Liberals worried: Bitcoins, think tanks and the Koch brothers

[FrankRep]

Bitcoins, think tanks and the Koch brothers
http://news.muckety.com/2013/12/11/bitcoins-think-tanks-and-the-koch-brothers/45271

Dec. 11, 2013

As if there isn’t enough dark money in the think tank funding stream, at least one organization is now accepting bitcoin.

The Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty has announced that it will take the internet currency for donations and tuition payments.

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Acton Institute for the Study of Religion and Liberty
http://www.acton.org

 

[Petar]

Glad to see that you are finally starting to come around on Bitcoins, Frank.

 

[FrankRep]

Glad to see that you are finally starting to come around on Bitcoins, Frank.

Only as a means to transfer money quickly. I don't support bitcoin as a currency or as money.

 

[dannno]

Only as a means to transfer money quickly. I don't support bitcoin as a currency or as money.

Well that's a shame because if it does become used widespread you will be losing out on a lot of profits from holding onto some BTC.

I'm not saying to sell your gold and silver and buy BTC or that BTC is some great long term store of value like gold, but holding onto some BTC as an investment in anti-authoritarian infrastructure that you can actually profit from is a pretty good deal.

 

[Seraphim]

Contradictory statement.

"money transfers" are done by currency and by hard money itself. If it is used for money transfer, it is CURRENCY. PERDIOD. End of story.

Only as a means to transfer money quickly. I don't support bitcoin as a currency or as money.

 

[FrankRep]

Contradictory statement.

"money transfers" are done by currency and by hard money itself. If it is used for money transfer, it is CURRENCY. PERDIOD. End of story.

I also used the word "quickly" because the bitcoin's value is very volatile.

 

[ctiger2]

I also used the word "quickly" because the bitcoin's value is very volatile.

This is normal for all startup's as explained in this video.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHUPPYzzZrI

 

[juleswin]

This is normal for all startup's as explained in this video.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHUPPYzzZrI

Didn't happen with Anarchy online credit price. Bitcoin is having this unique problem because it was never used as a commodity before it was granted money status. That is why the market is having a hard time finding its center

 

[Muckety]

Your definition of "individual rights" apparently doesn't include copyright protection, since you published an entire Muckety post here without permission.

Muckety is a free site which welcomes links and provides interactive maps for embedding on other web sites. But what you did is theft, not to mention just plain lazy.

Thought it was the liberals who lived off others' work.

 

[dannno]

Didn't happen with Anarchy online credit price.

Because nobody knows what it is?

 

[Muckety]

Oh, right. What was I thinking? Ron raised one of the great plagiarists! Good for you, for following in his footsteps.

 

[dannno]

Your definition of "individual rights" apparently doesn't include copyright protection, since you published an entire Muckety post here without permission.

With a direct link to the article...

Muckety is a free site which welcomes links and provides interactive maps for embedding on other web sites.

Great, so there's no problem then?

But what you did is theft, not to mention just plain lazy.

Thought it was the liberals who lived off others' work.

FrankRep did not post the article as his own, he linked to your site. There was zero plagiarism or theft involved.


However while FrankRep actually believes in Intellectual Property Rights, many libertarians reject the concept entirely:

http://mises.org/journals/jls/15_2/15_2_1.pdf

http://freenation.org/a/f31l1.html

 

[Muckety]

The entire post appears above, not just a link. And while many libertarians may not believe in intellectual property, Ron apparently does. He filed a copyright lawsuit earlier this year.

 

[CaseyJones]

Your definition of "individual rights" apparently doesn't include copyright protection, since you published an entire Muckety post here without permission.

Muckety is a free site which welcomes links and provides interactive maps for embedding on other web sites. But what you did is theft, not to mention just plain lazy.

Thought it was the liberals who lived off others' work.

edited for ya, next time please contact admins or mods and we will take care of it for you

 

[dannno]

Oh, right. What was I thinking? Ron raised one of the great plagiarists! Good for you, for following in his footsteps.

If it wasn't for 'plagiarism' and humans copying each other, we would still be pooping in caves. Do you want to poop in a cave?

Human achievement has flourished immensely since we have learned to take the good ideas from others and incorporate them into our own lives. We have discovered that this effect is exponential when everyone can then take good ideas from everybody else and incorporate them into all of our lives. Therefore an inventor would be better off sharing his inventions and helping to manufacture them for others while others share their ideas and make goods and services for everyone else than if everybody had limited choices and were not allowed to copy others.

The main libertarian case against intellectual property comes from property rights itself. You should be able to do whatever you want with your own property, including using your property to copy or make something else.

 

[Muckety]

Thanks.

 

[CaseyJones]

Thanks.

no problem, thank you for writing about these subjects

 

[FrankRep]

Thanks.

Thanks for letting us know about the Acton Institute. I'm glad they support Limited Government.

 

[juleswin]

Because nobody knows what it is?

www.anarchyonline.com is an mmorpg game and I was a player in it when members started selling credits online. The credits were selling 100m credits for $19.00 and it maintained that price for quite a long while, this idea that any new commodity on the market has to be volatile is just that, an idea.

The reason why it did was because people actually had demand for it before it was used as money, bitcoins was never valuable to anyone before it was used for money.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

If it wasn't for 'plagiarism' and humans copying each other, we would still be pooping in caves. Do you want to poop in a cave?

Human achievement has flourished immensely since we have learned to take the good ideas from others and incorporate them into our own lives. We have discovered that this effect is exponential when everyone can then take good ideas from everybody else and incorporate them into all of our lives. Therefore an inventor would be better off sharing his inventions and helping to manufacture them for others while others share their ideas and make goods and services for everyone else than if everybody had limited choices and were not allowed to copy others.

The main libertarian case against intellectual property comes from property rights itself. You should be able to do whatever you want with your own property, including using your property to copy or make something else.

You can do all of those things without plagiarism. By the way, intellectual property has been around since Thomas Aquinas.