Lew and Tom on the Trump phenomenon

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

And yet FOX (media arm of the RNC) is doing everything possible to promote Trump, including "attacking" him.

The media launched the same kind of attacks on Rand Paul this year, calling him misogynist, etc. Were those all fake too? Does the media secretly support Rand Paul? You have no discernment either. You are clueless.

 

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

So because he's an enemy of the RNC he's your friend?

I said no such thing. I was simply pointing how ridiculously faulty your analysis of the situation is and was. That you have no response (other than to put words in my mouth) is a concession on your part that your argument was asinine, worthless, and wrong. I will accept your admission of cluelessness graciously.

 

[jj-]

You are clueless.

Stating the obvious here, there is no shortage of posts that made that evident. But maybe it'll wake him up? lol, probably not.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

No, they didn't believe having Trump calling her a bimbo and attributing her questions to menstruation wouldn't have toppled Trump.

They didn't believe Trump calling McCain not a war hero wouldn't have toppled Trump.

In those two instances they tried as hard as possible to eliminate Trump, they thought they succeeded, but they failed.

They've contrived a series of opportunities for Trump to portray himself as "anti-establishment," in order to neutralize any genuinely anti-establishment movement.

 

[SilentBull]

I said no such thing. I was simply pointing how ridiculously faulty your analysis of the situation is and was. That you have no response (other than to put words in my mouth) is a concession on your part that your argument was asinine, worthless, and wrong. I will accept your admission of cluelessness graciously.

You're the one who is clueless if you think the fact that a few people at the RNC hating on Trump means anything. Why do you think the TV networks are giving Trump 24/7 coverage? Why do you think the TV networks have chosen NOT to bring up Trump's support for Obamacare? Is it because they hate him?

Let me help you with the answer. They want voters to focus on Trump until the last minute, at which point, they will actually take Trump down, allowing Bush to win the nomination. Just like in 2012 when Romney was the last man standing. Don't be a fool.

 

[jj-]

Why do you think the TV networks have chosen NOT to bring up Trump's support for Obamacare?

What? They brought up single payer in the last debate. What planet are you on?

 

[SilentBull]

What? They brought up single payer in the last debate. What planet are you on?

So what? What percentage of the 24/7 coverage is that? How much of that 24/7 coverage is actually damaging to Trump?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

The media launched the same kind of attacks on Rand Paul this year, calling him misogynist, etc. Were those all fake too? Does the media secretly support Rand Paul? You have no discernment either. You are clueless.

There's no parallel at all, either in the kind of coverage or the amount.

 

[jj-]

So what? What percentage of the 24/7 coverage is that? How much of that 24/7 coverage is actually damaging to Trump?

The single moment of highest ratings in the whole electoral season so far?

 

[SilentBull]

The media launched the same kind of attacks on Rand Paul this year, calling him misogynist, etc. Were those all fake too? Does the media secretly support Rand Paul? You have no discernment either. You are clueless.

Actually when the media really hates a candidate, they ignore him. They don't give him 24/7 coverage and air his conferences live. And if they do cover the candidate, it's to talk about things that would actually hurt him with voters.

 

[jj-]

There's no parallel at all, either in the kind of coverage or the amount.

Yeah, it was obviously a lot more damaging to say "you call women fat pigs". So it was different but in a way that proves you wrong.

 

[SilentBull]

The single moment of highest ratings in the whole electoral season so far?

You want to compare 1 question from the debate with people turning on their TV and seeing Trump's face every minute of the day?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

So what? What percentage of the 24/7 coverage is that?

Since the debate, I've seen exactly one (1) mention of it on FOX, about 15 seconds on Special Report a couple weeks ago (and I watch a lot of FOX).

They spend the other 99.9% of their time fear-mongering over immigration, and then air a clip of Trump for the guests to "comment" on.



...it really couldn't be more obvious.

 

[jj-]

You want to compare 1 question from the debate with people turning on their TV and seeing Trump's face every minute of the day?

It didn't stick. They would've wasted their time. If you don't believe me, tell Rand to mention it again at the debate. I bet Trump's post debate numbers won't go down because of that. Get a clue.

 

[kahless]

They've contrived a series of opportunities for Trump to portray himself as "anti-establishment," in order to neutralize any genuinely anti-establishment movement.

Foxnews is going to do another hit piece on Trump tonight with Kelly having Ramos on. This does not help Trump. Other than getting more airtime they are treating him like they did Ron.

The only reason he is getting more airtime than Ron did is because he has a history of delivering ratings and celebrity status.

 

[SilentBull]

Foxnews is going to do another hit piece on Trump tonight with Kelly having Ramos on. This does not help Trump. Other than getting more airtime they are treating him like they did Ron.

The only reason he is getting more airtime than Ron did is because he has a history of delivering ratings and celebrity status.

You think the Ramos incident will hurt Trump with Republicans?? Absolutely not! This is getting Republicans even more riled up.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Okay, I just relistened to the episode and I just can't stand Rockwell's voice.

I admit Woods sounded a bit ignorant of the theory of Trump as Hilary's Trojan Horse. But I would not be surprised if he an episode on it with another guest.

He did say multiple times that Trump would be a terrible president. And also that Trump is part of the establishment.

Why? He has one of the least annoying voices in media. Soft fundamental and slow, mellow overtones.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Foxnews is going to do another hit piece on Trump tonight with Kelly having Ramos on.

LOL, that's not a hitpiece bud.

After spending the evening on how all Mexicans are criminals, they bring on a Mexican Democrat to criticize Trump...

Yea, boy, that's gonna hurt.



I'd kill for FOX to do such "hitpieces" on Rand.

 

[kahless]

You think the Ramos incident will hurt Trump with Republicans?? Absolutely not! This is getting Republicans even more riled up.

I meant that as it is not intended to help Trump. So far it has backfired on them and it remains to be seen at what point they can damage him with these hit pieces.

 

[Rad]

Correction: Scott Horton doesn't like any of them, including Trump. Please don't link him to neoconfederates who love Trump for his political incorrectness and entertainment value. Scott Horton is a non-interventionist and Rand isn't. Everyone has issues that are make or break (I would think?). There is no reason to waste time to hate on a tiny fragment of the Ron Paul movement while ignoring the large pro-Israel Republican primary voter. Why should they vote for Rand instead of other pro-Israel candidates? That is what I think opposition research should focus on, not Trump, or people who have little sway beyond a niche.

Woods, Rockwell, and Hunter are the albatrosses that Maddow will use to beat Rand with if he starts threatening the establishment by rising in the polls. Then they will have some libertarians come on saying we aren't like that we aren't racist.