Light bulb ban to take effect

[eduardo89]

For me it is health issues.


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LED's can be dimmed, the higher end models have options which can change the light to 16 million different colours, and you can get filters to address that alleged health problem.

 

[eduardo89]

I agree. One of the other warnings is, if you break one of those lovely CFL lights never vacuum them up or your will blow the mercury around. Isn't it great that we need Hazmat team to come to our house if we break a bulb.

Also CFL's emit a lot of EMF's. That in of itself can be detrimental to your health.

CFL's suck. They burn out quite quickly if you flip them on/off very often, take time to get up to full brightness, and generally have a very bad light colour.

 

[DamianTV]

LED's can be dimmed, the higher end models have options which can change the light to 16 million different colours, and you can get filters to address that alleged health problem.

Would you like Fries with that?

This is very similar to asking for a Woodshed and only being allowed to purchase a Factory. Its more than we need, and a means to jack up prices. Sure, not every bulb will utilize these features, but it is how the prices get jacked up.

 

[oyarde]

I will not pay more than 66.88 cents for a light bulb .

 

[Anti Federalist]

You're an idiot. The high initial price of LEDs has nothing to do with "extreme corporate greed" and everything to do with the technology being relatively new (for consumer applications) and the expense in manufacturing. The price isn't $60 per bulb, btw. Yes, it was around that a few years ago, but it is about 1/10th that price these days.

It sure as shit does have something to do with "corporate greed".

Who the fuck do you think was pushing for this ban?

The makers of non incandescent bulbs.

What better way to put your competitors out of business, than by force of law.

 

[eduardo89]

Would you like Fries with that?

This is very similar to asking for a Woodshed and only being allowed to purchase a Factory. Its more than we need, and a means to jack up prices. Sure, not every bulb will utilize these features, but it is how the prices get jacked up.

It's all still cheaper in the medium and long-run to incandescent bulbs....In the span of using one LED bulb, you'll purchase 50 incandescent bulbs.

$7.50-20 for an average LED -> $25 for incandescent bulbs (assuming they cost $.50 each). That doesn't even include the energy savings.

Assuming the LED lasts you 50,000 hours and uses 9-watts and you pay $.12 per kWh (not taking into account inflation), the total energy cost will be: $54 + the cost of the bulb (let's say it's $20, even though you can get much cheaper): $74

A typical incandescent will last you about 1000 hours, uses 60W, and assuming you pay $.12 per kWh (not taking into account inflation), the total energy cost will be: $360 + the cost of 50 bulbs = $385

 

[AngryCanadian]

This ban also takes effects in Canada as well and alot of people i know are pissed at it. Those CFLs so fucking easy and whats worse?
Did you read the warning labels on the CFLs lightbulbs? i have to say i had a good laugh lol.

 

[Anti Federalist]

LED's can be dimmed, the higher end models have options which can change the light to 16 million different colours, and you can get filters to address that alleged health problem.

Or I could just buy an incandescent bulb for a buck.

 

[Anti Federalist]

...

I had forgotten the poem thread.

I owe ya 17 reps.

At times, in the fora, my responses seem thin,
One tires of similar arguments again and again.

It's with pleasure I approach a thread such as this,
That requires more than the "virtual" equivalent of fist.

That makes one ponder of life's turns and wonders,
That requires an input to render synapse asunder.

It is to you, good sir, I say with a grin,
I heartily declare this thread to be WIN.

 

[eduardo89]

Or I could just buy an incandescent bulb for a buck.

And spend over $300 more in bulb and energy costs than if you had gone with an LED.

 

[DamianTV]

Or I could just buy an incandescent bulb for a buck.

Fails to support the Status Quo, comrade. Reprimanded, but not reported. Thou shall alter your thinking or it will be altered for you!

 

[Anti Federalist]

And spend over $300 more in bulb and energy costs than if you had gone with an LED.

Maybe.

Maybe not.

You paying my light bill?

Then what's it you?

 

[eduardo89]

Maybe.

Maybe not.

You paying my light bill?

Then what's it you?

Just pointing out that your short-term thinking actually costs you more (much much more, in fact) in the long-run.

As I said in my first post in this thread, I'm against banning incandescent bulbs. I just think people who are stocking up on them are idiots, especially the ones who think they'll be saving money by using $1 light bulbs which use 6-7 times more energy and last 1/5th the time of a $10 LED. They end up paying about $300 more going with an incandescent than they would if they went with one LED. But this is just typical of short-sighted ignorant American consumers.

 

[Ender]

Theres more to this in regards to health than just the type of light. One of the types of new lightbulbs thats been promoted has been fluorescents that have Mercury in them. Not the superbright LED lightbulbs. Breaking one of those fluorescents would be a total violation of EPA regulations due to the mercury contamination. Of course, there are probably those out there that believe Mercury is totally safe for human consumption in mass quantities.

/awaits next negative rep

Agreed- was just the first site I found before I had to report elsewhere.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Just pointing out that your short-term thinking actually costs you more (much much more, in fact) in the long-run.

As I said in my first post in this thread, I'm against banning incandescent bulbs. I just think people who are stocking up on them are idiots, especially the ones who think they'll be saving money by using $1 light bulbs which use 6-7 times more energy and last 1/5th the time of a $10 LED. They end up paying about $300 more going with an incandescent than they would if they went with one LED. But this is just typical of short-sighted ignorant American consumers.

And what if I told you that line voltage in the US frequently is above 120 volts, resulting very premature "burn out" of so called "long life" LEDs and CFLs?

 

[eduardo89]

And what if I told you that line voltage in the US frequently is above 120 volts, resulting very premature "burn out" of so called "long life" LEDs and CFLs?

LEDs are current-sensitive, not voltage sensitive. Also, designers consider transient peak currents when implementing LED driver circuits.

 

[mad cow]

Just pointing out that your short-term thinking actually costs you more (much much more, in fact) in the long-run.

As I said in my first post in this thread, I'm against banning incandescent bulbs. I just think people who are stocking up on them are idiots, especially the ones who think they'll be saving money by using $1 light bulbs which use 6-7 times more energy and last 1/5th the time of a $10 LED. They end up paying about $300 more going with an incandescent than they would if they went with one LED. But this is just typical of short-sighted ignorant American consumers.

Where are you buying these $10 100 watt equivalent LED's?Gotta link?And I don't want ones that are shaped like a floodlight,shooting all the light from my bedside lamp up on the ceiling where I don't want it and can't use it.

I generally use this lamp for reading one or two hours a night.I suppose if I had a LED bulb in it,I could leave it in my will rather than spending $0.50 every 4 or five years to replace it and one or two pennies a night to use it.That could add up,you know.

 

[eduardo89]

Where are you buying these $10 100 watt equivalent LED's?

60-watt equivalent, not 100-watt.

Here you can get 20 60-watt equivalents for $58 with free shipping:
http://www.dhgate.com/product/20pcs...ee-high-power/123947335.html#s1-4-1|892799796

 

[Brian4Liberty]

It sure as shit does have something to do with "corporate greed".

Who the fuck do you think was pushing for this ban?

The makers of non incandescent bulbs.

What better way to put your competitors out of business, than by force of law.

It's sad that so many people can not grasp the truth and weight of this basic fact.

Profit margins and cost of entry come into play.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

My bleeding heart Democrat friends have all gone LED. This after they all went CFL several years ago, but now acknowledge that was a mistake. The road to hell, paved with the good intentions of ignorant fools.