Libertarians Are Worthless IF......

[tonesforjonesbones]

You can't have it both ways people. You can't have free trade (no borders) and sovereignty. Make a choice. I'm not so keen on this free market idea. I consider it GLOBALISM. Everything is about TRADE. $$$$$ ...and businesses being unfettered, but the free trade crushed our economy...it took all of our manufacturing out of the country causing loss of hundreds of thosuands of jobs. Free trade marketers have no allegience to anyone. We need to go back to TARIFFS! Tones

 

[erika]

Thank you. I'm tired of doing all the work.

You've done a wonderful job being a false opposition group, keeping the borders nice and open while the country is quickly overpopulating. Well done. The LP is one of the most worthless groups in California. Most people cannot stand their open border rejectamenta.

 

[erika]

You can't have it both ways people. You can't have free trade (no borders) and sovereignty. Make a choice. I'm not so keen on this free market idea. I consider it GLOBALISM. Everything is about TRADE. $$$$$ ...and businesses being unfettered, but the free trade crushed our economy...it took all of our manufacturing out of the country causing loss of hundreds of thosuands of jobs. Free trade marketers have no allegience to anyone. We need to go back to TARIFFS! Tones

Free trade isn't free.

 

[Kludge]

It should be noted that, as it stands currently, there is virtually no process by which unskilled laborers without connections can legally immigrate into the U.S.

 

[erika]

It should be noted that, as it stands currently, there is virtually no process by which unskilled laborers without connections can legally immigrate into the U.S.

I've met a lot of high skilled serbians and slavs who'd love an opportunity to work here.


Btw do you have any Evidence to support your claim, kludge?

Merely curious

 

[revolutionman]

i dont think you need secure boarders.

Just end the welfare entitlements that bring immigrants here by the millions and illegal immigration will go back to being a relatively benign issue.

 

[Kludge]

Evidence?

"There is virtually no process for unskilled immigrants without relations in the U.S. to apply for permanent legal residence. Only 10,000 green cards are allotted every year, and the wait time approaches infinity. (Those who receive H-2A or H-2B temporary visas for seasonal work cannot transition to a green card.)"

Flynn, Mike, and Shikha Dalmia. "What Part of Legal Immigration Don't You Understand?" Reason Magazine Oct. 2008: 32.

 

[erika]

"There is virtually no process for unskilled immigrants without relations in the U.S. to apply for permanent legal residence. Only 10,000 green cards are allotted every year, and the wait time approaches infinity. (Those who receive H-2A or H-2B temporary visas for seasonal work cannot transition to a green card.)"

Flynn, Mike, and Shikha Dalmia. "What Part of Legal Immigration Don't You Understand?" Reason Magazine Oct. 2008: 32.

Where is your link????????

Btw even if you're correct it does not defeat my argument. Any libertarian dirtbag/loser can write an article. Any neocon in newsweek can write one. That doesn't mean they are correct, unless they show realistic/scientific data.

Of course i'm not surprised about the "without relations" part. They probably have all of their illegal cousins now living here or a govt subsidized farmer who says that they are "skilled".

In fact it has been my experience that they have no fucking clue what they are doing givin that I narked out a company here in california for employing them illegally, and saw video evidence that they had no clue.

 

[Kludge]

There is no link. It is a magazine article from what I believe to be a respectable magazine, not a blog post by some white supremacist living out in the middle of nowhere with a dial-up connection fearing a cultural overrun.

If you feel it is important enough to disprove, try. If not, I believe my source to be strong enough to suffice as legitimate.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

i dont think you need secure boarders.

Just end the welfare entitlements that bring immigrants here by the millions and illegal immigration will go back to being a relatively benign issue.

But, what about the EVIL TERRORISTS?!!! They wanna kill you, your mommy, and your cute kids-haven't you heard?

 

[Kludge]

But, what about the EVIL TERRORISTS?!!! They wanna kill you, your mommy, and your cute kids-haven't you heard?

They also seek to establish a Communist government, destroy your "American culture", take your jobs, and spread diseases.

 

[erika]

There is no link. It is a magazine article from what I believe to be a respectable magazine, not a blog post by some white supremacist living out in the middle of nowhere with a dial-up connection fearing a cultural overrun.

If you feel it is important enough to disprove, try. If not, I believe my source to be strong enough to suffice as legitimate.

Or some cultural marxo-fascist ziotard named kludge. Your magazine quote is nothing more than opinion and doesn't hold water. Post the url, liar. I've already seen first hand that they are barely even low skilled and they haven't nary a fucking clue as to what they are doing. Definitly not the best and the brightest people that we could be bringing in here.

 

[erika]

They also seek to establish a Communist government, destroy your "American culture", take your jobs, and spread diseases.

Interestingly enough it's in the Communist Manifesto to erase borders.

Also in their is that a central bank is needed.

Thanks (fools)libertarians. No wonder you're not popular here.

 

[Kludge]

Or some cultural marxo-fascist ziotard named kludge. Your magazine quote is nothing more than opinion and doesn't hold water. Post the url, liar.

http://reason.org/immigrationchart.pdf

http://reason.org/immigrationchart2.pdf

If you have evidence to the contrary, post it.

 

[Kludge]

No wonder you're not popular here.

I don't seek to make many Stormfront friends, to be honest.

 

[erika]

Didn't see it there. Try again.

Btw even if you're correct it does not defeat my argument. Any libertarian dirtbag/loser can write an article. Any neocon in newsweek can write one. That doesn't mean they are correct, unless they show realistic/scientific data.

Of course i'm not surprised about the "without relations" part. They probably have all of their illegal cousins now living here or a govt subsidized farmer who says that they are "skilled".

In fact it has been my experience that they have no fucking clue what they are doing givin that I narked out a company here in california for employing them illegally, and saw video evidence that they had no clue.

 

[enter`name`here]

Thanks (fools)libertarians. No wonder you're not popular here.

Ron Paul isn't popular around here?

 

[erika]

Ron Paul isn't popular around here?

I meant california. No one here really likes the libertarians because they're pro open borders which ironically is what the NWO/NAU/globalists are pushing for.

Our state has been smashed with the turd world invasion.

 

[AutoDas]

We already have a closed border policy that somehow lets millions of so called illegals into this country already so why are you bitching at us? It's your xenophobic policies that have failed because libertarians do not constitute a majority in this country otherwise we would not just have open borders but no entitlement programs to entice unskilled labor. Libertarianism is against a national border because it hinders free trade and the Government has no right to determine who is allowed into this country, but it respects property rights so long as you can defend your property from these invaders.

 

[SeanEdwards]

I meant california. No one here really likes the libertarians because they're pro open borders which ironically is what the NWO/NAU/globalists are pushing for.

Our state has been smashed with the turd world invasion.

Cheer up, they'll go home when our economy tanks.