Lew and Tom on the Trump phenomenon

[LibertyEagle]

They're dumb as rocks.
They're racists.
They support Donald Trump for President.

In other words, they don't believe in the unfettered illegal alien invasion of our country, like erowe does.

 

[Sola_Fide]

In other words, they don't believe in the unfettered illegal alien invasion of our country, like erowe does.

I believe in unfettered immigration also. That is what people who love freedom believe. People who value the free market also believe in a free market in labor.

I believe that Kentucky should not put police around it's borders and keep out people from Ohio. Why? Because people are free and the market should be free.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I believe in unfettered immigration also. That is what people who love freedom believe. People who value the free market also believe in a free market in labor.

I believe that Kentucky should not put police around it's borders and keep out people from Ohio. Why? Because people are free.

No, because they both are in the same country and under the same general principles. ie. the Constitution

People who love freedom realize that not all people in the world want to live under the same set of principles. So, nations are created. Each nation can live under their own set of principles. No need for a one-size-fits-all.

To not recognize these truths is complete naivete and is the agenda of the one-worlders.

 

[erowe1]

People who love freedom realize that not all people in the world want to live under the same set of principles.

Not all people in the USA believe in the same principles. Do you propose deporting the ones who don't?

So, nations are created.

Where did you get this ridiculous view of history?

 

[H. E. Panqui]

...i'll be watching for the loud, angry 'rand paul purists' around here to slip up and criticize 'libertarian purists'...

 

[Rad]

...i'll be watching for the loud, angry 'rand paul purists' around here to slip up and criticize 'libertarian purists'...

What do you plan to do?

 

[BGfree]

Some of the theories being presented here are getting pretty outrageous. Tom Woods and Lew Rockwell aren't advocates for Trump. They're just enjoying watching the RNC's futile efforts to push their agenda while Trump throws a series of monkey wrenches in the machine.

None of the people involved in the GOP's management are creative enough to come up with the wild schemes that some people on here are outlining.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Not all people in the USA believe in the same principles. Do you propose deporting the ones who don't?



Where did you get this ridiculous view of history?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to erowe1 again.

Sorry, brother.

 

[Zack]

I listen to his podcast often, and the critical stuff people are saying in this thread about Tom Woods ...just seems to come from nowhere...

 

[HVACTech]

Sorry, brother.

classic HB and erowe1..

inventing new ways to bash the Constitution and patting each other on the back for it.

 

[H. E. Panqui]

rad asks: What do you plan to do?



..why, i will thoroughly expose their republicrat hypocrisy and publicly shame them...(that's about all we do here on the world wide internet political forums, isn't it?)

...btw, tom woods in not enough of an absolute rand paul purist...he doesn't cheer like a 14 year-old girl at a beatles concert..he must be destroyed!!

 

[Rad]

Lemme try, they are neoconfederate closet white nationalist who are challenging a man that is almost like the reincarnation of Jesus/Buddha, Rand Paul! They should be blacklisted by every self respecting Libertarian. Rand Paul isn't just a libertarian. He is libertarianism. What he does is libertarianism in practice! What he says is its doctrine. These neoconfederate shrills who are obviously supporters of radical Islam, and who are critical of the greatest and the most humane democracy of all time which is our indispensable dear ally Israel should be boycotted and hounded like the dogs they are in social media!

 

[Jingles]

All they are discussing is Trump, calm down. (Although they didn't mention Rand opposed Iraq as well... But I think Rand vs. Ron drama is really touchy in those circles that are close to Ron... But that is a whole completely different topic).

My dislike of Trump comes from more of the view that Rand is supposed to be what he has obtained the spotlight for (the anti-establishment guy). His name, his fame, his money, has completely overshadowed our efforts. I like that he is basically just saying whatever he wants, but I hate that I know he will not be what I want in office. He is establishment in a non-establishment guy. So he overshadows a real candidate who will create real change. Sucks, because he has that comedian ability to just turn around any attack/insult/whatever into a joke or turn it out to be a benefit. I have absolutely no solution to this other than we need basically like a libertarian comedian or something to run against him (brainstorming).

I don't think fighting Trump in terms of "look how serious I am about real things" will work. WE have this horrid population that thrives on pure entertainment over substance (and reality frankly) when it comes to politics. We have to fight fire with fire if we hope to win, sadly. This campaign needs to get dirty, angry, and whatever things we don't want to do if we want to combat a tv personality. You don't beat a comedian by telling him how "inappropriate" his jokes are. You beat him by telling better ones.

 

[Chieppa1]

Tom had another episode on the debate on Wednesday with Lew.

This time, Tom gives Rand props for some of his answers on drugs and war. Of course old ass Lew has to drop "but" on everything. He is just a whining douchebag who wants to talk about politics & elections but doesn't want to acknowledge when someone actually "plays the game" correctly. He can't understands that Rand is playing to the crowd in front of him, not the Mises Institute.

Just my two cents.

 

[sylcfh]

None of them support Trump, especially his protectionist trade policy.

Rand supporters are thin skinned wimps these days. That's why he's being ignored. He needs to come out swinging instead of this wishy-washy nonsense.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

None of them support Trump, especially his protectionist trade policy.

Rand supporters are thin skinned wimps these days. That's why he's being ignored. He needs to come out swinging instead of this wishy-washy nonsense.

Like the largest tax cut in American history ($300 billion, eliminates payroll tax), and the largest spending cut in American history ($500 billion, eliminates whole departments)?

Yea, that's some weak pussy shit, huh?

He should, like, talk about building a wall on the border or sumptin, and insult media people, duh Alpha pwns duh noobz brah!

 

[sylcfh]

Like the largest tax cut in American history ($300 billion, eliminates payroll tax), and the largest spending cut in American history ($500 billion, eliminates whole departments)?

Yea, that's some weak pussy shit, huh?

He should, like, talk about building a wall on the border or sumptin, and insult media people, duh Alpha pwns duh noobz brah!

Yeah, it is. It's a load of fluff. Congress will shut down anyone who attempts major spending cuts. Besides, the FED will continue to print money regardless of tax rates. It's simply a choice between a stealth tax (inflation) or getting robbed every April.

Rand Paul is more interested in playing politics than spreading liberty. Ron was as radical as possible, and that didn't work. Neither is Rand's strategy.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Yeah, it is. It's a load of fluff. Congress will shut down anyone who attempts major spending cuts. Besides, the FED will continue to print money regardless of tax rates. It's simply a choice between a stealth tax (inflation) or getting robbed every April.

Rand Paul is more interested in playing politics than spreading liberty. Ron was as radical as possible, and that didn't work. Neither is Rand's strategy.

Huh? Ron was as radical as possible, that didn't work. Rand is not as radical as possible, that isn't working. So, what is going to work? Tripling Federal police forces and building walls that are going to be used to keep Americans in? Yeah, that's really tough.

 

[sylcfh]

Huh? Ron was as radical as possible, that didn't work. Rand is not as radical as possible, that isn't working. So, what is going to work? Tripling Federal police forces and building walls that are going to be used to keep Americans in? Yeah, that's really tough.

Clearly the best strategies magic unicorns and giving the straw man a brain.

No one in this thread is arguing that Trump is anything more than a circus act.


Those who run the media and the political parties have no principles. They don't care if you play their game or give them the finger. They will not allow the message of liberty to be spread using their networks.

 

[nikcers]

Trump is a pathological liar that is trying to portray himself as someone with Asperger like symptoms. I wonder how long can he really continue this dualism and systematically offend people to get media attention and then take it back a day later as if he didn't mean it. He has mastered the art of convincing people what he wants them to believe almost religiously.