Mainstream Republican candidate killer question for Politico debate. Comment here

34. Question on: Foreign Policy (Not Iraq)
Why does the only candidate who supports the withdrawl of troops get the most money from troops?
 
 
Royksopp said:
This thread is doing so much harm, yet people are just blindly voting without putting any thought in.
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1. The questions we posted were posted after hours of deliberation between over 30 people. Just because were not one of the doesnt mean it didnt happen.

2. The questions are not designed so that RP gets the best questions - the questions are designed so that the other candidates get the best questions (from RP's perspective). None of these questions are for RP specifically - they have been submitted under the For all candidates category.

3.) We agree that we must attract undecided voters. Heres how we thing we do that with our questions.

1.) Focus on the economy. Link the economy to Foreign Policy (which RP stressed in the last debate).
2.) Focus on the More Wars comment by McCain - even war mongering republicans do NOT want another war, not at this time. Given 60%-70% of the country is against this war, no republican is going to win the WH promoting more wars. So the candidates have to decide when they get asked this question - do they support McCains's point and appear to be war mongers, or do they distance themselves from McCain and thereby move more towards RP. Either way, RP wins even if he doesnt get to answer
3.) The housing bubble question is deceptively simple. McCain will fall flat on this one. Even Romney may be very vunerable
4.) The fed question was the most debated - whether to include it or not and the rationale was that it may help RP to educate voters that the fed is private and had a big hand in the housing bubble (which everyone relates to).

I could spend a lot more energy explaining the rationale but at this point its moot. The sad thing is that we would have loved to have you on the team debating and honing the questions. Perhaps next time. Remember, nothing is perfect - at the end of the day, a politician can weasel out of any question.

Right now, its a choice between our questions and NASA, Darfur etc. Take your pick.
Whatever you do, please do not work against a team that has the same objectives as you - even if theres disagreement on how to get there.
 
zackmario said:
1. The questions we posted were posted after hours of deliberation between over 30 people. Just because were not one of the doesnt mean it didnt happen.

2. The questions are not designed so that RP gets the best questions - the questions are designed so that the other candidates get the best questions (from RP's perspective). None of these questions are for RP specifically - they have been submitted under the For all candidates category.

3.) We agree that we must attract undecided voters. Heres how we thing we do that with our questions.

1.) Focus on the economy. Link the economy to Foreign Policy (which RP stressed in the last debate).
2.) Focus on the More Wars comment by McCain - even war mongering republicans do NOT want another war, not at this time. Given 60%-70% of the country is against this war, no republican is going to win the WH promoting more wars. So the candidates have to decide when they get asked this question - do they support McCains's point and appear to be war mongers, or do they distance themselves from McCain and thereby move more towards RP. Either way, RP wins even if he doesnt get to answer
3.) The housing bubble question is deceptively simple. McCain will fall flat on this one. Even Romney may be very vunerable
4.) The fed question was the most debated - whether to include it or not and the rationale was that it may help RP to educate voters that the fed is private and had a big hand in the housing bubble (which everyone relates to).

I could spend a lot more energy explaining the rationale but at this point its moot. The sad thing is that we would have loved to have you on the team debating and honing the questions. Perhaps next time. Remember, nothing is perfect - at the end of the day, a politician can weasel out of any question.

Right now, its a choice between our questions and NASA, Darfur etc. Take your pick.
Whatever you do, please do not work against a team that has the same objectives as you - even if theres disagreement on how to get there.
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Goto my thread and debate the points there.

Check every single republican vote poll.

You are doing serious damage with this. Please stop bumping this.
 
Royksopp said:
Goto my thread and debate the points there.

Check every single republican vote poll.

You are doing serious damage with this. Please stop bumping this.
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I did go to your thread and posted the same response I did here.

We obviously dont agree - and thats fine. Why dont you suggest what the questions should be instead of shooting down others efforts. I mean it - post your question and it its better I will stay up 24 hours to get people to vote for it. I think we agree on some of the basics of what makes a good question - test it out - post your questions.

Until then, let people make up their own mind.
Although I agree with the issues behind all the typical RP questions about the constitution, gold standard impeaching bush etc., I think they will damage RP in the debate if they get asked - BUT YOU DONT SEE ME TELLING PEOPLE WHY THEY ARE BAD QUESTIONS AND STARTING THREADS TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE! Instead I posted what I and many many others believe are great questions and asked people to vote for them. People are not stupid - they are NOT blindly voting. They make their own assessment.

Go in peace brother!
 
zackmario said:
1. The questions we posted were posted after hours of deliberation between over 30 people. Just because were not one of the doesnt mean it didnt happen.
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"30"? I find that hard to believe since they have spelling errors.

zackmario said:
2. The questions are not designed so that RP gets the best questions - the questions are designed so that the other candidates get the best questions (from RP's perspective). None of these questions are for RP specifically - they have been submitted under the For all candidates category.
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Stop saying they are 'designed'. Please link to any thread where 30 people were designing these questions. I am not a writer, but I have worked in a spin room. You saying these are designed is insulting to the profession. Surely you understand that giving McCain an open ended softball question about foreign policy helps him??

zackmario said:
3.) We agree that we must attract undecided voters.
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I agree, but I'd prefer the person we attract them to is Ron Paul.

zackmario said:
I could spend a lot more energy explaining the rationale but at this point its moot. The sad thing is that we would have loved to have you on the team debating and honing the questions. Perhaps next time. Remember, nothing is perfect - at the end of the day, a politician can weasel out of any question.
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We agree that a politician can weasel out of any question... but if the questions include stats it is a lot tougher (plus the question itself would at least bring something to light). If any of your questions had a stat like "...the latest CNN opinion poll shows 63% of the American public opposes the war..." it would have at least had the POTENTIAL to help Paul.

zackmario said:
Right now, its a choice between our questions and NASA, Darfur etc. Take your pick.
Whatever you do, please do not work against a team that has the same objectives as you - even if theres disagreement on how to get there.
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I think you believe you are helping Paul, and I think getting good questions to the top is an awesome effort... I just think the current set of questions you have hurt Ron Paul and I still think this thread should be deleted/moved.

I do not like cause confusion in the RP ranks like this... and I feel crappy blasting what I honestly think is a well-intentioned effort... but in the end I think these questions are hurting Ron Paul.
 
PledgeForPaul said:
"30"? I find that hard to believe since they have spelling errors.


Stop saying they are 'designed'. Please link to any thread where 30 people were designing these questions. I am not a writer, but I have worked in a spin room. You saying these are designed is insulting to the profession. Surely you understand that giving McCain an open ended softball question about foreign policy helps him??


I agree, but I'd prefer the person we attract them to is Ron Paul.


We agree that a politician can weasel out of any question... but if the questions include stats it is a lot tougher (plus the question itself would at least bring something to light). If any of your questions had a stat like "...the latest CNN opinion poll shows 63% of the American public opposes the war..." it would have at least had the POTENTIAL to help Paul.



I think you believe you are helping Paul, and I think getting good questions to the top is an awesome effort... I just think the current set of questions you have hurt Ron Paul and I still think this thread should be deleted/moved.

I do not like cause confusion in the RP ranks like this... and I feel crappy blasting what I honestly think is a well-intentioned effort... but in the end I think these questions are hurting Ron Paul.
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We debated the point of including stats like you stated but decided against it. 1.) The easiest way to get out of the question is to question the validity of the stats. We didnt want to give them that out. 2.) CNN would have to validate the stat before asking the question and we simply didnt believe they would make the effort.

What exactly is the issue you have with these questions anyway.. in a few lines please - no time to read have a page of responses.
 
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