List: Reasons why Obama is the wost president in American history

[Anti Federalist]

PS: Obama is like a well-tanned Mussolini. Just look at how his body language is so similar.

He's definitely got that Mussolini-esque inclination-of-the-head thing going on. Creepy.

I'll be damned, I hadn't ever really noticed but, son of a bitch...

 

[Zippyjuan]

Bear in mind that a president can't do a whole lot without aid from the Senate and House of Representatives. They have to write and pass the legislation before it can be signed by him. Presidents may get the major portion of credit and blame on things but there is plenty of that to go around.

 

[Voluntary Man]

Bear in mind that a president can't do a whole lot without aid from the Senate and House of Representatives. They have to write and pass the legislation before it can be signed by him. Presidents may get the major portion of credit and blame on things but there is plenty of that to go around.

when you sign a bad bill into law, you are taking and deserve the blame. that's what the veto is for.

 

[Zippyjuan]

But his power is not absolute. If Congress did not want those things, they could stop the bill as well. Thus shared responsibility.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Bear in mind that a president can't do a whole lot without aid from the Senate and House of Representatives.

That may have been true once upon a time. Not anymore.

 

[Wesker1982]

 

[Occam's Banana]

But his power is not absolute. If Congress did not want those things, they could stop the bill as well. Thus shared responsibility.

This is true, so far as it goes. But the sins of the legislature are passive ones of abdication, while the sins of the executive are aggressive ones of usurpation.

The former permit the latter, so the responsibility is indeed shared - but is more "concentrated" in the single person of the executive.

(For example: many Congressmen are needed to vote down a bill, but only one President is needed to veto a bill.)

Ultimately, though, it is the American people who are to blame - for allowing the POTUS to be turned into something akin to a god-king.

 

[106459]

Drafting your own citizens to fight against people who would otherwise be your own citizens, taking a nice long piss on the Constitution, managing to look like you freed the slaves (to history) while actually being a massive racist, signing people fresh off the boat into a sort of indentured servitude with the notion that your wages and some sort of decent lifestyle would be provided for the family of the newly minted soldier (and all the while "Irish need not apply" kept them poor and likely they died sooner than the soldier did)...?

Honestly, I think we see the shit we're in as worse than the shit other people were in, or are in, all the time. Those acts are there, but many of them have not been exploited yet. If we're to be angry, we should look back and be angry at the Fed, Social Security, Executive Orders, "conflicts" (which we now have instead of wars), and so on. It is cumulative, as you said, and it would be silly to blame the present for the obvious blunders of the past.

People toss "worst" around like there's any real way to tell.

Well, interesting point to argue. But I believe where Abe was just putting the lid of the coffin on, Obama is finishing the last of the nails. For the implications to be this evident, and for Obama to continue this path of destruction, is despicable. Unfortunately, I don't have a ton of bullet style evidence Abe vs. BO, but Obama's piss on the constitution is certainly nothing to gawk at. That section of immigrants off the boat reminded me a lot of BO's healthcare. All the promises he's made, and they're blatantly false. Yes, the big spending and centralization BO has done will indenture far more than just immigrants when the true taxation hits.
I'm not quite sure we really see "the shit we're in." To quote Henry Ford, "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." I've mentioned many points about debt, and despite the fact we'll hit Greece levels in a few years, no one has really come to terms with it. I remember exactly what was going on as Obama appointed a medical doctor to head the World Bank. Everywhere you looked: "THREE PEOPLE HAVE WON MEGAMILLIONS!!! OMFG!!!" I could go on forever, but unfortunately, finance is my strong-suit.
Now, I'm unsure of that last part. You said it was all cumulative, and it would be silly to blame the president for blunders of the past. It sounds to me like Obama shouldn't be blamed for all his abuses, because someone else set precedent. That's nonsense. I refuse to excuse his, or anyone else's independent behavior. I said it before, if you left the door to your house open and I walked right on in and helped myself to the fridge, it's your fault? I don't think so. Yes, the door was open, but in what world did I have to make myself walk there?

When Obama's spokesman explained that Obama will work with Congress on the stuff that they want to pass and Obama will legislate by executive order on issues that Congress isn't cooperating on, this is when I realized that Obama is the worst president ever. His own spokesman is telling us that he is acting openly as a fascist.

Yes. This is one of the points I was getting at (corporatism.) Mussolini, who coined the term fascism, later said if he had a second chance he would've named it corporatism; big government getting in bed with big business.

Bear in mind that a president can't do a whole lot without aid from the Senate and House of Representatives. They have to write and pass the legislation before it can be signed by him. Presidents may get the major portion of credit and blame on things but there is plenty of that to go around.

That's not true. ObamaCare likely would've NEVER happened if BO didn't push so god damn hard. Many Democrats would've opposed it, until Obama strong-armed it. It's my understanding that even on the vote they weren't entirely certain it would muster all the necessary votes; that's not exactly normal. As stated earlier, Obama will legislate by executive order when Congress disobeys him. Christ, google Obama executive orders. Pages of nonsense. He's signed 126 in just over 1450 days in office. "Hmm, it's been about 10 days. EXECUTIVE ORDER TIME!" Is the general jist of what goes on in that demented mind. And, in comparison, GWB passed 43. Obama is about 3x as much.

So, again, I don't consider Reagan deficits to be on the level of Obama, Reagan was just about 1/5 of what Obama has done, 1st term to 1st term (733/5100 (billions) 14.3%, 10.3% GDP compared to 48% GDP, about a fifth.) Yes, many of you have spoke of how much you hate Reagan, but it looks like Obama is worse by a factor of 5.

Now, in closing, I would like to state I'm not a fan of Reagan, or any other modern president for that matter. However, I do want to compare the metrics, and from what I've posted, Obama is a far cry from GWB or Reagan.
I will concede I haven't necessarily put forth strong argument for Abe vs. BO, other than they seem to be on the same scale and BO has the advantage of far more foresight than Abe did; and I don't have as many facts on Abe.

 

[osan]

He's definitely got that Mussolini-esque inclination-of-the-head thing going on. Creepy.

That is what I meant more than anything else. There is that famous footage of Benito doing that thing with his head like a class-A buffoon. Barack does the same thing right down to the mouth.

A pair of jerkoffs - one for each century.

 

[osan]

I'll be damned, I hadn't ever really noticed but, son of a bitch...

See what I mean? It is so crazy that sane and rational people cannot help but wonder whether BHOBHO was chosen purposely as some sort of bitterly contempt-laden joke to be rubbed ostentatiously and vigorously into the faces of the great mob of idiots commonly labeled "the American public".

Seriously d00dz - I am so utterly disgusted with the unplumbed depths of stupidity demonstrated by the vast and overwhelming majority of Americans (not that the rest of the world is really any better, but I don't give a shit about them) that I really cannot blame the elite for treating them as they do. If they'd have me, I would probably join them, to be honest because this profoundness of willful imbecility is simply too much to forgive.

 

[Voluntary Man]

See what I mean? It is so crazy that sane and rational people cannot help but wonder whether BHOBHO was chosen purposely as some sort of bitterly contempt-laden joke to be rubbed ostentatiously and vigorously into the faces of the great mob.

I'll be damned, I hadn't ever really noticed but, son of a bitch...

il duce and il douche

 

[osan]

il duce and il douche

Eeediot! Had I had tea in my mouth, I'd be writing you a bill for a new monitor.

Imbecile.

 

[anaconda]

Bear in mind that a president can't do a whole lot without aid from the Senate and House of Representatives. They have to write and pass the legislation before it can be signed by him. Presidents may get the major portion of credit and blame on things but there is plenty of that to go around.

The problems we're in are because of decades of draconian globalist legislation. The Presidential power of the veto could be enormous. Also the power as Commander In Chief. Also the constitutional authority to "direct the cabinet" could be huge. The President could do a lot without any help from congress. They just never do because their all bought-and-paid-for tools.