Libertarians Are Worthless IF......

[erika]

If they are pro open borders. A country has to be soverign to exist otherwise it can be flooded with the third world and crushed.

Most libertarians and the party itself have the ideal that there should be open borders where anyone is free to come in.

One of the communist manifesto and Nwo's major constructs is to erase borders.


FUCK THE LIBERTARIANS.

Smash globalism.

 

[Brassmouth]

As long as there's absolutely NO amnesty then I believe there are valid arguments to be made for both sides. Certainly if it was a libertarian nation in the middle of Europe I could see how having tough immigration policy would prevent a bunch of people from the surrounding socialist countries from coming in and demanding welfare and socialized medicine.

But in the US i think as long as there's no amnesty we should have relatively open borders. Not totally, but.....well you get the idea. Also, in a libertarian society where the free market exists there'd be a LOT more jobs, so the notion that these immigrants would all be deadbeats isn't really accurate, IMO.

 

[Conza88]

 

[Monolithic]

borders don't exist

they're political concepts

 

[Kotin]

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[Andrew-Austin]

Most libertarians and the party itself have the ideal that there should be open borders where anyone is free to come in.

Open borders yes, but I'm not sure there is a consensus on what that means. I think some libertarians feel "open" means people can come to American the legal way only, and that we should make it easier to come here legally.

One of the communist manifesto and Nwo's major constructs is to erase borders.

Libertarians obviously want open borders for entirely different reasons than the NWO does, so shouting "fuck them" might not be the best response.

 

[Josh_LA]

If they are pro open borders. A country has to be soverign to exist otherwise it can be flooded with the third world and crushed.

Most libertarians and the party itself have the ideal that there should be open borders where anyone is free to come in.

One of the communist manifesto and Nwo's major constructs is to erase borders.


FUCK THE LIBERTARIANS.

Smash globalism.

anybody is useless if they sit back.

 

[erika]

Nice spin but no one's buying it! And the harm it causes to the host nation is self evident!

SMASH GLOBALISM

 

[dannno]

If they are pro open borders. A country has to be soverign to exist otherwise it can be flooded with the third world and crushed.

Most libertarians and the party itself have the ideal that there should be open borders where anyone is free to come in.

One of the communist manifesto and Nwo's major constructs is to erase borders.


FUCK THE LIBERTARIANS.

Smash globalism.

Ummm, I don't think you quite understand the position or the principles behind it. There are a lot of libertarians who are ultimately for open borders, but want to protect our borders as it stands due to non-libertarian circumstances that we and other countries around us face.

This continent had open borders for a long, long, long time.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

In my experience, so-called "Libertarians" who advocate open borders are either anarchists, anarcho-capitalists, or very left-leaning libertarians. Classical Libertarians like Dr Paul advocate removing undue authority from government and empowering people to make the best border policy. Erika, you should read Dr Paul's writings on the subject as well as other classical libertarian writings before assuming so much.

 

[evilfunnystuff]

im for open borders as soon as we end all the entitlement programs that draw in those looking to leach off the system

 

[JoshLowry]

If they are pro open borders. A country has to be soverign to exist otherwise it can be flooded with the third world and crushed.

Most libertarians and the party itself have the ideal that there should be open borders where anyone is free to come in.

One of the communist manifesto and Nwo's major constructs is to erase borders.


FUCK THE LIBERTARIANS.

Smash globalism.

Don't take the troll bait!

 

[Kludge]

FUCK THE LIBERTARIANS.

Thank you. I'm tired of doing all the work.

 

[SeanEdwards]

borders don't exist

they're political concepts

The right to life doesn't exist. It's a political concept.

 

[FindLiberty]

im for open borders as soon as we end all the entitlement programs that draw in those looking to leach off the system

Yes, and right now the Ponzi scheme is mostly being propped up by inflation and new immigrants.
Without the latter, we would be at negative population (un)growth.

The Ponzi and fed schemes should collapse, the sooner the better since we can't seem to gently change course.
So, maybe we should throw everyone (new) out and then grind to a halt just to find out what a bad idea it is (bad to reject Liberty).
Unfortunately, the state will still expand - while claiming to "rescue" us from their prior failed schemes.

 

[Brassmouth]

In my experience, so-called "Libertarians" who advocate open borders are either anarchists, anarcho-capitalists, or very left-leaning libertarians. Classical Libertarians like Dr Paul advocate removing undue authority from government and empowering people to make the best border policy. Erika, you should read Dr Paul's writings on the subject as well as other classical libertarian writings before assuming so much.

...the term is "classical liberal," and Dr. Paul's stances are by no means the final say on what libertarians stand for. Immigration, like abortion and intellectual property rights, are issues that libertarians have differing opinions on.

 

[Kludge]

...the term is "classical liberal," and Dr. Paul's stances are by no means the final say on what libertarians stand for. Immigration, like abortion and intellectual property rights, are issues that libertarians have differing opinions on.

Hey! We don't need that namby-pamby wuss language around here!

Where's your patriotism?!

 

[Conza88]

Don't take the troll bait!

Hahaha! I think it'd be hard to find a post as obvious as this one... LOL

 

[Fox McCloud]

Immigration wouldn't be a problem if we had a strong economy, IMHO.

I'm opposed to open borders now given our weak economic standings, and the fact that they receive quite a few things for free (ie: we subsidize them)....however, if we became more strong, economically, and those benefits were removed, I'd have no problem.

 

[erika]

Yes, and right now the Ponzi scheme is mostly being propped up by inflation and new immigrants.
Without the latter, we would be at negative population (un)growth.

The Ponzi and fed schemes should collapse, the sooner the better since we can't seem to gently change course.
So, maybe we should throw everyone (new) out and then grind to a halt just to find out what a bad idea it is (bad to reject Liberty).
Unfortunately, the state will still expand - while claiming to "rescue" us from their prior failed schemes.

I'm all for throwing out anyone who is ILLEGAL.

Since the 1965 immigration act limited LEGAL european immigration to about 1% each year I find that policy quite racist givin that the turd world is allowed to come in unabated and even their LEGAL immigration rate is near 98%.

We allow in at least 3 million legal people each year which near 100% are turd worlders. Is that the best and the brightest? No.