Make Ron Run 3rd Party By Force If Necessary!!! EVERYONE MUST DO THIS NOW!!!!!

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Folks, let's face it, Dr. Paul owes us bigtime. If he won't run 3rd party of his own accord everyone MUST march straight down to Texas, tie Dr. Paul to a board and we march him straight to the Libertarian Party HQ.

Oh wait, they already nominated a candidate. Fine, so it's off to the Constitution Party HQ. Hmmm.....they don't nominate a candidate until April.

OK so that leaves us two options: we hide Dr. Paul in somebody's basement until April or we waterboard him until he comes around. I dunno, I'm open to suggestion. Who'd have thought politics could be so complicated?
 
Nasty, disrespectful tone in this post.

That said, there is A LOT of time between now, and the latest date for making that decision.

The Consitution Party nominating convention is in April. The Libertarian nominating convention is in May. An independent candidate would need to begin gathering signatures in Texas -- in May.

PLEASE, let Dr. Paul get through his March 4th primary for Congress. THEN, we can take a fresh look at this issue.
 
Haha! Nice.

But if the man doesn't wanna run, we can't force him. I sincerely hope he changes his mind. It doesn't matter though; I'll be writing in his name either way.

Also, Dr. Paul is right. If we can't get him elected on the Republican ticket, the Libertarian ticket will be that much tougher. Ballot access for 3rd parties is usually pretty tough. Especially here in AL. But anywhoo.
 
Folks, let's face it, Dr. Paul owes us bigtime. If he won't run 3rd party of his own accord everyone MUST march straight down to Texas, tie Dr. Paul to a board and we march him straight to the Libertarian Party HQ.

Oh wait, they already nominated a candidate. Fine, so it's off to the Constitution Party HQ. Hmmm.....they don't nominate a candidate until April.

OK so that leaves us two options: we hide Dr. Paul in somebody's basement until April or we waterboard him until he comes around. I dunno, I'm open to suggestion. Who'd have thought politics could be so complicated?

Two points:

1. This post is idiotic.

2. The Libertarian Party hasn't nominated anyone yet.
 
You were 20 years too late. Nobody recognizes satire anymore. It's been bred out by failing to teach it in government school. :D
 
Got a question for the original poster. What does it say on the back of all LP Membership cards?


"STATEMENT OF PRINCIPLES

We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose."

Given this statement and your force-able tone stating the Ron owes us something (which he does not) and he should run third party or you will make him. Is hypocritical!

You obviously DO NOT understand how freedom works.

Now using your ideology I can tell you to either walk out in front of a moving semi or I will push you. After all you owe for the time I wasted posting this post for you to ignorantly read and more than likely will not comprehend.
 
Ron Paul was Never Running For President

RP's campaign was an informational campaign, not a presidential campaign. Those who thought otherwise are feeling the letdown. RP said he never expected to get this far. He never expected that a fund raiser would drop millions on his campaign & frankly, he doesn't know what to do with it.

RP wanted to change thinking in the GOP; that's all. If he really wanted to revolt against the current system, he could use the $6million to legally challenge the IRS's authority to collect taxes. Don't hold your breath.

Ron Paul is not going to do anything different than he has been doing since he started. He wants his congressional seat back--that's all.

Ron Paul is an economist. He's not a politician & he's certainly not a revolutionary. There is no revolution.

A revolution is...
-getting in the face of your oppressor and saying, "No more!"
-sending in signed blank tax returns to the IRS
-legally challenging the Patriot Act
-going to court to reopen ground zero for a proper investigation
-finding those who knowing changed their routines on 9/11 and holding them legally responsible as co-conspirators
-getting access to information as to who did not send out interceptors to the planes approaching the towers and why
-marching into congress and demanding that they impeach Bush & Cheney
-going to the UN & demanding that they arrest Bush and Cheney for war crimes

THAT IS A REVOLUTION!!!!
If you want a revolution, you're going to have to leave RP behind. He has made it clear he wants no part of this. Stop giving him money and find a new leader--someone who knows the law & is willing to do what it takes to expose the truth. The foot soldiers are here, but without the right leader, the revolt ends here. The tyranny began at 9/11. Where it ends is up to you.
 
Nasty, disrespectful tone in this post.

That said, there is A LOT of time between now, and the latest date for making that decision.

The Consitution Party nominating convention is in April. The Libertarian nominating convention is in May. An independent candidate would need to begin gathering signatures in Texas -- in May.

PLEASE, let Dr. Paul get through his March 4th primary for Congress. THEN, we can take a fresh look at this issue.

So if RP secures his congressional seat then will he be able to run as a Libertarian? I am confused.
 
the revolution will live once the republican party dies,lets help it die quicker. THE GOP IS SCUM FOR WHAT THEY DID TO RON PAUL with their actions and inactions.
 
the revolution will live once the republican party dies,lets help it die quicker. THE GOP IS SCUM FOR WHAT THEY DID TO RON PAUL with their actions and inactions.

I agree more and more each passing day. It seems so futile to continue trying to plug a sinking ship whose captain is just creating more holes. Our only purpose in the GOP at this point should be to help break it apart. Let it go the way of the Whigs. We need to break off the reasonable conservatives and libertarians who will help form a new party, and let the establishment and war-mongering retards rot.

Ron Paul would get a second wind that would be like a Hurricane if he would only run third party or independent. The curious independents would flock to him, especially after dropping the (R) hanging around his neck that's nothing but a giant, dead, reeking albatross in this election.
 
We need to break off the reasonable conservatives and libertarians who will help form a new party,

Libertarians are conservatives, so Libertarian Party. If you mean religious conservatives, "social conservatives" that wish to force their morality on everyone else, you have the Constitution Party. If these were to merge into one big party, it would be exactly the GOP. The power structures, the ballot access, the name recognition is already there, so why not take it?
 
the only reason Ron Paul wouldn't run indy is if he doesn't get overwhelming support for it. That is the only reason he ran in this race. If hundreds of thousands of people write him letters saying they want him to run, they will send money, and get signatures, and canvass, then he will do it. As one of those soldiers that has given to him and worked for his campaign, and knowing that so many of my buddies in Iraq and soon to go back want him to be President so bad, I feel like he will consider that and do it for us troops (and of course for everyone else)--but I mean, it has to mean something incredibly huge that the nation's troops want him as their commander in chief so badly! Please Mr. Paul, please run, please fight, and we will fight with you for a win...

independent would be the only way to win. Libertarian caps it at 5- maybe 10%., guaranteed (open borders, legalize all drugs, abolish social security, pro NAFTA--why?--90% of people could never vote for that, let alone they already don't like the name "libertarian"--it's like libertine, hedonist, or some crap--yeah, I know Reagan said "a true conservative is a libertarian"--but that's not near enough. Constitution Party believes in Constitutional amendment to outlaw abortion nationwide--like a 13th Amendment for abortion--besides the fact that you won't get any dems with that, RP disagrees vehemently. Americans are ready to declare their independence--from the parties, the lobbying and special interests, the pro-amnesty Republican and the Dems who refused to end the war. And besides--if Ron Paul is anything, he is independent--he's always voted against his party. He disagrees with a ton of the Republican agenda, and the Libertarian agenda. He officially resigned from the Republican Party at one point.

Ross Perot only spent 64 million on his campaign--a little over 100 million in todays dollars. NOT BILLIONS. So anybody that says so is a fing idiot!--actually they are probably dishonest. And Ron Paul's grassroots is a hundred times more devoted and ready to sacrifice and fight. And the nay-sayers will say "We can't get on the ballots--it's impossible!" Oh, but Ross Perot could? Morons. And Ross Perot was in first place by 9 points (or 8--whatever it was) before he dropped out and said he was threatened (and he still got 19% of the vote--which is great--and Ron Paul is way more amazing than Perot, with way bigger support. And the conditions are similar--there was a recession in '92--now 70% of Americans polled think the economy is bad and likely to get worse, inflation is soaring and gas is still painfully expensive. And then you have the war. The Dems have the war, but they can't get the fiscal, immigration, gun, and school conservatives. The Republicans have what they have (i would argue, not much, with their current candidate, except they would be guaranteed 90% of the pro-war vote (so 30% maybe))--but 72% of Americans want the war to end.

If Ron Paul declared an indy run (after March 4th of course) then he could raise 25 million right off the bat. Everyone I know would give twice what they already have. We could get 200,000 precinct captains and get the 38 states back that are useless to us now in the Repub race because they've already voted, and have 7 months to canvass. Run a couple nationwide amazing infomercials.

Country over party. Remember what all the founders (the good ones) said about parties? Do you think they'd agree that Ron Paul should care more about offending the GOP than fighting for the Constitution, freedom, and government of the people?
 
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Good post, Colecrow. The GOP is a coffin that will never be supported by the American people as any sort of force for positive change again. Even if Ron Paul doesn't win as an independent, it would be the biggest shot in the arm there could be to the movement if he continues on all the way to November.

Let's just wait until after March 4th. Once he wins his Congressional primary, there's no longer any danger on that front. If he declares an independent run in late spring or early summer, then it will be too late for the GOP to run another candidate against him in TX-14, even if they're dumb enough to expel him from the party.
 
Haha! Nice.

But if the man doesn't wanna run, we can't force him. I sincerely hope he changes his mind. It doesn't matter though; I'll be writing in his name either way.

Also, Dr. Paul is right. If we can't get him elected on the Republican ticket, the Libertarian ticket will be that much tougher. Ballot access for 3rd parties is usually pretty tough. Especially here in AL. But anywhoo.

We can't force him to run but you'll write him in anyway. I'm confused.

Ron Paul ran as a service to this nation. He didn't expect to win. He wanted to help us make a statement. In short, his nation drafted him and he answered.

It's hard to get a name on the ballot here, too, but that's still how I intend to spend the summer. Then we go to the brokered G.O.P. convention and say, nominate Dr. Paul or we split your vote and the young crop of conservatives abandon you. In other words, we draft him again. We're on our way into a recession and the stock market has a way of doing it's serious tanking in late October--just in time for election day. Dr. Paul is the one candidate who understands the economy and even the most willfully ignorant voter seems to understand that much.

We need to get him set up on the ballot and keep spreading the word. Events look poised to do the rest. After all this work, why would we stop now?!
 
RP's campaign was an informational campaign, not a presidential campaign. Those who thought otherwise are feeling the letdown. RP said he never expected to get this far. He never expected that a fund raiser would drop millions on his campaign & frankly, he doesn't know what to do with it.

RP wanted to change thinking in the GOP; that's all. If he really wanted to revolt against the current system, he could use the $6million to legally challenge the IRS's authority to collect taxes. Don't hold your breath.

Ron Paul is not going to do anything different than he has been doing since he started. He wants his congressional seat back--that's all.

Ron Paul is an economist. He's not a politician & he's certainly not a revolutionary. There is no revolution.

A revolution is...
-getting in the face of your oppressor and saying, "No more!"
-sending in signed blank tax returns to the IRS
-legally challenging the Patriot Act
-going to court to reopen ground zero for a proper investigation
-finding those who knowing changed their routines on 9/11 and holding them legally responsible as co-conspirators
-getting access to information as to who did not send out interceptors to the planes approaching the towers and why
-marching into congress and demanding that they impeach Bush & Cheney
-going to the UN & demanding that they arrest Bush and Cheney for war crimes

THAT IS A REVOLUTION!!!!
If you want a revolution, you're going to have to leave RP behind. He has made it clear he wants no part of this. Stop giving him money and find a new leader--someone who knows the law & is willing to do what it takes to expose the truth. The foot soldiers are here, but without the right leader, the revolt ends here. The tyranny began at 9/11. Where it ends is up to you.


Wow, didn't you start THIS thread http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=124343 saying EXACTLY the same thing? I thought it looked familiar. :rolleyes:
 
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