Light bulb ban to take effect

[eduardo89]

My bleeding heart Democrat friends have all gone LED. This after they all went CFL several years ago, but now acknowledge that was a mistake. The road to hell, paved with the good intentions of ignorant fools.

I'm anything but a bleeding heart liberal, I'm definitely one of the most 'conservative' members on this forum and I've gone 100% LED.

 

[mad cow]

60-watt equivalent, not 100-watt.

Here you can get 20 60-watt equivalents for $58 with free shipping:
http://www.dhgate.com/product/20pcs...ee-high-power/123947335.html#s1-4-1|892799796

First of all,they don't have a base like 99.999% of the light sockets in the USA.I suppose I could buy a new bedside lamp and leave that in my will too but there go all my 'savings'.

Next,they are spotlights,again with all the light on the ceiling.

Thirdly,not exactly rave reviews:

By: t1mot1 10 26, 2012
this company say his light are 9w and send you 3w don't buy it be careful
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By: jon.hornstein 10 19, 2012
This like all the other CREE 9W LED MR16 downlights that I've bought from anyone are advertised as 9W because they contain 3x3W LED's from CREE but are only driven with 4.5W or power. So don't be upset that they're dimmer than other 6W bulbs. This is the same with all similarly advertised CREE 9W LED lights. But hey they're at a reasonable price so I didn't care, but I was surprised at the light output until I measured the power consumption.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I'm anything but a bleeding heart liberal, I'm definitely one of the most 'conservative' members on this forum and I've gone 100% LED.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-LED. But the lemmings don't make informed decisions, they just follow the ass of the lemming in front of them.

 

[eduardo89]

First of all,they don't have a base like 99.999% of the light sockets in the USA.I suppose I could buy a new bedside lamp and leave that in my will too but there go all my 'savings'.

MR16 sockets are common, perhaps not in old houses, but in new builds they are. Just look at how products Home Depot offers:
http://www.homedepot.com/s/mr16?NCNI-5

Anyway, LEDs exist for all different fixtures.

Next,they are spotlights,again with all the light on the ceiling.

Light on the ceiling? I think you mean with the bulbs on the ceiling shining light down (like a spotlight).

Thirdly,not exactly rave reviews:

I was just giving an example of how cheap LEDs can actually be. I spent 30 seconds looking that up. If you go on the rest of the site there are hundreds in the $5-10 range.

If you want to go with a brand name here's an example from Philips (I wouldn't buy brand name, I'd rather buy straight from the factory in China...they're all made in China) for just under $10.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Philips-...ght-Bulb-429381/204460611?N=bm79Z12kx?NCNI-5#

 

[eduardo89]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-LED. But the lemmings don't make informed decisions, they just follow the ass of the lemming in front of them.

Oh I agree. You should research before you make such a huge investment. CFL's don't offer the same ROI that LED's do and in many cases are inferior to incandescent bulbs (especially if it's a light you're going to be switching on and off very frequently, the CFL won't even last as long as an incandescent in that case).

I would say the people stocking up on incandescents are the in the same boat, they're just as misinformed and it's an emotional reaction.

 

[oyarde]

Oh I agree. You should research before you make such a huge investment. CFL's don't offer the same ROI that LED's do and in many cases are inferior to incandescent bulbs (especially if it's a light you're going to be switching on and off very frequently, the CFL won't even last as long as an incandescent in that case).

I would say the people stocking up on incandescents are the in the same boat, they're just as misinformed and it's an emotional reaction.

I got lots of lamp oil and firewood whippersnapper, whale oil is a renewable resource , very green , lol

 

[kahless]

Oh I agree. You should research before you make such a huge investment. CFL's don't offer the same ROI that LED's do and in many cases are inferior to incandescent bulbs (especially if it's a light you're going to be switching on and off very frequently, the CFL won't even last as long as an incandescent in that case).

I would say the people stocking up on incandescents are the in the same boat, they're just as misinformed and it's an emotional reaction.

I do not want to pay $5-$10 for a bulb I hardly ever turn on. I can visually see the difference with LED lighting and I do not like it. My opinion is no different from others stocking up, hardly misinformed or emotional.

It is none of governments damn business what lighting I use or can purchase. This is infuriating.

 

[Anti Federalist]

LEDs are current-sensitive, not voltage sensitive. Also, designers consider transient peak currents when implementing LED driver circuits.

Uh huh, and they burn out way before the advertised life span.

Not to mention the driver circuits get almost as hot as an incandescent.

 

[MRK]

That's absurd, no one will pay more for incandescent if the price goes above that of LED lights, which use only 80% the energy, last 100,000 hours, and give off basically the same light effect as incandescent.

I think people stocking up on incandescent bulbs are just stubborn and trying to make a statement. There is no reason to stay on incandescent bulbs, unless you like to waste money on power.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescent_lamps_and_health

 

[kahless]

LED Lights May Damage Eyes, Researcher Says
http://www.livescience.com/31949-led-lights-eye-damage.html

Energy-saving LED technology has been in the limelight as the best way to reduce the electricity demands of residential and commercial lighting.

But how safe are LED lights? A vision researcher from Complutense University in Madrid reports that exposure to LED lights can cause irreparable damage to the retinas of the human eye, UPI reports.

The light from LEDs, or light-emitting diodes, comes primarily from the short-wave, high-energy blue and violet end of the visible light spectrum, said Dr. Celia Sánchez-Ramos.
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Her comments are based in part on a 2012 study she co-authored, published in the journal Photochemistry and Photobiology. That study found that LED radiation caused significant damage to human retinal pigment epithelial cells in vitro.

This isn't the first time energy-saving lights have come under scrutiny for safety reasons. Compact fluorescent light bulbs, or CFLs, have been criticized for the mercury they contain and for the high levels of ultraviolet (UV) radiation they can emit.


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[MRK]

I'm anything but a bleeding heart liberal, I'm definitely one of the most 'conservative' members on this forum and I've gone 100% LED.

So,

LEDs = logical
Electric vehicles = homosexual

Got it.

 

[eduardo89]

So,

LEDs = logical
Electric vehicles = homosexual
Got it.

Good, you get it.

 

[FindLiberty]

Gett'n salmonella from my easy-bake... 0:59

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO5lGpFGcJY (Warning: Severe chorus/harmony pitch correction fail)

 

[oyarde]

Uh huh, and they burn out way before the advertised life span.

Not to mention the driver circuits get almost as hot as an incandescent.

I tried some in the bathroom and basement, burned out quick.......

 

[eduardo89]

Uh huh, and they burn out way before the advertised life span.

Not to mention the driver circuits get almost as hot as an incandescent.

The heat problems were an issue on 1st and 2nd generation bulbs, not so much today, especially in 4th generation bulbs.

 

[JK/SEA]

well thank the Lord this ban is FINALLY in place.

We are now safe from imminent global destruction of the planet.

that is all ......................................................suckers.

 

[Madison320]

That CNN article reads like an advertisement or state propaganda, including some of the comments.

I like the "unbiased" caption:

"New rules mean that traditional 40 and 60-watt incandescent bulbs won't be made after the start of the year, despite efforts by tea party types to thwart the law."

 

[JK/SEA]

I like the "unbiased" caption:

"New rules mean that traditional 40 and 60-watt incandescent bulbs won't be made after the start of the year, despite efforts by tea party types to thwart the law."

we have arrived.....lol...

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Yeah, cuz I can afford $60 bucks everytime a 60 cent lightbulb burns out in my house. Sure it will add up and cut down on total power costs, but those savings are offset by the assinine prices of the newer lightbulbs. If they were more affordable, I wouldnt have such an issue with it. Just another indication of extreme corporate greed.

Corporate greed? We have a BAN in place, and you're going to blame this on the corporations?

 

[JK/SEA]

Corporate greed? We have a BAN in place, and you're going to blame this on the corporations?

why not?