Libertarians owe "national military service" ...

[TaftFan]

Of course, Rockwell with CATO bashing. This was not from the CATO editors, but a singular writer. I am sure most if not all of their other writers are opposed.

Imagine if CATO went after Rockwell for his southern strategy, he might pipe down on his attacks.

 

[awake]

Ok, let me play the stupid game: Every gasbag tool who thinks this is a good idea owes me $19.99 a month. If you act now, I will throw in a swift boot to the side of your throat.

These knobs simply declare slavery with a straight face.

 

[69360]

Pretty sure if America was ever invaded, libertarians would be the first responders.

+ rep

We will be the ones defending the country while the liberals "shelter in place"

 

[torchbearer]

they can send me a tank. i'll hold down my corner of the country.

 

[Scrapmo]

+ rep

We will be the ones defending the country while the liberals "shelter in place"

Shelter in place? They would be welcoming their new overlords.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Of course, Rockwell with CATO bashing. This was not from the CATO editors, but a singular writer.

This was not from "LRC editors" (or Rockwell himself), but a single writer (Karen De Coster). Pot, meet kettle ...

Tell me something: if you get to attribute instances of "CATO bashing" (for things "CATO editors" did NOT actually write) on the LRC blog that were NOT actually written by Lew Rockwell (by calling them "his attacks"), then how are YOU doing anything even the slightest bit different from what YOU are accusing HIM of doing? IOW: How are you not being an utter & complete hypocrite here?

I am sure most if not all of their other writers are opposed.

Then why should CATO wish to sponsor, publish and associate itself with such tripe?

You'd never read crap like P-E Gobry's mealy-mouthed exercise in "syntax destruction" at LRC.

There is a reason for that ...

Imagine if CATO went after Rockwell for his southern strategy, he might pipe down on his attacks.

I doubt it.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

Of course, Rockwell with CATO bashing. This was not from the CATO editors, but a singular writer. I am sure most if not all of their other writers are opposed.

Imagine if CATO went after Rockwell for his southern strategy, he might pipe down on his attacks.

Rockwell (and Ron and Murray) are attacked for the southern strategy frequently.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

We will be the ones defending the country while the liberals "shelter in place"

69360, plz.

I prefer to take care of myself first, get to a safe place, keep a low profile. It could change someday. But for now if I don't like something, I proactively remove myself from it.

Could a time come in the future where an issue is important enough to me to risk that, possibly.

What issue would be important enough to you?

A direct immediate threat to my family or property. I like to be left alone and do as I please. That is still possible in my part of the country.

 

[green73]

This was not from "LRC editors" (or Rockwell himself), but a single writer (Karen De Coster). Pot, meet kettle ...

Tell me something: if you get to attribute instances of "CATO bashing" (for things "CATO editors" did NOT actually write) on the LRC blog that were NOT actually written by Lew Rockwell (by calling them "his attacks"), then how are YOU doing anything even the slightest bit different from what YOU are accusing HIM of doing? IOW: How are you not being an utter & complete hypocrite here?

Hahaha!!!! Aaaaaaahhhahahah aha aha bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....

 

[fr33]

Do you even Liberty, bro?

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Of course, Rockwell with CATO bashing. This was not from the CATO editors, but a singular writer. I am sure most if not all of their other writers are opposed.

Imagine if CATO went after Rockwell for his southern strategy, he might pipe down on his attacks.

CATO deserves to be bashed frequently. Putting a knife into the back of liberty like CATO is doing is a far worse offense than writing some mean words decades ago. Get your priorities straight.

 

[Origanalist]

Damn! Time to clean the monitor again.

 

[Origanalist]

He's getting slayed pretty bad in the comments and has the lack of wisdom to get in there and try to defend himself...

 

[fr33]

He's getting slayed pretty bad in the comments and has the lack of wisdom to get in there and try to defend himself...

I've been watching it since it was posted here. It seems like he has the authority to approve comments. It went from 2 to 79 earlier this afternoon and he responded to most of them. He'll probably approve another batch when he gets online again tomorrow.

 

[Antischism]

Do they typically publish pieces like this? Why would they approve this essay on the site? It's like they want to lose credibility (or what's left of it).

 

[Origanalist]

I've been watching it since it was posted here. It seems like he has the authority to approve comments. It went from 2 to 79 earlier this afternoon and he responded to most of them. He'll probably approve another batch when he gets online again tomorrow.

I guess he didn't think mine was worth responding too.. (or he didn't have a response)

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Do they typically publish pieces like this? Why would they approve this essay on the site? It's like they want to lose credibility (or what's left of it).

It's because they want to promote 'debate' or so they say. It's no wonder they've had such a dismal record of promoting liberty from their beltway thinktank all of these years.

 

[mczerone]

He's getting slayed pretty bad in the comments and has the lack of wisdom to get in there and try to defend himself...

He's not even defending himself. He's being a child and responding with meaningless one-liners that show a lack of concern for any reader of his article, their concerns, or even basic logic and reasoning.

Joe • 14 hours ago
Surely this is satire? The Onion hijacked a Cato piece, right?

Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry 10 hours ago −
Got me.

Isefree • 15 hours ago
Let us enslave all able-bodied men and we'll call that the price to be paid for freedom. Our ancestors did it, so should we. Some times ya gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette.

Military enslavement "need not be an institution of unjust oppression". It's only unjust in countries where people aren't "free" to vote for their masters. In a country of "free citizens" like the US it's just plain old oppression.

With a little practice the author could out-orwell Orwell.

Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry Isefree • 10 hours ago −
Conscription is totally enslavement. Just the other day Israel sold 5000 soldiers to South Korea, which it will use for pulp. Wait, that never happened. Hmm.

jason • a day ago
You just argued that involuntary servitude is libertarian.

That's like arguing squares are round. If you believe in conscription you are not a libertarian, by the very definition of the term. You are free to advocate whatever backwards and destructive political philosophy you wish, but I would ask that you not try to drag the name of libertarianism down with you.

As a Rothbardian anarcho-capitalist I reject the state itself as coercion and thus the entire premise of the article is hilarious to me, but the idea of mandatory military service is dismissed by any and all types of libertarians (Objectivists, Old Right conservatives, modern Ron Paul Republicans, individualist anarchists, US Libertarian Party types, etc).


Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry jason • 10 hours ago −
"As a Rothbardian anarcho-capitalist I reject the state itself as coercion..." Well there you go, I'm not talking to you.

 

[krugminator]

What's funny is no one mentions that Mises wrote a short Chapter about forced military service in Human Action.

I certainly am against it. Mises firmly said it should be mandatory. He was pretty viciously critical of anyone who opposed it too. Just sayin'.

I'm sure Lew Rockwell will add that point to his site. LOL.

"He who in our age opposes armaments and conscription is, perhaps unbeknown to himself, an abettor of those aiming at the enslavement of all."

 

[fr33]

He's not even defending himself. He's being a child and responding with meaningless one-liners that show a lack of concern for any reader of his article, their concerns, or even basic logic and reasoning.

His responses in the comments remind me of when Kurt Schlichter posted this article and how he responded to many of us on twitter.