LP Founder David Nolan: "Sending money to Schiff was a colossal waste of resources"

[ronpaulhawaii]

...Phonebanking was fun.

priceless...

 

[wizardwatson]

Spreading the message of liberty isn't a waste even if you lose...maybe it's a waste at $118 vote but not at $5.50/vote.

Every candidate in every race pretty much believes they are "spreading the message of liberty". The real message of liberty is that we all need to do more to end the suffering and injustice in the world or else it will soon be upon us. The only message I see transmitted in these campaigns is that we need to send money to candidate x and vote for candidate x and we can turn this all around.

It's about money. In 90% of cases the one who spends more wins. It isn't about the message in a campaign, for the most part. The message is always watered down so that the candidate has as much appeal as possible in relation to the opponent.

Part of the gift of mistakes and failure and losing is figuring out how to change and do better. If we keep patting ourselves on the back with every failed endeavor in this movement with a, "well, we were really just spreading the message of liberty, that was most important" we're buying into our own bullshit.

A political campaign has to be about the least efficient way to educate the public.

 

[K466]

Pretty dumb comment by Nolan. How many elected libertarians do we have in the federal government? Compared to how many elected libertarian-Republicans we have?

 

[specsaregood]

Pretty dumb comment by Nolan. How many elected libertarians do we have in the federal government? Compared to how many elected libertarian-Republicans we have?

Let alone the senate. I mean maybe a house seat as a LP candidate, maybe.....but a senate seat? I guess it takes one to know one in regards to wasting resources.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

The founder of the frickin' Libertarian party, a party (including both the main party and all the candidates that have ran under its label) that has taken God knows how much money in its nearly forty year existence and put up a gigantic goose egg when it comes to the number of House and Senate seats won, Governorships and of course the White House. A party that peaked in presidential runs thirty years ago in 1980 with a whooping 1.1% of the vote.

Good grief.

 

[low preference guy]

The founder of the frickin' Libertarian party, a party (including both the main party and all the candidates that have ran under its label) that has taken God knows how much money in its nearly forty year existence and won put up a gigantic goose egg when it comes to numbers of House and Senate seats won, Governorships and of course the White House. A party that peaked in presidential runs thirty years ago in 1980 with a whooping 1.1% of the vote.

Good grief.

yep

 

[qh4dotcom]

What about $6.1/vote? Is $17.4 per vote wasteful? Is $70/vote?

It depends...if for $70 you get just a vote, probably yes...now if for $70 you manage to get a vote plus educate someone about the principles of liberty and they join the cause then of course not.

 

[iFollowPeterSchiff]

A political campaign has to be about the least efficient way to educate the public.

No, at over $10,000 per student per year, I would say our public education system is far more inefficient.

 

[james1906]

True, but sending it to LP candidates is even worse.

Like a presidential candidate that bites the hand that feeds him.

 

[klamath]

The founder of the frickin' Libertarian party, a party (including both the main party and all the candidates that have ran under its label) that has taken God knows how much money in its nearly forty year existence and put up a gigantic goose egg when it comes to the number of House and Senate seats won, Governorships and of course the White House. A party that peaked in presidential runs thirty years ago in 1980 with a whooping 1.1% of the vote.

Good grief.

I have to agree with you there.

 

[MozoVote]

Has the LP ever gotten even 25,000 votes in Connecticut? Schiff topped that in a frickin' PRIMARY.

Sheeeeeshhh.

 

[wizardwatson]

No, at over $10,000 per student per year, I would say our public education system is far more inefficient.

Well, I'd give you a touche', but for most Americans public school is simply daycare services since the tax burden/cost of living forces both parents to work in many cases.

 

[Kotin]

Schiff has put himself in a much better position to run another year like 2012 etc..


I don't feel my donations were a waste.

 

[G-Wohl]

Does that apply to anyone who sent Ron Paul money in 1988 when he ran as a Libertarian?

Yes, it absolutely does. Anybody who supports, or runs in, the libertarian party has severe psychological issues and should have their head checked.

How the Libertarians can speak such hypocrisy is beyond all reasoning and logic. They are such a perversion of liberty that it makes me truly wonder what side they are on. Did he ACTUALLY just use Schiff's loss in an attempt to legitimize his own pathetic winless campaign for the Senate in Connecticut?

 

[t0rnado]

Pottle, kettle, black, etc.

 

[Umbro2914]

She spent not twice, but about eight times what Peter spent.

Didn't she spend $22 million and Peter about $3 million? I think Nolan's math is wrong.

The math is $$ spent per vote. Linda gained more votes, so it dosent seem like she spent that much more, thats where your confusion lies.

 

[KCIndy]

But clearly, sending money to Schiff's campaign was a colossal waste of resources.

Geez! Kicking the other guy and tearing him down is NOT a good way for one to make oneself look better or more important. Someone needs to explain this to Mr. Nolan.

 

[tpreitzel]

LOL at nutty Nolan ... Haven't we been through this erroneously foolish argument enough already? Apparently not ...

 

[Daamien]

Being hypocritical is fun.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Oh man Nolan is a idiot. That diatribe was hilarious. He basically insulted himself. If you don't like the GOP and you want to run for office, do not run as LP, but as an Independent. The laws in this country make third parties all, but impossible. If you do decide to run as LP goddamn run as a libertarian please. WAR, Barr, and the rest are disgusting.