MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT: Lawyers for Ron Paul Lawsuit NOTE: Having the lawsuit not up 4 debate

sailingaway said:
I'm not going to summarize it all. It is not expedited because the judge is just going to do the injunction part fast on an evidentiary hearing, not a trial, and let the larger trial continue at a slower pace. I think this is excellent because it allows other remedies to be added later for the fraud. The new complaint has been filed/ I havent' seen it. We are gathering verifiable evidence and ONLY verifiable evidence in a stickied thread in the forum -- it is not for discussion purposes, it is for posting facts and vetting them, and posting evidence of those facts, only.
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Sorry to post two in a row but I am curious. I see the efforts on here with the evidence thread and wiki pages, but even if we compile this evidence will Gilbert use it?
 
BSU kid said:
Sorry to post two in a row but I am curious. I see the efforts on here with the evidence thread and wiki pages, but even if we compile this evidence will Gilbert use it?
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Can't be sure but if we make it brief and easy he'll be more likely to.
 
CPUd said:
This is the lady's blog who gathered all the information about the fake slates in Maine :
http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2012/05/romney-campaign-shennegans-at-maine-gop.html



Someone had found a digital copy of the fake slate saved online, and in the metadata, it showed its full path as being created on a machine from a GOP policy office either at the state House or US House.

She took down his last name from her blog, probably because he was just a kid taking orders from someone else, and he was getting threats to his email, facebook, etc.
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Sorry for "kid", but "kid" needs to take his medicine. Hope that name gets revealed once again.

Regarding our own compilation of evidence, Im wondering how a "friend of the court" brief could possibly be filed. Gonna research that since it's common practice in big cases like this for interested third parties (but not direct parties to the case) to file informational briefs.

See here:
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Friend-of-the-court+brief

An amicus curiae educates the court on points of law that are in doubt, gathers or organizes information, or raises awareness about some aspect of the case that the court might otherwise miss. The person is usually, but not necessarily, an attorney, and is usually not paid for her or his expertise. An amicus curiae must not be a party to the case, nor an attorney in the case, but must have some knowledge or perspective that makes her or his views valuable to the court.

more info at link
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devil21 said:
Sorry for "kid", but "kid" needs to take his medicine. Hope that name gets revealed once again.

Regarding our own compilation of evidence, Im wondering how a "friend of the court" brief could possibly be filed. Gonna research that since it's common practice in big cases like this for interested third parties (but not direct parties to the case) to file informational briefs.

See here:
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Friend-of-the-court+brief
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I actually think the judge may have asked the RNC to outright invite the Dems to since any ruling would impact them too. One of the people there said something about that. I think that is a terrific idea.
 
Ive found a few examples of amicus curiae briefs and they're pretty straight-forward. It's never a quick job to draft up any legal pleading (particularly in federal court) but it's do-able if the pertinent information is readily available. I'll have to wait and see what Gilbert's new complaint says before thinking about what info should be included. Also, amicus briefs are rare in district trial courts and require either a motion for leave to file the brief (asking the judge to accept) or the express consent of BOTH parties to be filed. I could probably handle it but Im on the other side of the country and there's not much time to do it since each side needs 10 days notice of intent to file amicus. I'd also want Gilbert's express permission to do it. Not sure I want to get tangled up in that.
 
devil21 said:
Ive found a few examples of amicus curiae briefs and they're pretty straight-forward. It's never a quick job to draft up any legal pleading (particularly in federal court) but it's do-able if the pertinent information is readily available. I'll have to wait and see what Gilbert's new complaint says before thinking about what info should be included. Also, amicus briefs are rare in district trial courts and require either a motion for leave to file the brief (asking the judge to accept) or the express consent of BOTH parties to be filed. I could probably handle it but Im on the other side of the country and there's not much time to do it since each side needs 10 days notice of intent to file amicus. I'd also want Gilbert's express permission to do it. Not sure I want to get tangled up in that.
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I'd still kinda like us to work towards one since if nothing else we could give it in final to Gilbert and he could crib as he pleased. Also, I think someone will want to file one. Right now I do think we need to collect facts, and I think an amicus brief is a great idea. The judge indicated he was going to let the Dems file one, it sounded like, so if one is coming in anyhow....maybe we have a wider window. I think it is definitely worth looking into further.
 
Yeah, should still work toward at least collecting as much specific evidence/information as possible since this case may go on long after the convention comes and goes. Appeals are where amicus are much more common place and I would definitely expect an appeal, particularly if the RNC loses. I just don't think there's enough time to put together anything of substance, get proper notice to the court and the parties and have it filed by the time the judge rules on the new complaint.
 
devil21 said:
Yeah, should still work toward at least collecting as much specific evidence/information as possible since this case may go on long after the convention comes and goes. Appeals are where amicus are much more common place and I would definitely expect an appeal, particularly if the RNC loses. I just don't think there's enough time to put together anything of substance, get proper notice to the court and the parties and have it filed by the time the judge rules on the new complaint.
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I would be willing to put time into writing if that will help. I have very little experience but I have created my own deposition before and won the case (to get my dauthters body from a different state). I am a fast learner and if I can get enough input I can do it, I will put in whatever time it takes (I do need to put in 8-10 hrs on a software project in the next couple of days, but other than that I will work 16+ hours/day).
 
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Does anyone remember the video of Charlie Webster saying the Vote would be close, about 200 votes, before the straw poll?

He was being interviewed in a diner or something.

BangorDailyNews.com - Feb 14, 2012
“The Maine GOP Friday announced that a recount found that Mr. Romney had 2,269 votes to Texas Rep. Ron Paul’s 2,030 out of a total 5,814 votes cast. That 239 vote margin is slightly wider than the 194-vote edge the former Massachusetts governor had last Saturday night when the party announced its initial count.”
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It just seemed fishy.

I looked yesterday but coudn't locate it.
 
Scott_in_PA said:
Does anyone remember the video of Charlie Webster saying the Vote would be close, about 200 votes, before the straw poll?

He was being interviewed in a diner or something.



It just seemed fishy.

I looked yesterday but coudn't locate it.
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that vote was so fishy anyhow. they changed it because votes were lost in the spam filter and not counted. How that made Ron's votes go DOWN in certain areas, and only Ron's votes, I have no clue. Unless a vote eating black hole was in the spam filter and when discovered...
 
sailingaway said:
There is a video put together by someone there where she chases him and confronts him, but you don't see him actually passing the slates I don't think, in Maine, and then there is a still photo in another state, (shown in the video) and there is reporting that he was passing fake slates. I'll copy these to the sticky thread and clean them up later. We'll send the info with appropriate headings to Gilbert when we've cleaned it up and he can pick what he wants.
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Where is the amended complaint that Richard Gilbert said he filed yesterday, it is not in pacer??
You need to know what is in the complaint, so that you can proceed from there on collecting relevant information..
 
Why is the amended complaint not showing up in pacer??????
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@Tina61T @deanrobot The Court has filed the Amended Complaint & we shall now file a Motion To Expedite the case tomorrow

4m USA_Patriot_Press @USA_Free_Press
@CorinaKernan Our case is well alive and written the way the Judge feels most comfortable making a historic decision in our favor- hopefully
 
USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
@deanrobot The Judge did not wish to order US Marshals to be present.


2h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
@john_kosanke John, the Judge requested that protection issues be taken out of the case.
 
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