Mad Max in NYC. Biker punks swarm Man and child in SUV

At around 44 seconds into the video posted in the OP, take a look at the SUV driver's side door. It appears like Mr. brake check dude, the agitator, is standing by the driver's side door and either strikes the glass on the door, or maybe even punching the driver (it's too hard for me to tell for certain) really hard, just a few seconds before the SUV driver floors it. Has anyone else noticed this?
 
Judging by the actions of the Capital police the "bikers" had every right to shoot the driver of the SUV for fleeing as he did after hitting one of them.


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NEW YORK (WABC) -- Eyewitness News has learned that among the bikers on the Henry Hudson last weekend, were five off-duty NYPD officers.
 
I saw this posted on Fark in a thread on this topic. I'm not sure if it's been posted here yet.


Saw this. Cannot vouch for it's veracity:

"First the initial "accident" is part of a game they play. They ride in a huge group and will operate together to slow down traffic. Next they pick out high end vehicles targeting people with families in them, the targets will usually be white or Asian. Then one of the riders will do a "brake check" and stop suddenly in front of the target vehicle causing a minor bump. In some cases they will just roll back into their target vehicle. They will then mob the vehicle demanding money and or begin attacking the person inside. It is their practice to also slash the tires to prevent the vehicle from escaping. Truckers are well aware of them and are advised not to stop. You can clearly see in the video how they are well practiced in this style of attack. The police in NY have backed off them after an officer ran one down using his vehicle a few months back. The video was all over the net so I advise you to check it out. These "bikers" ride dirt bikes and sport bikes very few of which are street legal and even fewer have plates. They run red lights, stop signs, and have no regard for the law. If you are ever in this situation do not stop, immediately call the police and do whatever you have to to keep them from boxing you in. NEVER leave the scene of an accident if you are not under direct threat!!! Only run if you have no other choice, and again immediately call the police. This is not rare by any means, the only reason this incident got any attention is because of the helmet cam video being posted on the net. If you see anyone in this situation, call the police. Make no mistake confusing these punks with true bikers. "


http://www.fark.com/comments/7955398/You-get-boxed-in-on-highway-by-hundreds-of-motorcycle-riders-WHAT-DO-YOU-DO



And after reading enhanced_deficit's article above calling the police could have been done out the window.
 
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Former Hells Angels leader slams New York beating after motorcycle chase


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/0...lams-new-york-beating-after-motorcycle-chase/

A former Hells Angels leader who watched the helmet-cam video of a high-speed chase in New York that resulted in a father taking a beating in front of his wife and 2-year-old child said nothing justifies the attack.

"These types of incidents unfairly give us a bad name," George Christie, who led the Ventura, Calif., chapter of the Hells Angels for 35 years, said. "They are not an example of what we stand for."

The six-minute video, which was taken last Sunday, shows dozens of bikers alongside a black Range Rover SUV on Manhattan’s West Side Highway.

Alexian Lien, the driver, steps on the gas and runs into Edwin Mieses Jr., who suffered a broken spine and other serious injuries, Gloria Allred, his defense attorney, said. Mieses may be paralyzed.

"These guys just saw one of their friends get run over by an SUV," Christie said. "I don’t know if you've ever seen someone on a motorcycle get hit by a car -- that takes off-- let me tell you: it affects you."

Christie made clear that there is no excuse for the beating, but said the riders appeared to be acting on emotion. He said you can compare the feeling of riding with a group with the sensation of being in a charging army. "There's a lot of power; it's very seductive."

The helmet-cam video cuts out when the riders catch up to Lien and one uses his helmet as a hammer to smash in his driver's side window. Christie said Lien was grossly outnumbered and the fact that the bikers, considering their frenzy, only left Lien with two black eyes and a cut on his face that required stitches indicates that they exercised some restraint.

"Maybe they noticed the mom and kid looking on," Christie said.

Lien's wife, Rosalyn Ng, has said that her family's sympathies go out to Mieses, but that they had to flee a dangerous situation. She said her husband was trying to protect her and their child.

Jerry Langton wrote several books on motorcycle clubs, including a profile on Walter Stadnick, the founder of the Hells Angels in Canada. Langton said the riders who appeared in the video are far from being a true motorcycle club. These clubs, like the Hells Angels or Outlaws, often wear uniforms, ride Harleys and adhere to a code of conduct that would oppose what was seen in the video, Langton said.

"It would be highly frowned on to be violent in front of a wife and kid," he said. "Let's just say that."

Langton recalled a story of an associate from the Montreal chapter of Hells Angels who accidentally killed an 11-year-old in a bombing. That associate was later killed.

A former rider with the Legion of Doom, a New York motorcycle club, told FoxNews.com that these bikers who terrorize motorists give responsible bikers a bad name. These thrown-together groups are often comprised of riders out for a thrill who take little precaution.

"I don't have any respect for people who don't know how to ride in a proper formation on the highway," said Angel, the former rider who only gave his first name for the report. "You also don't chase and beat up a man in front of his family. They're a bunch of cowards."

Angel, now 48, rode motorcycles since he was a teenager in Puerto Rico and continued in Brooklyn until he got married in 2004.

"If I was with my family and I was being chased, I would have just drove my SUV into as many of them as I could," he said.

This group of motorcyclists were headed to an annual rally in New York's Times Square sponsored by Hollywood Stunts, Kerrie Droban, a lawyer and author of three books on biker gangs, said.

Droban said when a traditional motorcycle gang takes to the street there's an order in place. Oftentimes a road captain and riders are traveling in a particular order. When a member is pulled over by police, "all of them pull over together."

"They're not taking over the road the way these guys did," she told Fox & Friends.

The Daily News reports that Reggie Chance, 38, turned himself in and is being questioned by police in connection to the beating. Robert Sims, 35, was charged with gang assault and other charges the report said.
 
Look you imbecille! I have never made an excuse for the punks in the OP, not one!

In fact I have condemned their behavior repeatedly in this thread.

Are you having comprehension problems or has a "biker" pissed in your wheaties at some point?

Just because you haven't understood what I've typed repeatedly in this thread I'll try again..

"These punks in the OP are NOT bikers."

Read that as often as it takes to sink in Paul, if you're still in doubt I'm sure there's a club in WV that'd be happy to show you the difference in person. Try the VFW in your home town....Any 70 y/o biker will proudly explain the difference if you'd rather be told than shown....


Biker: noun: a person who rides a motorcycle.

Uh, they sound like bikers to me...
 
I hope to see you in person some day, I'll be the small old gray bearded guy right in the middle of your shit asking you to "finish it"...

It's statements like this that make people roll their eyes at tough-guy bikers.
 
Biker: noun: a person who rides a motorcycle.

Uh, they sound like bikers to me...

That's why I took the trouble to spell it out, so folks like you wouldn't be mistaken. I even included pictures...

It's statements like this that make people roll their eyes at tough-guy bikers.

Yup, "small old gray bearded guy" sounds tough doesn't it...:rolleyes:


I'm not a "tough guy" but I do have principals and I'll stand up for them.
 
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NEW YORK (WABC) -- Eyewitness News has learned that among the bikers on the Henry Hudson last weekend, were five off-duty NYPD officers.

 


Sources say at least two detectives witnessed the attack on Alexian Lien and did not directly intervene. [...]

And detectives are also investigating reports that several others in the group may have been off-duty New York City correction officers.

An undercover detective has informed Internal Affairs that he was present at the time of the confrontation.

The undercover narcotics detective, himself a motorcycle rider, was off duty. Official sources say he did not get involved because he did not want to blow his cover.

Wow.
 
That's why I took the trouble to spell it out, so folks like you wouldn't be mistaken. I even included pictures...



Yup, "small old gray bearded guy" sounds tough doesn't it...:rolleyes:


I'm not a "tough guy" but I do have principals and I'll stand up for them.

You spelled out an incorrect definition. One you made up and apparently live by, but which you shouldn't expect the rest of the world to know or care about.

You've implied the threat of violence several times. That counts as acting tough in my mind.
 
All I can say is I called it. As soon as I read about this story I knew that that group had a bunch of pigs in it and that is why they were getting a pass. The only thing that surprises me is that the media is actually finding out and reporting about it.
 
You spelled out an incorrect definition. One you made up and apparently live by, but which you shouldn't expect the rest of the world to know or care about.

You've implied the threat of violence several times. That counts as acting tough in my mind.

I hope you drive politely, I will...
 
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All I can say is I called it. As soon as I read about this story I knew that that group had a bunch of pigs in it and that is why they were getting a pass. The only thing that surprises me is that the media is actually finding out and reporting about it.

You definitely did. We need to keep up with this story and see what happens with them--likely nothing.
 
You definitely did. We need to keep up with this story and see what happens with them--likely nothing.

I can smell pig stench a mile off and this one I could smell all the way from NY. An yes, nothing will come of it. Most likely and inquiry which will take months and by the time people have forgotten about the incident there will be a report that says there was nothing wrong with what the pigs in the bike pack did nor was there anything wrong with what the pigs on duty did. See, the pigs were totally blameless all along, nothing to see, move along.
 
You have to admire their dedication. An eight hour day of stomping people apparently isn't enough. With some of them it is all thug all the time.
 
I thought it was a general rule that LEOs are never off duty. I hope both families sue the "off-duty" and "undercover" pigs. That guy wouldn't be paralyzed if one of them had put a stop to it.

Told DH about it and he said they do it all the time around here, speeding down the highway, hogging the road, driving recklessly, trying to intimidate everyone. They're part of the gang, and are above the law.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-33816_1...three-nypd-cops-took-part-in-motorcycle-ride/

At that point, a series of 911 calls had already been made to police. The first was at 1:52 p.m., when Lien's wife told police that there was a large group of motorcycles driving recklessly.

In a second call at 1:53, she reported that their car was being hit by the bikers. She said she was in the car with her husband and 2-year-old daughter.

At 1:55, Lien himself called and gave police his current location. This is near where the door was pulled open.

At 2 p.m., the wife told 911 the windows were being smashed and her husband was being assaulted.

In this case, when minutes count, the police were seconds way.
 
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It's amazing that this story was all over "The-Newz" until it came out that the idiots in question were not actual "bikers" but were instead comprised of off-duty cops, prison guards and their ilk.

I expect some lip service, maybe a wrist slapping and this'll all go away with John Q. remembering only the headlines and retaining his own preconceived mental picture of "bikers" running amok..
 
Its like a sweater that someone just keeps knitting and knitting and knitting...

Biker formally charged in SUV incident
NEW YORK (WABC) -- The biker seen on-camera using his helmet to smash in the driver's side window of the vehicle was formally charged Saturday night.

Police say 37-year-old Reginald Chance of Brooklyn used his helmet to smash the driver's side window of the Range Rover last Sunday. He is being charged with assault and criminal mischief.

Earlier, Eyewitness News learned that among the bikers on the Henry Hudson last weekend, were five off-duty NYPD officers.

Sources say at least two detectives witnessed the attack on Alexian Lien and did not directly intervene. And investigators are still working to determine what role, if any, was played by the other three officers.

What is clear, sources say, is that the men did not begin to come forward until late Wednesday, four full-days after the incident.

And detectives are also investigating reports that several others in the group may have been off-duty New York City correction officers....
 
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