Libertarian National Convention

[DrSpock]

Wrong. Simply your opinion. Bob Barr is a great vehicle for spreading liberty and freedom. Again, I'd say you are just as bad for letting the neocons and socialists transform the country. Bob Barr can prevent it from happening further.

I am not prone to emotion but your post was very amusing.

Now I must meditate and purge myself.

 

[AJ Antimony]

I found this article.

He still supports the drug war. He just wants to change strategies.

http://www.mpp.org/states/district-of-columbia/news/marijuana-project-parties-1.html

He is still an absolute neo-con. True Libertarians support legalizing all drugs immediately.

Also, he says NOTHING about the RIGHT of every citizen to put whatever they want to into their own bodies.

If he were a neocon, wouldn't he currently be an incumbent Republican congressman praising the Bush administration?

 

[Bradley in DC]

Until he states on his website that he supports the legalization of all drugs I'm going to keep on saying that he supports putting innocent people in prison.

And everyone will keep flocking to you as that authority on well-researched, reasoned and verifiable information.

 

[american.swan]

I don't get it.

I am sorry I can't read this whole thread. I am sure it would be entertaining.

I would just like to say from the little I did read. There is way too much hype on this thread over a "party" that has no chance in hell of winning the White House. If a year ago a person told me that Ron Paul had no chance in hell of winning the White House I would be angry because the GOP and DNC are large powerful vote getting groups and Dr. Paul shouldn't have been labeled a dead weight by the media and such. I personally have no problem saying the Libertarian party candidate has no chance in hell because it's true. They won't be invited to any debates. They won't have the money to compete. It's just flat out impossible.

Same goes for the Constitution party.

 

[DrSpock]

I am sorry I can't read this whole thread. I am sure it would be entertaining.

I would just like to say from the little I did read. There is way too much hype on this thread over a "party" that has no chance in hell of winning the White House. If a year ago a person told me that Ron Paul had no chance in hell of winning the White House I would be angry because the GOP and DNC are large powerful vote getting groups and Dr. Paul shouldn't have been labeled a dead weight by the media and such. I personally have no problem saying the Libertarian party candidate has no chance in hell because it's true. They won't be invited to any debates. They won't have the money to compete. It's just flat out impossible.

Same goes for the Constitution party.

Logic supports this supposition.

 

[Aratus]

hope and idealism hints at what bob barr and chuck baldwin can accomplish
if ralph nader is equally indignant at being socially snubbed! i may vote for
one of these three fine men if i am too lazy to do a write-in when i vote!!!

 

[WRellim]

If he were a neocon, wouldn't he currently be an incumbent Republican congressman praising the Bush administration?

Nah, he got gerrymandered out of office (by DEMOCRATS) with redistricting, and he picked the wrong district to run in (oops).

Hey, sh** happens, you know.

 

[Bradley in DC]

Nah, he got gerrymandered out of office (by DEMOCRATS) with redistricting, and he picked the wrong district to run in (oops).

He stayed in the same place.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

I am not prone to emotion but your post was very amusing.

Now I must meditate and purge myself.

Why, you don't like Bob either, or are you amused because it's a strangely plausible idea? Hey, if you won't let someone make progress and closet your platform from outsiders, I'd say that just as bad as hiding the cure from the sick patient, no?

Anyway, this is for Menthol

"Regarding the drug war, I've been there, done that, and know firsthand our current strategy is not working," said Mr. Barr.
"Continuing to have the federal government run roughshod over the states, even if the citizens of a state decide they wish to legalize medicinal marijuana, for example, is wrong," he said. "As president, I would completely reorient federal law enforcement priorities, that currently are skewed far too much against marijuana possession, and would consider all — and I do mean all — options."

That sounds like it pretty much despises the drug war.

 

[DrSpock]

Why, you don't like Bob either, or are you amused because it's a strangely plausible idea? Hey, if you won't let someone make progress and closet your platform from outsiders, I'd say that just as bad as hiding the cure from the sick patient, no?

I have no opinion, I neither like nor dislike Bob Barr. I do believe that his conversion is rather convenient in that he can now expect a portion of the R3volution to support him financially.

Personally I prefer my leaders have forethought and insight into the issues that they will be dealing with everyday. Based upon his voting record and some of the positions he still holds he is not only lacking in the previous qualities but also lacks an understanding of the Constitution.

 

[G-Wohl]

If he were a neocon, wouldn't he currently be an incumbent Republican congressman praising the Bush administration?

There are neo-conservatives on the Democratic Party's side too, and they aren't doing anything of the sort.

Bob Barr ISN'T a very good LP candidate. He supports a "national sales tax" in place of the IRS, which is only a gimmick. Taxes are taxes, no matter which way you look at it! He doesn't explicitly state on his website anything about his positions on the War on Drugs either, which is a very important position to me and any libertarian concerned about freedom. Ron Paul is more libertarian than Bob Barr is, especially considering the fact that Bob Barr was one of the bad guys until only a couple of years ago. This makes me very uneasy, because we have people like RP who have had the same positions since they first entered the political game.

At least Wayne Allen Root ended up losing out - thank goodness. EDIT: Oh shoot - Root ended up getting VP. We truly have the worst ticket that we could have possibly conceived of this year.

 

[AJ Antimony]

There are neo-conservatives on the Democratic Party's side too, and they aren't doing anything of the sort.

Bob Barr ISN'T a very good LP candidate. He supports a "national sales tax" in place of the IRS, which is only a gimmick. Taxes are taxes, no matter which way you look at it! He doesn't explicitly state on his website anything about his positions on the War on Drugs either, which is a very important position to me and any libertarian concerned about freedom. Ron Paul is more libertarian than Bob Barr is, especially considering the fact that Bob Barr was one of the bad guys until only a couple of years ago. This makes me very uneasy, because we have people like RP who have had the same positions since they first entered the political game.

At least Wayne Allen Root ended up losing out - thank goodness. EDIT: Oh shoot - Root ended up getting VP. We truly have the worst ticket that we could have possibly conceived of this year.

We'll just have to wait and see who Ron tells us to vote for--I expect that'll come after the RNC. If he says to vote for Barr, then Barr has to be doing something right to get an endorsement from Mr. Liberty himself.

 

[speciallyblend]

yep

There are neo-conservatives on the Democratic Party's side too, and they aren't doing anything of the sort.

Bob Barr ISN'T a very good LP candidate. He supports a "national sales tax" in place of the IRS, which is only a gimmick. Taxes are taxes, no matter which way you look at it! He doesn't explicitly state on his website anything about his positions on the War on Drugs either, which is a very important position to me and any libertarian concerned about freedom. Ron Paul is more libertarian than Bob Barr is, especially considering the fact that Bob Barr was one of the bad guys until only a couple of years ago. This makes me very uneasy, because we have people like RP who have had the same positions since they first entered the political game.

At least Wayne Allen Root ended up losing out - thank goodness. EDIT: Oh shoot - Root ended up getting VP. We truly have the worst ticket that we could have possibly conceived of this year.

I truly thought mary was the better choice for the lp party,but ooo well. She did very well. If Ron Paul doesnt win the gop nomination. Then i just might have to be one of her activist in the next 4 yrs. the gop better shape up or we will have to ship them out

 

[Akus]

in for later

 

[speciallyblend]

well same goes for the GOP

I am sorry I can't read this whole thread. I am sure it would be entertaining.

I would just like to say from the little I did read. There is way too much hype on this thread over a "party" that has no chance in hell of winning the White House. If a year ago a person told me that Ron Paul had no chance in hell of winning the White House I would be angry because the GOP and DNC are large powerful vote getting groups and Dr. Paul shouldn't have been labeled a dead weight by the media and such. I personally have no problem saying the Libertarian party candidate has no chance in hell because it's true. They won't be invited to any debates. They won't have the money to compete. It's just flat out impossible.

Same goes for the Constitution party.

as far as im concerned the libertarian party is better of then the dying gop

it takes time,the gop wasnt born overnight. they are growing and with the gop's tactics. the lp should explode this election. If not you can add the gop to the list of useless parties the lp is a better choice for me if the gop nominates useless mccain..

 

[JS4Pat]

what is the problem with barr, you guys are crazy.

His explanation for his vote for the Iraq War Resolution. He says he regrets it but gives the reason - it was not how the administration "sold it".

Wrong FREAKIN answer!

His explanation should be because he transferred his constitutional responsibility to DECLARE WAR to the Executive Branch. Set aside the obvious inconsistency with support for a non-interventionist foreign policy - The constitutionality of the decision should be CLEAR to EVERY Libertarian. And he should make this point and apologize for it.

That goes for The Patriot Act - which he voted for as well.

That Said...

I think he is probably good for the Libertarian Party because his name recognition and respect amongst conservative Republicans will help expand LP membership and ensure ballot access in 2012.

Many times better than McCain, Obama or Clinton - but still don't think I can get behind him.

 

[Bradley in DC]

True Libertarians support legalizing all drugs immediately.

I think they voted on that today, you lose.

 

[scotto2008]

I have no opinion, I neither like nor dislike Bob Barr. I do believe that his conversion is rather convenient in that he can now expect a portion of the R3volution to support him financially.

I was asking myself what in hell Bob Barr could gain from running as a Libertarian. Why would anyone run on the LP ticket unless they believed in the ideas?

 

[FindLiberty]

How did the LP Platform changes turn out today?

 

[rockandrollsouls]

I was asking myself what in hell Bob Barr could gain from running as a Libertarian. Why would anyone run on the LP ticket unless they believed in the ideas?

Exactly. Bob Barr would have been better to run for the Republican nominee, and believe me, he would probably be schooling McCain right now.