MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT: Lawyers for Ron Paul Lawsuit NOTE: Having the lawsuit not up 4 debate

If there is "proof" like pictures and voice recordings not just testimony...

Then I believe that would reach the bar for interstate collusion..

Really though a lawyer needs to make that call.:o


sailingaway said:
Ben Swann says the letter with the new non-rules based 'requirements' for Maine delegates came from Boston. The attorney Romney's campaign sent to the Maine convention was from Boston. (The one in Nevada was from CA.) the guy called 'Charlie Cheater' who was seen in at least two states and video taped in one with a still photo in another, according to witnesses, who was passing fake slates, was told, according to a witness, by that attorney that he had done a good job and that the attorney would be looking for work for him 'Back in Boston'.

For what it is worth.

tod, if you think this needs to go into the stickied thread, let me know.
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tod evans said:
If there is "proof" like pictures and voice recordings not just testimony...

Then I believe that would reach the bar for interstate collusion..

Really though a lawyer needs to make that call.:o
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There is a video put together by someone there where she chases him and confronts him, but you don't see him actually passing the slates I don't think, in Maine, and then there is a still photo in another state, (shown in the video) and there is reporting that he was passing fake slates. I'll copy these to the sticky thread and clean them up later. We'll send the info with appropriate headings to Gilbert when we've cleaned it up and he can pick what he wants.
 
sailingaway said:
There is a video put together by someone there where she chases him and confronts him, but you don't see him actually passing the slates I don't think, in Maine, and then there is a still photo in another state, (shown in the video) and there is reporting that he was passing fake slates. I'll copy these to the sticky thread and clean them up later. We'll send the info with appropriate headings to Gilbert when we've cleaned it up and he can pick what he wants.
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Unfortunately "He said-She said" evidence never gets far, just because some dude is there doesn't give credence to the claim he was employed by an out of state law firm..
 
sailingaway said:
Ben Swann says the letter with the new non-rules based 'requirements' for Maine delegates came from Boston. The attorney Romney's campaign sent to the Maine convention was from Boston. (The one in Nevada was from CA.) the guy called 'Charlie Cheater' who was seen in at least two states and video taped in one with a still photo in another, according to witnesses, who was passing fake slates, was told, according to a witness, by that attorney that he had done a good job and that the attorney would be looking for work for him 'Back in Boston'.
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For clarification, I know I had mentioned the compromise letters came from Boston- .. after watching it again, I'm not sure if that is true. He is showing the manila envelope and saying Boston is where the challenge notification letters came from, but nothing about where the compromise letter postmark is from.
 
tod evans said:
Unfortunately "He said-She said" evidence never gets far, just because some dude is there doesn't give credence to the claim he was employed by an out of state law firm..
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The fake slates guy from Maine is confirmed to have been paid by the romney campaign, per the FEC filings (not sure where the link to that is, but someone has it) Gilbert knows about this, and has tweeted about it, so he should have some of this information.

also:


USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
@Tina61T @deanrobot The Court has filed the Amended Complaint & we shall now file a Motion To Expedite the case tomorrow


4m USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
@CorinaKernan Our case is well alive and written the way the Judge feels most comfortable making a historic decision in our favor- hopefully
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tod evans said:
Unfortunately "He said-She said" evidence never gets far, just because some dude is there doesn't give credence to the claim he was employed by an out of state law firm..
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Charlie cheater got paid by romneys campaign. It's in the FEC reports.
 
kathy88 said:
Charlie cheater got paid by romneys campaign. It's in the FEC reports.
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This combined with pictures/video and testimony would seem to make a compelling piece of evidence...


[edit] next step is "proving" that this fellow was acting at the direction of the RNC
 
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This is the lady's blog who gathered all the information about the fake slates in Maine :
http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2012/05/romney-campaign-shennegans-at-maine-gop.html

next step is "proving" that this fellow was acting at the direction of the RNC
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Someone had found a digital copy of the fake slate saved online, and in the metadata, it showed its full path as being created on a machine from a GOP policy office either at the state House or US House.

She took down his last name from her blog, probably because he was just a kid taking orders from someone else, and he was getting threats to his email, facebook, etc.
 
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tod evans said:
This combined with pictures/video and testimony would seem to make a compelling piece of evidence...


[edit] next step is "proving" that this fellow was acting at the direction of the RNC
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I'm at a softball game but I can try and find that info from the FEC when I get home. I may have PDFd it.
 
tod evans said:
Unfortunately "He said-She said" evidence never gets far, just because some dude is there doesn't give credence to the claim he was employed by an out of state law firm..
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well, he was at two different state conventions and actually courts exist to determine fact. It will be one piece in the hopper but if it fits with all the rest, it becomes more compelling imho.
 
lawdida said:
Thanks for reading my post and signing your insult. It added a bit of warmth to the whole thing.
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I am happy to contribute to Dr. Paul's candidacy and victory on the cultural front. See..yer even good with happy bullshit endings. Hollywood would be clamoring for ya if they got a snippet of yer writing.

Rev9
 
TheGrinchWhoStoleDC said:
Holy shit, in the 2 days since I last read this thread, it's doubled in size to 42 pages (the reason I set it to 20 posts a page or it's doubled to 82 by now!)

Anyone got a cliffsnotes version of what's happening or did a troll fight just break out?
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Ditto!

What I did see from the last paragraph of the legal decision in the other thread is that the defense's motion to dismiss was granted, however, our side was given the option to re-submit the case and get a third bite at the apple. It wasn't put together properly, but the judge apparently saw some merit in it.

Now the really, really bad news: Because the case was botched and as a result dismissed, the request for an expedited trial was thrown out. ie: it will not be heard before the convention and it a total waste of time.

Did I get that right or is there more? I'm sure not going to go read 40 pages of posts to find out...

The other thing is that the official campaign hired a legal team to protect our delegates but I haven't heard of anything being filed from them.

thanks,

-t
 
tangent4ronpaul said:
Ditto!

What I did see from the last paragraph of the legal decision in the other thread is that the defense's motion to dismiss was granted, however, our side was given the option to re-submit the case and get a third bite at the apple. It wasn't put together properly, but the judge apparently saw some merit in it.

Now the really, really bad news: Because the case was botched and as a result dismissed, the request for an expedited trial was thrown out. ie: it will not be heard before the convention and it a total waste of time.

Did I get that right or is there more? I'm sure not going to go read 40 pages of posts to find out...

The other thing is that the official campaign hired a legal team to protect our delegates but I haven't heard of anything being filed from them.

thanks,

-t
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I'm not going to summarize it all. It is not expedited because the judge is just going to do the injunction part fast on an evidentiary hearing, not a trial, and let the larger trial continue at a slower pace. I think this is excellent because it allows other remedies to be added later for the fraud. The new complaint has been filed/ I havent' seen it. We are gathering verifiable evidence and ONLY verifiable evidence in a stickied thread in the forum -- it is not for discussion purposes, it is for posting facts and vetting them, and posting evidence of those facts, only.
 
sailingaway said:
I'm not going to summarize it all. It is not expedited because the judge is just going to do the injunction part fast on an evidentiary hearing, not a trial, and let the larger trial continue at a slower pace. I think this is excellent because it allows other remedies to be added later for the fraud. The new complaint has been filed/ I havent' seen it. We are gathering verifiable evidence and ONLY verifiable evidence in a stickied thread in the forum -- it is not for discussion purposes, it is for posting facts and vetting them, and posting evidence of those facts, only.
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Thank you SA! I guess all is not lost!
+rep (er remind me to rep you - I have to spread some around before +reping you again...)

kathy88 said:
You know you can set preferences to show more posts per page right?
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Yes - it's still the same amount of reading, just a little less "next batch please"...

-t
 
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