

And, our recreational outdoor(lowest quality possible)"weak weed" tested on the lower end 18% (lemon sour diesel), and one of the strains was 32%, I can't remember which one right this second, but here's two of our tests...

I don't deal with my "buddies" out here, it's comical you mock as if I'm trying to impress you or anyone else here with what the grows I'm affiliated are capable of, and the prices out here and I look forward to seeing the results of your tested super strong outdoor "recreational" marijuana that you buddies grow, no doubt.......lol

 

[tebowlives]

https://weedmaps.com/dispensaries/dr-releaf-inc-2?filter[anyCategories][]=flower

That's med prices, non member. I know for a fact he does $40-50 member med ounces- he's one of my clients. Everywhere does $100 rec ounces out the door, sometimes cheaper.

If you knew anything about, well ,anything, you'd know there's absolutely no difference whatsoever between rec and med, and that these THC percentages mean $#@!...

Blue tag/yellow tag. One's cheaper on taxes and start up costs. And that's it.

And, our recreational outdoor(lowest quality possible)"weak weed" tested on the lower end 18% (lemon sour diesel), and one of the strains was 32%, I can't remember which one right this second, but here's two of our tests...


I don't deal with my "buddies" out here, it's comical you mock as if I'm trying to impress you or anyone else here with what the grows I'm affiliated are capable of, and the prices out here and I look forward to seeing the results of your tested super strong outdoor "recreational" marijuana that you buddies grow, no doubt.......lol

All you've done is run your mouth and have provided no proof. Me, me, me I, I ,I. You've already made up that weed prices are 40-80 an ounce. Why believe anything else you say?

Again I've done a simple google search and the prices you state are not available. That you try and make it to be the norm is laughable. I've already provided a link that proved your statements incorrect. They are nowhere near the norm and to say otherwise after all the available proof is dishonest. The cheap prices are for shake. Why sure that's medical. Why it's all medical.

Lets try this again and see if you ignore my post. Lets see if you deflect.
Again

from aug 2019
"Overall you can expect to pay an average of around $16 a gram or $283 an ounce in California. That’s slightly higher than what you would have paid at this time last year, when the average for a gram was $14.
Since recreational cannabis became legal on January 1, 2018, cannabis prices have inched up in California. That’s largely because there’s now a 15% excise tax on recreational marijuana. And that doesn’t include local government taxes."

Here are recreational dispensaries currently open in San Francisco:


City Store Name Average Price Per Gram
San Francisco The Apothecarium — Castro $17
San Francisco The Apothecarium — SoMa $17
San Francisco The Barbary Coast $16
San Francisco Grass Roots $15
San Francisco The Green Cross SF N/A
San Francisco Harvest Off Mission $14
San Francisco Harvest Off Geary $14
San Francisco Medithrive $18.50
San Francisco Purple Star MD $16
San Francisco Relief Herbal Cooperative $15
San Francisco Sffogg $17
San Francisco Shambhala Healing $18.50

https://marijuanarates.com/california-marijuana-prices/

 

[dannno]

Those are average prices.. I just looked at a local menu that was charging anywhere from $85/8th ($680/oz) down to $135 / oz, but I have bought a few ounces for $100-$120 off the medical market and some were quite good..

I feel like back in the day prices were pretty similar for really good herb and meh herb, nowadays the really good indoor still commands the old prices, but the outdoor that is sometimes almost as good, but usually not quite as good, is significantly cheaper.

 

[pcosmar]

Just for Reference,,since today was shopping day.

Stinky Pinky- Flower $6 gr,, got 2 (Real pretty Red shade Purple,,buy the name grabbed me)
Oz of bud shake,, $25 (great for the dugout)
Maui Wowi - Flower $12 3.5 gr

Concentrate, Crumble $8 gr got 2 (One each Indica ad Sativa)

Took a few minutes to decide and ring out all while the girls were Shopping Winco.

California has a lot more problems with over Government... and it drives everything up,,,but no Black Market is going to have the selection...

That Store,(one or many nearby) Has products at higher prices.. but also caters to the Budget shopper.

I AM a bargain shopper, and it has been my favorite store...

 

[tebowlives]

The listed prices above are not the paid price. Add 25%. If an ounce is listed at 200 it'll sell for 250-260 since the tax is 25%+

California

"Again, while estimates vary, this suggests that the typical Californian cannabis user could be facing a tax rate of between 45% and 80%, once these new increases go into effect on Jan. 1, 2020. "

https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/11/24/no-joke-california-will-increase-its-cannabis-tax.aspx

$50 pre-tax unit base price
$4.63 state and local sales tax @ 9.25 percent
($2.50 Oakland excise tax @ 5 percent)
($6.90 state excise tax)
($1.15 state cultivation tax)
$65.18 total (projected total)

https://www.greenstate.com/explained/much-will-cannabis-cost-californias-legal-marijuana-taxes/

Washington has a 37% tax on it


"On Saturday, Ivano Ipsaro Passione braved the snow to wait in a long line at NuMed dispensary in Bucktown, picking up a peanut butter edible bar and a vape cartridge for $78.

But there’s something else Passione picked up he wasn’t planning for: a hefty $26.37 tax on his bill. Like other dispensaries, NuMed doesn’t itemize the various taxes consumers pay, making them confusing to compute."

https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/0...mand-and-big-tax-driving-chicagos-pricey-pot/

 

[dannno]

The listed prices above are not the paid price. Add 25%. If an ounce is listed at 200 it'll sell for 250-260 since the tax is 25%+

California

"Again, while estimates vary, this suggests that the typical Californian cannabis user could be facing a tax rate of between 45% and 80%, once these new increases go into effect on Jan. 1, 2020. "

https://www.fool.com/investing/2019/11/24/no-joke-california-will-increase-its-cannabis-tax.aspx

$50 pre-tax unit base price
$4.63 state and local sales tax @ 9.25 percent
($2.50 Oakland excise tax @ 5 percent)
($6.90 state excise tax)
($1.15 state cultivation tax)
$65.18 total (projected total)

https://www.greenstate.com/explained/much-will-cannabis-cost-californias-legal-marijuana-taxes/

Washington has a 37% tax on it


"On Saturday, Ivano Ipsaro Passione braved the snow to wait in a long line at NuMed dispensary in Bucktown, picking up a peanut butter edible bar and a vape cartridge for $78.

But there’s something else Passione picked up he wasn’t planning for: a hefty $26.37 tax on his bill. Like other dispensaries, NuMed doesn’t itemize the various taxes consumers pay, making them confusing to compute."

https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/0...mand-and-big-tax-driving-chicagos-pricey-pot/

Medical patients in CA only pay the sales tax.

 

[pcosmar]

The listed prices above are not the paid price.

Washington has a 37% tax on it

The prices I posted (#32) are Price after Tax..

I spent less than $70 bucks... Out the door with no hassle

 

[bv3]

Chicago has people lining up outside the dispensaries like its a crack spot for yuppies.

 

[tebowlives]

Medical patients in CA only pay the sales tax.

This is from May 2019. it says one year.

a Medical Marijuana Identification (MMID) card that exempts you from “sales and use” tax for one year. Depending on your location, sales and use taxes are 7% to 10% of the total transaction (including other taxes!).

In all, there are three types of California cannabis taxes. The other two, another 15% or more, cannot be avoided.

https://www.eaze.com/article/taxes-cannabis-doesnt-medical-marijuana-card-exempt

 

[tebowlives]

The prices I posted (#32) are Price after Tax..

I spent less than $70 bucks... Out the door with no hassle

I know the difference between hamburger and a good steak. I've had a real good hamburger before but it doesn't compare to an average steak.
Link me to the dispensary, please. I want to see the prices. it's going to be the lower quality stuff that is cheap.

July 2019 avg prices

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https://marijuanarates.com/colorado-marijuana-prices/

 

[pcosmar]

I know the difference between hamburger and a good steak. I've had a real good hamburger before but it doesn't compare to an average steak.
Link me to the dispensary, please. I want to see the prices. it's going to be the lower quality stuff that is cheap.

They don't update the online menu often,, Always a wide selection from Budget to Connoisseur.
But I will Give Andy another free plug.
https://www.allbud.com/dispensaries/washington/longview/420-holiday
https://weedmaps.com/dispensaries/420-holiday
https://potguide.com/washington/marijuana-stores/longview/420-holiday/

I doubt specials are advertised as they are short lived..
Bud Shake varies but has been decent quality,, current "Daytripper" at $25 oz

The $8 grams of concentrate were 63% and 70% Indica and Sativa.. And "Elements of Air".. is quite nice (Scooby Snack)
https://www.facebook.com/elementsmj

 

[pcosmar]

Whats Next?

Interstate Trade and Competition,,
Industry Demand for Raw Material.

improved Health and well being.