Live: Obama announces Iran has secret nuclear facility

[Number19]

Treaties are simply agreements between nations and have never, in history, been binding. Treaties represent nothing more than politics.

Obama, and the NWO, are moving aggressively to change this. On Friday, Obama said, "we are committed to demonstrating that international law is not an empty promise..."

Iran supplies a major part of Europe's oil. Any concerted attack on Iran could have serious repercussions.

 

[SimpleName]

If we are going to keep Iran from getting nukes, how about we force Israel to disarm its nukes too? Sounds fair to me. Why does Israel need nukes in the first place? Maybe to threaten the surrounding countries? Hmm...

 

[Number19]

...Why does Israel need nukes in the first place? Maybe to threaten the surrounding countries? Hmm...

Has modern Israel, in its short history, ever initiated unprovoked aggression against its neighbors. Israel has nukes for one reason only, as a deterrent to being overrun by its enemies. This is justifiable threat.

 

[squarepusher]

Has modern Israel, in its short history, ever initiated unprovoked aggression against its neighbors.

thats very arguable, don't they routinely fight with their neighbors?

 

[Andrew-Austin]

Israel has nukes for one reason only, as a deterrent to being overrun by its enemies. This is justifiable threat.

The same thing could apply to Iran, worried that a blood thirsty Israel and US will jump them.

Has modern Israel, in its short history, ever initiated unprovoked aggression against its neighbors.

Probably.

 

[Number19]

initiated......unprovoked.....aggression

It can be argued that the creation of the state of Israel was an act of aggression, but this was not committed by Jews but rather by the United Nations, with the United States and Great Britain at the front.

The State of Israel has been acting in self defense since day one.

There has been much in the news papers the past few days - all of it about concessions that the Israelis must make before the peace talks can resume. There are never any demands or concessions made of the Palestinians.

There will be no resolution so long as the Palestinians promote the genocidal extermination of the Jewish nation.

Faced by this threat every day of its existence, some days more violent than others, Israelis have conducted themselves quite admirably.

 

[Give me liberty]

i am having that weird feeling of as if history is repeating itself, the way obama is attacking iran now reminds me how gw bush claimed and then started a war with iraq why dont the sheeps see its the same way?

 

[DrRich]

http://m.www.yahoo.com/_ylt=AuGbegP.../player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=4226934&src=news

hmmm...

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=107228&sectionid=351020104

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

The same people who beat the war drums for Iraq are beating it for Iran and this is propaganda. tones

 

[devil21]

The IAEA continues to state there is no evidence of an Iranian nuclear weapons program. Apparently, this "secret facility" isn't secret at all. It's been known about for years by US intelligence. It's just select information dissemination with whatever spin will forward the agenda.

It looks a whole lot like the same type of junk rolled out before the Iraq invasion. I can't believe people are going to fall for this crap again! Where's Code Pink these days? Mighty quiet it seems now with a Dem at the helm.

 

[BlackTerrel]

The U.S. cannot fight a war against Iran. The retribution would be swift and horrifying. The politicos know this. If you think Iran will go down without a whisper like Iraq, you're trippin'.

If we wanted to defeat Iran in an actual war and didn't give a fuck about collateral damage or world opinion we would crush them in a week. Where we struggle is when we want our boys to police them.

I'm against these wars but I'm a strong proponent of you either go all out to win or you don't do it. This middle ground bullshit we're doing is what is costing us trillions of dollars and thousands of our own lives.

 

[BlackTerrel]

i am having that weird feeling of as if history is repeating itself, the way obama is attacking iran now reminds me how gw bush claimed and then started a war with iraq why dont the sheeps see its the same way?

Not even close to the same thing. It was very clear, even just shortly after 9/11 that we would eventually go to war with Iraq. I would be shocked if we went to war with Iran right now.

 

[vodalian]

initiated......unprovoked.....aggression

It can be argued that the creation of the state of Israel was an act of aggression, but this was not committed by Jews but rather by the United Nations, with the United States and Great Britain at the front.

The State of Israel has been acting in self defense since day one.

Perpetually expanding their borders with force and destroying Palestinian homes so they can build their settlements is an act of defense? Interesting mindset you have there.

 

[RM918]

Man, I remember the '08 elections. I and a lot of others figured, 'Well, either McCain or Obama would be horrible, but at least Obama wouldn't invade Iran'.

Looks like I underestimated him!

 

[DrRich]

Not even close to the same thing. It was very clear, even just shortly after 9/11 that we would eventually go to war with Iraq. I would be shocked if we went to war with Iran right now.

its exactly the same thing.

And how was it so "clear" that we would go to war with Iraq after 911? Iraq had nothing to do with 911 terror attack.

 

[amonasro]

If we wanted to defeat Iran in an actual war and didn't give a fuck about collateral damage or world opinion we would crush them in a week. Where we struggle is when we want our boys to police them.

I'm against these wars but I'm a strong proponent of you either go all out to win or you don't do it. This middle ground bullshit we're doing is what is costing us trillions of dollars and thousands of our own lives.

That's the point. Endless war is the goal! If we demolished them in a week, the defense contractors wouldn't make any money.

This is exactly what happened with Iraq--MSM vilification, sanctions, then invasion. Those who railed against Bush's war and don't call out Obama on this are supreme hypocrites.

 

[Live_Free_Or_Die]

nt

 

[Dr.3D]

The IAEA continues to state there is no evidence of an Iranian nuclear weapons program. Apparently, this "secret facility" isn't secret at all. It's been known about for years by US intelligence. It's just select information dissemination with whatever spin will forward the agenda.

It looks a whole lot like the same type of junk rolled out before the Iraq invasion. I can't believe people are going to fall for this crap again! Where's Code Pink these days? Mighty quiet it seems now with a Dem at the helm.

As I understand it, that site was registered and permission was obtained to built it. What is happening now is a lie. There never was a "secret facility".

 

[devil21]

As I understand it, that site was registered and permission was obtained to built it. What is happening now is a lie. There never was a "secret facility".

The saddest part is that it doesn't take much research to find these things out and realize that we're being lied to once again. People just don't bother to verify anything they're being told.

Yeah, it's a secret facility. It's secret because J6P never bothered to find out that it existed. I guess in that way it really is a secret. A secret is something you don't know about.

 

[BlackTerrel]

That's the point. Endless war is the goal! If we demolished them in a week, the defense contractors wouldn't make any money.

This is exactly what happened with Iraq--MSM vilification, sanctions, then invasion. Those who railed against Bush's war and don't call out Obama on this are supreme hypocrites.

Well Obama hasn't invaved Iran so they aren't hypocrites now. If he does then you'll be right - but I don't think he will.