Maine Saturday Open Thread

[GregVernon]

@BDNPolitics says results should be known around 5-ish.

 

[pauliticalfan]

BDNPolitics: RE: Count at the caucus in Hancock: 135 is a solid estimate of the initial number in the room. Not all stayed for the vote. #mepolitics

WTF?

 

[wstrucke]

No, I didn't make calls. I added the phone numbers. I ran facebook ads. They're still running actually, when I hear they've broken off into towns, I'll stop em.

Campaign Reach?
2,720
Frequency?
24.0

I hit 2720 males 17-44 an average of 24 times. Cost almost nothing.

I've also been asking people, offering $100 to rent out 2 tables in a restaurant to use as a grassroots HQ for extra GOTV.

Neither the official campaign or the grassroots has any interest in getting our base to the polls. If an 18 year old male likes Ron Paul, we'll call his grandma on the phone.

The heart of our GOTV system is lists that 18 year old males aren't on. The 18 year old male is never told anything by anybody about when and where the election is. How to register, anything like that. Completely ignored. We send superbrochures to supervoters. "Because they vote" But they might be voting because they're bugged all the time, get mail they throw away. Does the 18 year old get any reminders? NO. We just whine because they don't show up.

It's hard, I know. We need to solve this problem (the fact that we don't do any Extra GOTV) if we're going actually win votes, instead of just delegates.

Interesting. Would it be possibly to get a list of all males between 18 and 24 or something in certain areas to send targeted advertising to?

 

[pauliticalfan]

@BDNPolitics says results should be known around 5-ish.

In Washington? Geez.

 

[CTRattlesnake]

BDNPolitics: RE: Count at the caucus in Hancock: 135 is a solid estimate of the initial number in the room. Not all stayed for the vote. #mepolitics

WTF?

Yeah, that makes no sense?

WHy would you go to a caucus, and then leave before the vote?

 

[sailingaway]

I received this response to this tweet I sent:

sailing @usernamenuse
@BDNPolitics Have all the Hancock County caucuses been held? What was the result of the last one there, do you know?

BDN Maine Politics @BDNPolitics
@usernamenuse Still waiting on results from the caucus in Eastbrook, which comprises six towns in Hancock County #mepolitics
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[parocks]

given they threw away the ballots, per Webster, and all vote numbers are completely whatever he writes down, it is a bit hard to see this one going our way. We know what NOT to allow in future caucuses -- private vote reporting.

Well, on Feb 4, we passed this motion in my town, which kept a permanent record in the town, and sent a copy to the county. That way there would be records, and they couldn't play games. The flyer was all over my county. I personally introduced the motion in my town. And the .pdf is on my website http://parocks.com/ronpaul/motions4up2.pdf (small file - lo res) and http://parocks.com/ronpaul/motions4up.pdf (large file -hi res) . I didn't invent this motion, it was Cynthia Rosen's (I think), I suggested distributing this motion in typed form on the internet, and we liked that idea. I assume the campaign distributed it the next weekend, so I assume that there are records on file pretty much everywhere we had an informed presence.

 

[WD-NY]

are there really no RPF members at any of these Maine caucuses today??

 

[rp08orbust]

BDNPolitics: RE: Count at the caucus in Hancock: 135 is a solid estimate of the initial number in the room. Not all stayed for the vote. #mepolitics

WTF?

Yeah, WTF. I know most don't stick around for delegate selection, but not even bothering to vote in the straw poll is complete WTF, unless they were turned away for being ineligible.

 

[sailingaway]

Well, on Feb 4, we passed this motion in my town, which kept a permanent record in the town, and sent a copy to the county. That way there would be records, and they couldn't play games. The flyer was all over my county. I personally introduced the motion in my town. And the .pdf is on my website http://parocks.com/ronpaul/motions4up2.pdf (small file - lo res) and http://parocks.com/ronpaul/motions4up.pdf (large file -hi res) . I didn't invent this motion, it was Cynthia Rosen's (I think), I suggested distributing this motion in typed form on the internet, and we liked that idea. I assume the campaign distributed it the next weekend, so I assume that there are records on file pretty much everywhere we had an informed presence.

I am copying this post for the campaign suggestion box, just in case

 

[TheGrinch]

Yeah, WTF. I know most don't stick around for delegate selection, but not even bothering to vote in the straw poll is complete WTF, unless they were turned away for being ineligible.

That would be my only worry... Otherwise I couldn't imagine RP supporters coming and not voting, so if they were all allowed, one would think it's far more likely supporters of the other candidates.

 

[JJ2]

@BDNPolitics says results should be known around 5-ish.

It takes 3 1/2 hours????

 

[neverseen]

Ben Swann WXIX
Photo from 1 caucus today in Washington County... I am told 60 to 70 percent are Paul supporters http://t.co/2p2TWsvn

 

[sailingaway]

Ben Swann @Fox19BenSwann
Photo from 1 caucus today in Washington County... I am told 60 to 70 percent are Paul supporters twitpic.com/8lnhow

 

[sailingaway]

lol! shows me for taking time to thank him before posting!

 

[Lightweis]

so whats going to happen???

 

[rp08orbust]

Ben Swann @Fox19BenSwann
Photo from 1 caucus today in Washington County... I am told 60 to 70 percent are Paul supporters twitpic.com/8lnhow

60% * 300 = 180. It looks like it could be close enough that Webster will be able to fudge the result he wants.

 

[jcarcinogen]

Are they going to throw away the ballots this time too?

 

[carterm]

.7 x 300 = 210 votes. if we get the tactical vote maybe .8 x 300 = 240 votes? (this would not be enough to offset romney's numbers)

We need to hope there are more than 300 people there.

 

[sailingaway]

60% * 300 = 180. It looks like it could be close enough that Webster will be able to fudge the result he wants.

If we get that much I'm calling it a win, but if it is really only 135 there as some say.....

Honestly, if it falls in the 'fudge factor' I will believe it is ours. We just have to have preserved vote tallies going forward.