Maine - a successful caucus

terryhamel

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With Maine's multi-day caucus and the GOP unbinding delegates to support a candidate until the State convention in May, it would seem the delegate results are difficult to know, but caucus attendees reported to the website www.ronpaulforums.com, that Ron Paul is leading! Since Ron Paul supporters are liberty oriented, they never go back to status quo establishment thinking and always advocate the message. While the other CFR candidates supporters have time to be converted, Maine is looking like sure win. Maine is an important state because it is winner take all.

Just like Nevada, the media is reporting Romney won, but the reports are based on straw poll results and not the delegates. The MSM has not and will not give Ron Paul any fair coverage, so it's important to remember a strategy that depends on favorable MSM coverage is a strategy that will fail. The solution is to bypass the media.

The three largest cities that cast the most delegates are Portland, Lewiston/Auburn and Bangor. Portland's caucus lasted 6 hours partly due to a paid Romney staffer yelling as people cast their ballots. The Romney staffer also circulated a list of 23 names that favored Ron Paul, but totalled 65 names instead of the 59 in attendance. Nearly a dozen ballots were thrown out when this was discovered, but eventually, they voted for delegates by their number on the ballot and agreed that any ballot with more than 59 names on it would be invalid. Although dirty tricks ensued, Ron Paul still prevailed with 30 of 59 delegates.

Portland - 30/59
Bangor - 12/43
Augusta City - 13/20?
Scarborouguh - 1/20. The only 17 year old delegate was a RP supporter from a 60+ year old crowd.
Belfast - 6/13. One will be swayed at the State convention.
Lincoln - 8/11
Lee - 5/6
Bucksport - 5/8. The Bucksport GOP Chair is a Ron Paul Supporter.
Albion - 4/7
Sidney - 3/11
Liberty - 2/5
Waldo - 2/4
Washburn - 2/3
Stockton Springs - 2/3
Denmark - 1/2
Northport - 1/2. The other will be converted.
Waterville - won, no numbers yet
Winslo - won, no numbers yet
Thompson Island - unknown
Orono - unknown
Kennebec County towns are rumored to do well.

One member on www.ronpaulforums.com, "RufusTDoofus", reports "I knew that I would most likely become a delegate simply by showing up. My wife and I were the only two people from our town to show up and by default we became the Chairperson and Secretary for our town. We're both delegates now. Our town can send up to 7 delegates to the State convention. My wife and I will be recruiting five other people to fill those open spots."

At the precinct chaired by "Gagonstudio", only 3 of 5 people showed up. 2 were RP supporters. As chairperson, he can appoint two more delegates if he moves quickly to counter the Maine GOP filling the slots.
 
I realize there are more caucuses today with probably the same result for Romney. However, his 'people' probably won't show up with the straw vote over. A great chance to pick up more delegates.

I thought somewhere it was stated that there are potentially 3000 delegates to the state convention. Will most of those not exist because many towns had no caucus or will they be seated by county/state chairs?

Obviously the potential for a defeat by the establishment forces within the party. Or have the Maine folks already planned that out? (My guess is yes with how well you orchestrated everything yesterday).
 
I realize there are more caucuses today with probably the same result for Romney. However, his 'people' probably won't show up with the straw vote over. A great chance to pick up more delegates.

I thought somewhere it was stated that there are potentially 3000 delegates to the state convention. Will most of those not exist because many towns had no caucus or will they be seated by county/state chairs?

Obviously the potential for a defeat by the establishment forces within the party. Or have the Maine folks already planned that out? (My guess is yes with how well you orchestrated everything yesterday).

I think that Romney supporters will be out in full force today. I'll bet that Romney supporters (and McCain supporters) were getting automated phone calls and emails all night long. Don't forget that everyone is in this to win. Wouldn't you be sending out the troops after reading the posts on this forum?

Ron Paul supporters in Maine - Please redouble your efforts to get out today in places where you still have a Caucus. We need you!
We appreciate everything that you've done. Thank you for your hard work.
 
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What's the delegate count for the other guys? Hopefully the ones where we have less than half are torn between the McRomnees.
 
With Maine's multi-day caucus and the GOP unbinding delegates to support a candidate until the State convention in May, it would seem the delegate results are difficult to know, but caucus attendees reported to the website www.ronpaulforums.com, that Ron Paul is leading! Since Ron Paul supporters are liberty oriented, they never go back to status quo establishment thinking and always advocate the message. While the other CFR candidates supporters have time to be converted, Maine is looking like sure win. Maine is an important state because it is winner take all.

Just like Nevada, the media is reporting Romney won, but the reports are based on straw poll results and not the delegates. The MSM has not and will not give Ron Paul any fair coverage, so it's important to remember a strategy that depends on favorable MSM coverage is a strategy that will fail. The solution is to bypass the media.

The three largest cities that cast the most delegates are Portland, Lewiston/Auburn and Bangor. Portland's caucus lasted 6 hours partly due to a paid Romney staffer yelling as people cast their ballots. The Romney staffer also circulated a list of 23 names that favored Ron Paul, but totalled 65 names instead of the 59 in attendance. Nearly a dozen ballots were thrown out when this was discovered, but eventually, they voted for delegates by their number on the ballot and agreed that any ballot with more than 59 names on it would be invalid. Although dirty tricks ensued, Ron Paul still prevailed with 30 of 59 delegates.

Portland - 30/59
Bangor - 12/43
Augusta City - 13/20?
Scarborouguh - 1/20. The only 17 year old delegate was a RP supporter from a 60+ year old crowd.
Belfast - 6/13. One will be swayed at the State convention.
Lincoln - 8/11
Lee - 5/6
Bucksport - 5/8. The Bucksport GOP Chair is a Ron Paul Supporter.
Albion - 4/7
Sidney - 3/11
Liberty - 2/5
Waldo - 2/4
Washburn - 2/3
Stockton Springs - 2/3
Denmark - 1/2
Northport - 1/2. The other will be converted.
Waterville - won, no numbers yet
Winslo - won, no numbers yet
Thompson Island - unknown
Orono - unknown
Kennebec County towns are rumored to do well.

One member on www.ronpaulforums.com, "RufusTDoofus", reports "I knew that I would most likely become a delegate simply by showing up. My wife and I were the only two people from our town to show up and by default we became the Chairperson and Secretary for our town. We're both delegates now. Our town can send up to 7 delegates to the State convention. My wife and I will be recruiting five other people to fill those open spots."

At the precinct chaired by "Gagonstudio", only 3 of 5 people showed up. 2 were RP supporters. As chairperson, he can appoint two more delegates if he moves quickly to counter the Maine GOP filling the slots.

How did we figure out which delegates support who?
 
terry and all,

Check out my comment on meeting on Sunday.

All might want to keep it quite for now. They are still trying to get additional delegates.
 
Do you think that the Superbowl will help us or hurt us today?
 
So how many precincts are left to report besides the ones we know here? So far that's only 217 delegates headed to the state convention... that seems small...
although 97/217 is a good start.
 
winner take all?

Is Maine really a winner-take-all state? I know that delegates to the state convention aren't bound by the presidential preference poll, and I thought I saw somewhere that delegates to the national convention aren't bound either.

Is there some rule at the state convention where the majority gets to pick the full slate of delegates to the national convention?
 
I think it is essentially winner take all in the sense that if someone has a majority of state delegates, they can elect the national delegates they want. Just like the state delegates, the national delegates are not "officially pledged," but we would know who they, in actuality, intend to support.
 
As far as I can tell, 513 precincts and 3867 total state delegates. It doesn't help a whole lot to report just a few towns unless they are huge. After that I really have no idea how the delegates to the national convention are decided, but I imagine that it is in much the same way. My speculation is that majority of state delegates gives all delegates nationally.
The important thing to note on this is that almost all of the delegates are from outside of small towns. This is why it is important to get to voters everywhere, not just in the cities. Canvassing and being precinct leaders is vital in coming caucuses.
 
Only about 380 of the 492 towns in Maine were holding Caucuses. However, if a couple of like minded RP supporters wanted to hold a caucus (Maine technically can caucus up until March 30) they could (according to State GOP rules)

One town I know of did organize a last minute Caucus. Chebeague Island, which is Maine's newest town (they seceded from Cumberland on July 4th of this year) had a couple of RP supporters who did hold a caucus and took 4 of the islands five delegate spots. (their straw poll went 4 RP, 2 McCain, 2 Romney, 1 Huck, and 1 for Ronald Reagan)
 
And just to add...If a town does not caucus, its delegates are LOST and not awarded (same holds true if a town can't fill all of it's delegate spots, those empty spots are lost and not awarded)
 
And just to add...If a town does not caucus, its delegates are LOST and not awarded (same holds true if a town can't fill all of it's delegate spots, those empty spots are lost and not awarded)

Well, Romey will not let any of them be lost.. If there is any way we could get a majority of the delegates in ANY state we would be unstoppable there..
 
With Maine's multi-day caucus and the GOP unbinding delegates to support a candidate until the State convention in May, it would seem the delegate results are difficult to know, but caucus attendees reported to the website www.ronpaulforums.com, that Ron Paul is leading! Since Ron Paul supporters are liberty oriented, they never go back to status quo establishment thinking and always advocate the message. While the other CFR candidates supporters have time to be converted, Maine is looking like sure win. Maine is an important state because it is winner take all.

Just like Nevada, the media is reporting Romney won, but the reports are based on straw poll results and not the delegates. The MSM has not and will not give Ron Paul any fair coverage, so it's important to remember a strategy that depends on favorable MSM coverage is a strategy that will fail. The solution is to bypass the media.

The three largest cities that cast the most delegates are Portland, Lewiston/Auburn and Bangor. Portland's caucus lasted 6 hours partly due to a paid Romney staffer yelling as people cast their ballots. The Romney staffer also circulated a list of 23 names that favored Ron Paul, but totalled 65 names instead of the 59 in attendance. Nearly a dozen ballots were thrown out when this was discovered, but eventually, they voted for delegates by their number on the ballot and agreed that any ballot with more than 59 names on it would be invalid. Although dirty tricks ensued, Ron Paul still prevailed with 30 of 59 delegates.

Portland - 30/59
Bangor - 12/43
Augusta City - 13/20?
Scarborouguh - 1/20. The only 17 year old delegate was a RP supporter from a 60+ year old crowd.
Belfast - 6/13. One will be swayed at the State convention.
Lincoln - 8/11
Lee - 5/6
Bucksport - 5/8. The Bucksport GOP Chair is a Ron Paul Supporter.
Albion - 4/7
Sidney - 3/11
Liberty - 2/5
Waldo - 2/4
Washburn - 2/3
Stockton Springs - 2/3
Denmark - 1/2
Northport - 1/2. The other will be converted.
Waterville - won, no numbers yet
Winslo - won, no numbers yet
Thompson Island - unknown
Orono - unknown
Kennebec County towns are rumored to do well.

One member on www.ronpaulforums.com, "RufusTDoofus", reports "I knew that I would most likely become a delegate simply by showing up. My wife and I were the only two people from our town to show up and by default we became the Chairperson and Secretary for our town. We're both delegates now. Our town can send up to 7 delegates to the State convention. My wife and I will be recruiting five other people to fill those open spots."

At the precinct chaired by "Gagonstudio", only 3 of 5 people showed up. 2 were RP supporters. As chairperson, he can appoint two more delegates if he moves quickly to counter the Maine GOP filling the slots.

That is 108 out of 217 where you give numbers, that is 49.8%. So Ron Paul is going to win the Maine Caucuses, it looks like.
 
It's interesting that Dr Paul get more contributions from actual servicemen and servicewomen, while his opponents do well in places (like So. Carolina) where the military-industrial complex is a big part of the local economy.

Bangor has a military presence, doesn't it? What about Scarborough?
 
seems that people who are away of MSM get their mind cleared from all the junk.
 
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