Magnesium Deficiency: The Source of Most Modern Chronic Illness?

[donnay]

A recent paper by Rosemary Waring from Birmingham has been very helpful. She did experiments with people looking at the absorption of Epsom Salts in the bath. A 15 minute bath at 50ºC with a 1% solution of Epsom Salts caused significant rises in plasma magnesium and sulphate levels together with an increase in magnesium excretion in the urine. To achieve a 1% solution, a standard UK bath of 15 gallons requires 600grams, (just over a 1lb) of Epson Salts. The water should feel slightly soapy. In this experiment there were no adverse effects, indeed 2 of the volunteers who were over 60 years of age commented without prompting that their rheumatic pains had disappeared.

Magnesium chloride could also be given through the skin. Again there is good scientific work showing that magnesium chloride is well absorbed through the skin. The recipe for this is a 33% solution of magnesium chloride. So if you take 333grams of magnesium chloride (I can supply) into a jug and make this up to a litre this will give you the correct solution. You may have to warm this up for it to be completely dissolved. Or you could add a bit more water - it really doesn’t matter. The daily dose is then 10mls (or more) rubbed onto skin. Use soft skin such as in the tummy or in the armpits or inside the thighs, don’t wash it off subsequently but every day add to magnesium on site – as the levels build up the absorption will be improved.

http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Magnesium_-_treating_a_deficiency

http://www.livestrong.com/article/544355-benefits-and-side-effects-of-magnesium-chloride-oil/
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0002870384905763
http://www.bioline.org.br/pdf?pr09023
http://opus.bath.ac.uk/19700/

 

[youngbuck]

Yes, donnay, soaking in a bath with Mg Oil will work. I said that in my first reply. It's just an extremely overpriced method of raising Mg levels, and not very effective. It's a rip-off, and a scam, and if you take your time to more thoroughly and critically research the topic, you'll see that all the information supposedly substantiating Mg Oil is circular - they all cite eachother.

Again, you posting all of these links does absolutely nothing to substantiate the claims of Mg Oil. The the links simply contain more of the same exact claims. And that's all they are - claims.

 

[youngbuck]

If as you said the skin doesn't absorb anything, what about those patches people use on their skin, like nicotine, how does that work if the skin does not absorb? Or what about sodium fluoride in people's water, are you saying you cannot soak it through your skin taking a shower/bath?

You ask an important question. How do nicotine patches, birth control patches, and other similar substances pass through the skin so well? THEY ARE FAT SOLUBLE. That is the only reason. Mg Oil is NOT fat soluble, and there are only a few different way, as I stated, for it to get into the cell. I would imagine the fluoride, along with chlorine, can absorb through the skin, but only in small amounts, just like Mg Oil.

Let me ask you this, what type of magnesium oil were you using?

I first started using the Ancient Minerals brand, just like you posted. After I used up the several bottles that I had ordered, I came across a much cheaper form (which I posted) on Amazon. That's why I said that even IF Mg Oil was the miracle oil that some claim it is, the Ancient Minerals brand is a complete and utter ripoff.

 

[sratiug]

A 250 mg magnesium oxide tablet dissolves in a spoonfull of water quite easily.

 

[libertyjam]

I looked at all the bottles of mag. supplements in the regular grocery store last night, and every one of them were composed of Mg Oxide, but everything I have read indicates that this form is (the worst) extremely poorly absorbed in your body, so saved my money. Really did not expect any different but is still disappointing.

 

[youngbuck]

A 250 mg magnesium oxide tablet dissolves in a spoonfull of water quite easily.

The oxide form of Magnesium is one of the more poorly absorbed forms, and most likely to cause a laxative effect. An amino acid chelate, such as citrate, glycinate, malate, or taurinate are much better.

 

[donnay]

The oxide form of Magnesium is one of the more poorly absorbed forms, and most likely to cause a laxative effect. An amino acid chelate, such as citrate, glycinate, malate, or taurinate are much better.

My husband takes Magnesium Taurate.

Product Label

*Magnesium Taurate is a scientifically designed amino acid-mineral complex which insures maximal bioavailability of the essential macromineral, magnesium. Magnesium Taurate is a fully reacted complex and not simply a blend of the two minerals.

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=CV-1206

 

[Kluge]

You ask an important question. How do nicotine patches, birth control patches, and other similar substances pass through the skin so well? THEY ARE FAT SOLUBLE. That is the only reason. Mg Oil is NOT fat soluble, and there are only a few different way, as I stated, for it to get into the cell. I would imagine the fluoride, along with chlorine, can absorb through the skin, but only in small amounts, just like Mg Oil.



I first started using the Ancient Minerals brand, just like you posted. After I used up the several bottles that I had ordered, I came across a much cheaper form (which I posted) on Amazon. That's why I said that even IF Mg Oil was the miracle oil that some claim it is, the Ancient Minerals brand is a complete and utter ripoff.

How is an oil not fat soluble when oil is a fat?

 

[youngbuck]

How is an oil not fat soluble when oil is a fat?

Magnesium Oil is not actually an oil. It's simply Magnesium Chloride and water. The solution has a slippery, oily feel too it, which soon disappears once you've rubbed it on your skin and the water evaporates, leaving a salty/powdery layer of the MgCl2.

 

[youngbuck]

My husband takes Magnesium Taurate.

It is a good form that I often hear recommended. Both magnesium and taurine offer their own unique benefits, especially to the heart and brain. It's a nice one-two combo.

I just ordered this: http://www.jigsawhealth.com/supplements/magnesium

I look forward to seeing how well it works, and if it causes any laxative effect.

 

[Kluge]

Magnesium Oil is not actually an oil. It's simply Magnesium Chloride and water. The solution has a slippery, oily feel too it, which soon disappears once you've rubbed it on your skin and the water evaporates, leaving a salty/powdery layer of the MgCl2.

That makes more sense. Thanks.

 

[mosquitobite]

Magnesium Oil is not actually an oil. It's simply Magnesium Chloride and water. The solution has a slippery, oily feel too it, which soon disappears once you've rubbed it on your skin and the water evaporates, leaving a salty/powdery layer of the MgCl2.

I have a question for you.

I did buy some of the magnesium sprays. It stings right out of the shower on clean shaven legs. The way I get around that is to rub in my coconut oil immediately after I spray. (I use unrefined - smells yummy!)

Does this help it get through the skin?

 

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[donnay]

is it ok to take magnesium and calcium at the same time? Or would absorption be better taken several hours later?

I do not see any harm in taking them together. I would caution, however, that you should research which is the best pharmaceutical grade supplements. That is very important in the way your supplements absorb into the system. Some supplements have way to many fillers and can cause adverse affects to people taking them.

http://blissfulwriter.hubpages.com/hub/Why-We-Need-Calcium

 

[jj-]

how to up magnesium easily: give up grains, get some carbs from bananas and orange juice. drink a lot of milk. that'll cover your needs easily. i get about a quart of milk and a quart of orange juice a day.

 

[MelissaWV]

how to up magnesium easily: give up grains, get some carbs from bananas and orange juice. drink a lot of milk. that'll cover your needs easily. i get about a quart of milk and a quart of orange juice a day.

Caveat emptor.

Even though that's obviously great advice for a lot of folks, if your blood sugar is out of whack drinking a quart of orange juice in a day will not feel particularly good

 

[jj-]

Caveat emptor.

Even though that's obviously great advice for a lot of folks, if your blood sugar is out of whack drinking a quart of orange juice in a day will not feel particularly good

yeah, I'm obviously talking about healthy people. talk to your doctor first dear posters, don't sue me!

 

[oyarde]

how to up magnesium easily: give up grains, get some carbs from bananas and orange juice. drink a lot of milk. that'll cover your needs easily. i get about a quart of milk and a quart of orange juice a day.

I usually go with lemon , apple , grape or grapefruit ...