Magnesium Deficiency: The Source of Most Modern Chronic Illness?

Magnesium citrate may cause you to retain fluid. It's good for people who are chronically constipated.

Here is the stuff I use, and I love it.

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http://www.magneticclay.com/store/magnesium-oil-ancient-minerals-8.aspx
 
Magnesium citrate may cause you to retain fluid. It's good for people who are chronically constipated.

Here is the stuff I use, and I love it.

ancient-minerals-magnesium-oil-8.jpg


http://www.magneticclay.com/store/magnesium-oil-ancient-minerals-8.aspx


I don't think that magnesium oil absorbs through your skin in any appreciable amount. I was a prior user, but when I started to learn more about the anatomy and physiology of the skin and cells in general, I became suspicious. I went ahead and discussed this with both an MD and a friend who has her PhD in endocrinology, and both of them said that there is no mechanism for appreciable transport of MgCl molecules through the skin.
 
magnesium can restore emotional receptors of the brain that have been overexcited with natural adrenaline /opiates
 
I don't think that magnesium oil absorbs through your skin in any appreciable amount. I was a prior user, but when I started to learn more about the anatomy and physiology of the skin and cells in general, I became suspicious. I went ahead and discussed this with both an MD and a friend who has her PhD in endocrinology, and both of them said that there is no mechanism for appreciable transport of MgCl molecules through the skin.

If Epsom salts absorb through the skin in a bath, why wouldn't spray on magnesium oil absorb in the skin?

I can tell you from my own experience, when my lower back hurts, or my knees hurt I spray my magnesium oil on it and within an hour the pain goes away.

Here is some information:
http://www.ancient-minerals.com/transdermal-magnesium/how-topical/?gclid=CIOUufmM4q4CFUZN4AodiSNrXQ
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/magnesium.htm
 
If Epsom salts absorb through the skin in a bath, why wouldn't spray on magnesium oil absorb in the skin?

I can tell you from my own experience, when my lower back hurts, or my knees hurt I spray my magnesium oil on it and within an hour the pain goes away.

Here is some information:
http://www.ancient-minerals.com/transdermal-magnesium/how-topical/?gclid=CIOUufmM4q4CFUZN4AodiSNrXQ
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/magnesium.htm

I suppose that the pores have something to do with it. If you spray it on when your pores are open, it would have a much better absorption.
 
If Epsom salts absorb through the skin in a bath, why wouldn't spray on magnesium oil absorb in the skin?

I can tell you from my own experience, when my lower back hurts, or my knees hurt I spray my magnesium oil on it and within an hour the pain goes away.

Here is some information:
http://www.ancient-minerals.com/transdermal-magnesium/how-topical/?gclid=CIOUufmM4q4CFUZN4AodiSNrXQ
http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/magnesium.htm

When you soak in warm water with epsom salt, it will absorb, but not very much. If you take a warm bath with Magnesium Oil, the same amount will absorb.

If you made a solution of epsom salt and water in a spray bottle and sprayed it on your body, the same amount would absorb as magnesium oil.

Listen, I'm a pretty strong advocate of alternative medicine and especially nutrition, but there are definitely scams out there. I'm convinced this is one of them, unfortunately. I've done a ton of research on this before coming to this conclusion.

The skin is HIGHLY stratified epithelium, that is also keratinized, and has many proteins and lipid molecules present to create a barrier. There are only a few ways for substances to transfer into cells, such as simple diffusion, active transport, voltage and ligand gated ion channels, symporters and antiporters... The only way for magnesium oil to get through your skin, is through simple diffusion. Soaking in hot water will help it diffuse through a little better, but the amount in milligrams that actually gets through is very low. You're better off taking an oral form of angstrom magnesium, liquid ionic Mg, or an amino acid chelate that is time released such as this one: http://www.jigsawhealth.com/supplements/magnesium

One last note: even if the magnesium oil worked as advertised, the Ancient Minerals brand is a complete rip off. This is a way better deal: http://www.amazon.com/Barbara-Hende...CMAG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1331592730&sr=8-2
 
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99.9% chance you have chronic dehydration if you have chronic constpation.

This intrigues me because I have chronic constipation. I drink all.day.long and still have the problem.

Honestly, I always have a drink next to me and am always thirsty. It's sweet tea in the morning and only water after 2pm. I would estimate I drink about 60oz at least and I weigh 130.
 
This intrigues me because I have chronic constipation. I drink all.day.long and still have the problem.

Honestly, I always have a drink next to me and am always thirsty. It's sweet tea in the morning and only water after 2pm. I would estimate I drink about 60oz at least and I weigh 130.

Merely drinking is not enough; hydration also has to do with salt and fiber and any number of other things (including bowel/digestive function in general, which is what that poster was getting at). You may also want to have your blood sugar checked if you are excessively thirsty all the time.
 
This intrigues me because I have chronic constipation. I drink all.day.long and still have the problem.

Honestly, I always have a drink next to me and am always thirsty. It's sweet tea in the morning and only water after 2pm. I would estimate I drink about 60oz at least and I weigh 130.

FYI: Always being thirsty is a sign of Diabetes. BTW drinking sweet tea in the morning will spike your index and cause other foods to be stored as fats.
 
Thanks all, I do regularly have my blood sugars tested. And even in pregnancy did not have gestational diabetes.
 
When you soak in warm water with epsom salt, it will absorb, but not very much. If you take a warm bath with Magnesium Oil, the same amount will absorb.

If you made a solution of epsom salt and water in a spray bottle and sprayed it on your body, the same amount would absorb as magnesium oil.

Listen, I'm a pretty strong advocate of alternative medicine and especially nutrition, but there are definitely scams out there. I'm convinced this is one of them, unfortunately. I've done a ton of research on this before coming to this conclusion.

The skin is HIGHLY stratified epithelium, that is also keratinized, and has many proteins and lipid molecules present to create a barrier. There are only a few ways for substances to transfer into cells, such as simple diffusion, active transport, voltage and ligand gated ion channels, symporters and antiporters... The only way for magnesium oil to get through your skin, is through simple diffusion. Soaking in hot water will help it diffuse through a little better, but the amount in milligrams that actually gets through is very low. You're better off taking an oral form of angstrom magnesium, liquid ionic Mg, or an amino acid chelate that is time released such as this one: http://www.jigsawhealth.com/supplements/magnesium

One last note: even if the magnesium oil worked as advertised, the Ancient Minerals brand is a complete rip off. This is a way better deal: http://www.amazon.com/Barbara-Hende...CMAG/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1331592730&sr=8-2




Transdermal magnesium oil is ideal for pain management as well as sports and pediatric medicine. In fact it is one of the best ways of administering medicines quickly and effectively. Transdermal methods of delivery are widely used because they allow the absorption of medicine directly through the skin. Gels, emulsion creams, sprays and lip balm stick applicators are easy to use and are effective in getting medicine into the blood stream quickly. Traditional methods of administering medicine such as tablets or capsules get watered down and become much less effective due to stomach acids and digestive enzymes, before they eventually get into the bloodstream. Bypassing the stomach and liver means a much greater percentage of the active ingredient goes straight into the bloodstream where its needed. In many cases, transdermal methods are used to help avoid potential side effects such as stomach upset or drowsiness. The full potential for transdermal medicine has not been explored by modern medicine though it has been practiced for thousands of years in hot springs around the world. http://www.magnesiumforlife.com




http://www.ancient-minerals.com - Dr. Mark Sircus Ac., OMD discusses magnesium supplementation and the pros and cons of oral versus topical applications.

An advocate of natural medicine, Dr. Sircus has written numerous research intensive books on the topic, most notably his book titled Transdermal Magnesium Therapy. Other books he has written include: Bicarbonate & Magnesium Medical Baths, Natural Allopathic Medicine, Winning the War on Cancer, Magnesium: The Ultimate Heart Medicine, Magnesium Medicine, and Survival Medicine for the 21st Century. As the director of the IMVA, Dr. Sircus educates people worldwide, sharing his vast amount of knowledge on the topic of magnesium and other transdermal therapies.




Could a deficiency in a magnesium be to blame for some of your chronic health problems, lack of sleep or anxiety? In this week's UltraWellness blog, Mark Hyman, M.D. reveals why this "secret antidote to stress" works so well and tells you how to get more of it -- naturally.

http://www.ultrawellness.com/blog.
 
I suppose that the pores have something to do with it. If you spray it on when your pores are open, it would have a much better absorption.

Yes, I usually spray it on after a hot shower.
 
This is another good company I like: http://magnesoothe.com/index.asp

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Transdermal Magnesium Oil & Human Skin

Magnesium “oil” is a descriptive name given to a relatively new type of mineral product that can have a very quick impact on one's health. Sea water can be concentrated by removing a few macro minerals (sodium chloride, potassium chloride, calcium chloride, etc.) and most of the water, leaving a very thick solution, now high in magnesium chloride, that is so dense that it has an oil like consistency. Thus, we now have a dynamic mineral solution, rich in magnesium, ready for direct application to the skin in areas that are experiencing pain or discomfort. This is Magnesoothe.

MAGNESIUM ESSENTIAL MINERAL
Magnesium is a mineral that is essential to many vital bodily functions. The average diet in an industrialized country, dependent on mechanized farming, and processed food, is very deficient in this vital mineral. It is no wonder that virtually all major diseases usually involve a magnesium deficiency as a co-factor, if it is not the primary cause. Magnesium, therefore, should be an essential part of one's health regimen.

TRANSDERMAL APPLICATION
According to Mark Sircus and other experts, the fastest way to increase one's cellular levels is by transdermal application.[1] The skin is the largest, and one of the most versatile organs in (or “on”) the body. It is a multi-layered membrane of varying permeability, designed to absorb certain nutrients. [2]

The skin is being used more and more, as a means of delivering substances into the body. Magnesium chloride from natural sea sources is readily absorbed into the body through the skin. There are no known side effects in transdermal applications of magnesium “oil” outside of minor irritation when applied to open sores, or sensitive skin.

INTERNAL APPLICATION
There are many types of magnesium supplements on the market designed for internal consumption. Each has a different source. Each has a different rate of absorption. Each must be properly digested so that it is changed into an ionic form, making it bioactive and usable by the body. There is also the concern of taking too much, resulting in diarrhea. Magnesium Chloride, from sea sources, is already in ionic form, and when applied transdermally, goes through the skin and right into the blood stream ready to be used by the body, with no concern for the problems associated with digestion.

MINERALS IN HUMAN SKIN CELLS
Minerals from the Dead Sea can have a profound effect on diseases of the skin. Perhaps the reason that human skin is so receptive to the minerals in the Dead Sea, is because it contains all 21 minerals found in skin cells. This explains why so many spas line the Dead Sea shores dealing specifically with skin ailments. Those waters offer every mineral needed for healthy skin cells.

TRANSDERMAL MAGNESOOTHE
When magnesium “oil” is applied to skin, it is easily absorbed into the epidermis. From there, it goes into the body to supply its many needs for magnesium. It can thus address specific points of pain, while at the same time, proceeding to also supply the needs of other body functions. Magnesium “oil” is the best way to increase cellular magnesium quickly and safely. Magnesoothe is made from the best source of ionic sea minerals, the Dead Sea.

[1] “Tansdermal Magnesium Therapy” Mark Sircus
[2]“Treatise on controlled drug delivery” By Agis F. Kydonieus pg 345
 
This intrigues me because I have chronic constipation. I drink all.day.long and still have the problem.

Honestly, I always have a drink next to me and am always thirsty. It's sweet tea in the morning and only water after 2pm. I would estimate I drink about 60oz at least and I weigh 130
Sugar and carbs are dehydrating. There can only be 1 spoonful of sugar in your bloodstream at any given time. 5 grams of carbs turns into that spoonful of sugar in about 15 minutes.

You need about a half gallon or a little more of plain water per day. Sweet tea, cokes, alcohol,and drugs of all sorts make you need more. Dehydration causes headaches, sinus problems, heartburn, ulcers, acid reflux, arthritis and even cancer.
 
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This intrigues me because I have chronic constipation. I drink all.day.long and still have the problem.

Honestly, I always have a drink next to me and am always thirsty. It's sweet tea in the morning and only water after 2pm. I would estimate I drink about 60oz at least and I weigh 130.

you might try to add some flax to ur diet ... anyway mag is most important for sure for everyone ... I'm going to give the oil a try as I found Epsom salts worked well for my sore feet in past thx
 
As far as having too much magnesium, all of the medical references that I have seen say that you will have excessive bowl movements/diarrhea if your Mg is too high. The dietary limit for Mg is ~350mg per day. Of course, it is difficult to get into dangerous levels; however, some serious side effects include bradycardia (pulse rate is too slow [under 60bpm], below normal blood pressure, coma, and death.
 
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Dr. Mark Sircus has a vested interested in promoting magnesium oil, and he's spouting nothing but pseudoscience. There is absolutely no science backing up the claims that he, or other magnesium oil salepeople, make. You can post all the information you want without scientific basis and it'll make no difference. I used the magnesium oil for nearly two years until I realized I was hoodwinked. I wouldn't doubt that it's having an effect on you - it's called the placebo effect.

The vast majority of people need more magnesium, but they shouldn't waste their hard earned money on the snake oil known as magnesium oil.
 
Dr. Mark Sircus has a vested interested in promoting magnesium oil, and he's spouting nothing but pseudoscience. There is absolutely no science backing up the claims that he, or other magnesium oil salepeople, make. You can post all the information you want without scientific basis and it'll make no difference. I used the magnesium oil for nearly two years until I realized I was hoodwinked. I wouldn't doubt that it's having an effect on you - it's called the placebo effect.

The vast majority of people need more magnesium, but they shouldn't waste their hard earned money on the snake oil known as magnesium oil.

So what you are saying is, that when my ankle or knee swell up and I spray it with magnesium oil and within a hour the swelling and pain goes down, it's placebo effect? I am no scientist and I understand what you are saying, but I do not think it is placebo effect when swelling goes down, but I could be wrong.

If as you said the skin doesn't absorb anything, what about those patches people use on their skin, like nicotine, how does that work if the skin does not absorb? Or what about sodium fluoride in people's water, are you saying you cannot soak it through your skin taking a shower/bath?

Let me ask you this, what type of magnesium oil were you using?

The more I research the more I find that taking oral magnesium (magnesium citrate or magnesium malate), in pill form, is a waste of money. Trying to get it in our food is troubling too, since most of our farmlands are depleted of good minerals. I buy mostly organic, but that is no guarantee. However, foods with magnesium in it I try to keep in my diet.

Here is a list of foods that are high in magnesium:

100 percent Bran, 2 Tbs
44 mg
11 DV%

Avocado, Florida, 1/2 med
103 mg
26 DV%

Wheat germ, toasted, 1 oz
90 mg
22 DV

Almonds, dry roasted, 1 oz
86 mg
21 DV

Cereal, shredded wheat, 2 rectangular biscuits
80 mg
20 DV

Seeds, pumpkin, 1/2 oz
75 mg
19 DV

Cashews, dry roasted, 1 oz
73 mg
18 DV

Nuts, mixed, dry roasted, 1 oz
66 mg
17 DV

Spinach, cooked, 1/2 c
65 mg
16 DV

Bran flakes, 1/2 c
60 mg
15 DV

Cereal, oats, instant/fortified, cooked w/ water, 1 c
56 mg
14 DV

Potato, baked w/ skin, 1 med
55 mg
14 DV

Peanuts, dry roasted, 1 oz
50 mg
13 DV

Peanut butter, 2 Tbs.
50 mg
13 DV

Chocolate bar, 1.45 oz
45 mg
11 DV

Vegetarian baked beans, 1/2 c
40 mg
10 DV

Potato, baked w/out skin, 1 med
40 mg
10 DV

Avocado, California, 1/2 med
35 mg
9 DV

Lentils, cooked, 1/2 c
35 mg
9 DV

Banana, raw, 1 medium
34 mg
9 DV

Shrimp, mixed species, raw, 3 oz (12 large)
29 mg
7 DV

Tahini, 2 Tbs
28 mg
7 DV

Raisins, golden seedless, 1/2 c packed
28 mg
7 DV

Cocoa powder, unsweetened, 1 Tbs
27 mg
7 DV

Bread, whole wheat, 1 slice
24 mg
6 DV

Spinach, raw, 1 c
24 mg
6 DV

Kiwi fruit, raw, 1 med
23 mg
6 DV

Hummus, 2 Tbs
20 mg
5 DV

Broccoli, chopped, boiled, 1/2 c
19 mg
5 DV

*DV = Daily Value. DVs are reference numbers based on the Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA). They were developed to help consumers determine if a food contains very much of a specific nutrient. The DV for magnesium is 400 milligrams (mg). The percent DV (%DV) listed on the nutrition facts panel of food labels tells adults what percentage of the DV is provided by one serving. Even foods that provide lower percentages of the DV will contribute to a healthful diet.

I also take glutathione or rather N-acetyl cysteine (NAC) which help keep glutathione levels up which are also critical to have in your system--especially people over the age of 40.
 
Well, Thorne Research does make a good absorbable magnesium supplement which is recommended by many naturopathic physicians.
 
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