Live now: Baltimore looting, burning, rioting

[tangent4ronpaul]

West Baltimore has been a powderkeg for years. This could go on for days.

No kidding! Anyone remember MOVE in Philly? West Baltimore is solid row houses...

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4651126

At 5:30 that evening, a Philadelphia police helicopter dropped a bomb onto the roof of the house in an effort to drive MOVE members out.

Accounts differ on why the fire wasn't snuffed out, despite the dozen fire trucks surrounding the block. Ramona Africa, the sole surviving adult in the house, says police fired on MOVE members as they tried to escape the burning house. Police say the MOVE members ran in and out of the house firing at them. Police ordered their officers and fire fighters to stay back. What is clear is that four hours later, 61 houses on the block were gone, and everyone inside the MOVE house, except for Ramona Africa and a 13-year-old boy, was dead.

 

[AuH20]

What specific part of the west side are you talking about, exactly? I used to live on the west side, and my neighborhood was very peacefully integrated. By all means, name some west side neighborhoods that can be described as a "powderkeg".

Sandtown-Winchester.

 

[Root]

"Handguns in the crowds"

"Shots fired in the Northwest"

 

[presence]

baltimore cop throwing a rock at protesters

 

[mad cow]

Cop just rattled off 4 separate areas where looting is going on.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[invisible]

Sandtown-Winchester.

That has always been the worst of the west side neighborhoods. But how exactly is it a "powderkeg"? I don't ever remember anything happening there, that didn't also happen elsewhere in the city as well. There was no more racial tension there, than elsewhere. I've spent time in just about every part of the west side, including Sandtown-Winchester, and never had any problems. I lived within walking distance to there, and one friend of mine lived even closer, and never had any problems.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Burned down a brand new senior center that was built by a church. That will show those Police!

 

[AuH20]

That has always been the worst of the west side neighborhoods. But how exactly is it a "powderkeg"? I don't ever remember anything happening there, that didn't also happen elsewhere in the city as well. There was no more racial tension there, than elsewhere. I've spent time in just about every part of the west side, including Sandtown-Winchester, and never had any problems. I lived within walking distance to there, and one friend of mine lived even closer, and never had any problems.

It's been blighted since the 1960s. And with the Bloods and Crips dominating that area, it's not exactly a shock when this termite hill is disturbed.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Just something to think about. This rioting and looting was organized with social media apps on smart phones?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...to-Keep-Power-to-Shut-Down-Cellphone-Networks
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...-stingray-new-disclosures-20150420-story.html

Police outlined for the first time this month their usage of the stingray, pegging it at more than 4,300 times — a figure experts called a "huge number" compared to a trickle of disclosures in other cities.

So anyone that used social media as part of this is prety screwed, but at the same time the cops let it happen and apparently just tracked them.

on a more positive note, it's wet and I think more rain is coming.

15 officers injured
27+ arrested

 

[staerker]

I don't know much about what's going on in Baltimore. But I do know that it has nothing to do with sneakers or alcohol.

The mind thinks more clearly when untainted by the State-run media.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Good work LBJ. Helluva job...

+ rep.

 

[invisible]

It's been blighted since the 1960s. And with the Bloods and Crips dominating that area, it's not exactly a shock when this termite hill is disturbed.

It's been blighted a lot longer than that, actually. Probably the most run down and least maintained neighborhood in the entire city. That doesn't make it a powderkeg, though. I would argue that if anyplace in Baltimore is a powderkeg, it would be in more integrated neighborhoods where integration hasn't been so peaceful, like perhaps Remmington or the area just north of the NW corner of Patterson Park. Lots more racial tension in those two areas than about anywhere on the west side.

 

[invisible]

Just something to think about. This rioting and looting was organized with social media apps on smart phones?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...to-Keep-Power-to-Shut-Down-Cellphone-Networks
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...-stingray-new-disclosures-20150420-story.html

Police outlined for the first time this month their usage of the stingray, pegging it at more than 4,300 times — a figure experts called a "huge number" compared to a trickle of disclosures in other cities.

So anyone that used social media as part of this is prety screwed, but at the same time the cops let it happen and apparently just tracked them.

on a more positive note, it's wet and I think more rain is coming.

15 officers injured
27+ arrested

Seen any accurate total of how many cop cars have been destroyed, or reports of significant attacks against cop shops, city hall, etc?

 

[AuH20]

It's been blighted a lot longer than that, actually. Probably the most run down and least maintained neighborhood in the entire city. That doesn't make it a powderkeg, though. I would argue that if anyplace in Baltimore is a powderkeg, it would be in more integrated neighborhoods where integration hasn't been so peaceful, like perhaps Remmington or the area just north of the NW corner of Patterson Park. Lots more racial tension in those two areas than about anywhere on the west side.

My point being that this concentration in Sandtown is relatively self-contained until events like this.

 

[AuH20]

I don't know much about what's going on in Baltimore. But I do know that it has nothing to do with sneakers or alcohol.

The mind thinks more clearly when untainted by the State-run media.

It started off as a protest and transformed into that.

 

[TheCount]

That has always been the worst of the west side neighborhoods. But how exactly is it a "powderkeg"?

H20 is a self-admitted racist and segregationist. Anyplace that is primarily nonwhite is a dangerous hub of badness to him.

 

[mad cow]

People holding hostages in a liquor store fled in a car,chopper in pursuit,asking for assistance,Another liquor store being looted elsewhere.

 

[AuH20]

H20 is a self-admitted racist and segregationist. Anyplace that is primarily nonwhite is a dangerous hub of badness to him.

Racist? That's news to me. And yes, I don't believe in forced integration by state handlers. I also believe in black communities cutting their umbilical cord from the usual suspects. Get out of the cities. There is only poison and murder there for black folks.

 

[invisible]

My point being that this concentration in Sandtown is relatively self-contained until events like this.

Not really. There isn't anything going on there that doesn't occur elsewhere over most of the west side, and large portions of the east side too. Then you also have to consider places like Cherry Hill, the Tall Trees area in Essex, and the Moravia Rd area. It isn't exactly self contained by any means, it's widespread.