Levin taking calls from Paul supporters

[GetTech]

Right On! Why do they even keep talking about him running 3rd party....is the GOP worried? If Paul is not there, I'll vote Obama again. The Country has woken up. It's time for the neocon's to get on board here or fall again for another 4 years.......

 

[Cap]

I could care less, third party, GOP, no party, AmericansElect, whatever.

Just so the GOP knows one thing:

No One But Paul.

No Paul and I walk or write in or vote third party.

I will not be fooled again, and will not support, vote for, campaign or in any other way attach myself to any of the current crop of GOP system candidates.

Right now it's looking like Romney, the worst of the bunch, and, on the issues that matter to me, either Romney or Obama are awful.

In fact, for a couple of personal reasons, Romney might be worse.

No One But Paul

And there are enough people in the GOP base now that think the same way.

Get behind Ron, the only man of consistent principles and adherence to the Constitution, come on in for the big win and save the Republic before it's too fucking late.

Or take four years more of Obama.

Your choice, GOP rank and file.

The grass roots should make a "no one but Ron Paul commercial". Lots of different people, different ages, different careers, different sexes...etc.

 

[scrosnoe]

Republican Party and Relationships

First I must say that it is almost all I can do to get through a thread here anymore. Is there any way everyone could work together to clean up the language? I don't want to read foul language in order to participate here. Should I leave and give up? I understand the concept of 'free speech', so I am asking everyone to clean it up of their own accord and letting you know I am not a happy camper. I may give up on this 'free association' if it continues. I am near my limit of tolerance.

Now on the topic of Ron Paul and the third party question. I thought Dr. Paul handled it perfectly. He did not give credence to it but he did not close the door either. Our relationship with the Republican party must be built on a relationship of mutual respect and one of core principles. I tell them what I expect and I know what the rules are and I see if I can generate enough people to insist on them doing it my way. If I don't have enough people to get my way, then they will do something else and I will decide if I help or not, stay or not.

If Ron Paul is not the nominee for President, he might be offered oh say the VP slot -- if we have the numbers to insist on it. We might even prefer Secretary of the Treasury or some other slot than VP, but that would be a little trickier and less likely. Easier probably to just win the thing and make all the appointments.

The point being Ron Paul is very astute about these matters and he will insist that the party treat him AND his people properly. He knows the leverage he has and we must show the Republican party both the numbers and the money to gain and keep their respect. We also have to take and control the party slots and do the work of the ongoing party structure. But we are already doing that to some degree this cycle with the fundraising efforts.

Can we sustain it? Will we do the hard work at the precinct level and in the phone banks on an ongoing basis for people up and down the ticket?

Not easy but it has already started and the endorsements will grow as our numbers and our commitment and resolve continues.

I hope so! The future of the country depends on it. This may be our last chance...

ps A Ron Paul presidency will only be successful if we have built a firm foundation that can be mobilized repetitively to implement policy -- reducing the size and scope of government will not be easy throughout the process -- we must insist on it!

 

[Dary]

I love how Ron and us supporters piss off Mark Levine. It's just priceless.

That alone is worth the price of admission.

Ron Paul winning the nomination would be icing on the cake.

If Ron doesn't get the nomination, and after Obama wins the election (cuz of No One But Paul) it's gonna be pure bliss hearing assholes like Levine farting out their rage in the form of blame towards us; Blaming us for Obama's win instead of the rank and file's own ignorance and apathy.

I wish there were some way I could get Levine to bad mouth me personally. That would be the best. The ultimate compliment. A true badge of honor.

 

[jmdrake]

why? They treat him like dirt, or try to. They should give him something for it, something meaningful.

they don't ask anyone else. He makes it a point not to forclose future decisions, because you never know. What if it turned out he thought the nominee was going to loot the country? Not saying it would happen, but how does he know it won't? It's not like they've been so fair to him he should feel any obligation at all, now is it?

He didn't last time, and the Libertarian party and Constitution party were practically fighting over him. He won't unless things are extraordinary.

+rep. I seriously doubt there are more than 10 potential GOP voters in this country that are thinking "Hmmmmm.....I would consider voting for Ron Paul, but he might run third party if he loses". Ron's already been as definite as he can without signing a blood oath not to run third party. And if he did that the Levin's of the world would just jump back to their typical hate Ron Paul talking points.

 

[jmdrake]

He doesn't need to tell them anything. If he rules out a third party run then that will almost guarantee a full scale blackout and/or a barrage of hit pieces against him. They are ignoring Ron to the best of their ability, but not enough to not piss him off yet. If he commits to not running third party I believe the media will dismiss him more so than they do now.

+rep

 

[Travlyr]

If Ron Paul wins the GOP nomination will Romney run 3rd party?

 

[Czolgosz]

Ignore the attempt to push a third party message. Go forward with supporting Ron's candidacy in the Republican primaries. Do not be swayed.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

If Ron Paul wins the GOP nomination will Romney run 3rd party?

literally the perfect response.

 

[acptulsa]

If Ron Paul wins the GOP nomination will Romney run 3rd party?

This is indeed literally the perfect response.

And the answer is no, of course not, because the only thing he has going for him whatsoever is that he's the whitebread establishment G.O.P. flavor of the cycle, and if he ran independent and he and his wife and thirty-two children were too busy to vote for him, he'd get literally no votes whatsoever.

But even though they ask this question of Ron Paul and never ask it of Mitt Romney, we're to believe this isn't media spin. Oh, nosiree, perfectly legitimate inquiry that all the voters need to know to make an intelligent decision.

 

[freejack]

If Ron Paul wins the GOP nomination will Romney run 3rd party?

This is how Ron should reply to the question from now.

 

[acptulsa]

This is how Ron should reply to the question from now.

I'd be fun to see this be Ron's question 'to the other candidate of your choice' during the next debate. That could get quite the epic reaction from the crowd. Especially since everyone would instantly think about what an epic fail a Flip Flopney candidacy would be without the blessing of the G.O.P. behind it.

 

[wgadget]

So did anyone hear any Paul supporters on Levin's show?


I didn't.

 

[acptulsa]

I'd be fun to see this be Ron's question 'to the other candidate of your choice' during the next debate. That could get quite the epic reaction from the crowd. Especially since everyone would instantly think about what an epic fail a Flip Flopney candidacy would be without the blessing of the G.O.P. behind it.

He could even, after the laughter dies down, say, 'I know you didn't do it in 2008. I didn't either, but I keep getting the same question over and over and over, and it occurred to me that no one had bothered to ask you, so I just thought I'd ask lest you feel left out.

 

[RoyalShock]

Ron does need to come out and say he's not going to run 3rd party.

Ron and the movement have made a lot of progress since 2007. If Ron doesn't completely rule out a 3rd-party run and especially if he does run 3rd party, that progress will stall for the foreseeable future. And any chance of Rand getting a future nomination is greatly harmed.

 

[wgadget]

Ron does need to come out and say he's not going to run 3rd party.

Ron and the movement have made a lot of progress since 2007. If Ron doesn't completely rule out a 3rd-party run and especially if he does run 3rd party, that progress will stall for the foreseeable future. And any chance of Rand getting a future nomination is greatly harmed.

How will that progress continue if he loses the GOP nomination?

And are you equating Ron with Rand? It seems that even as of now, the GOP does not equate them.

 

[Voluntary Man]

LEVIN & CO: "Dr Paul, it's been rumored that you're considering hitting me."

Dr Paul: "I have no intention of hitting you."

LEVIN & CO: "Will you make a blood oath, right here and now, that no matter what I may do to you in the future, you will never hit me, under any circumstances?"

Dr Paul: "Now, you're just being ridiculous. Next question, please."

Right now. 3rd party run hype. I can't get through but someone needs to get through and tell him Ron didn't bring this up and doesn't want to be pressured into an answer. Also, sore loser laws point to him most likely not running at all. Hopefully someone can get through.

 

[Anti Federalist]

The grass roots should make a "no one but Ron Paul commercial". Lots of different people, different ages, different careers, different sexes...etc.

I'd donate to this, specifically.

 

[milo10]

He doesn't need to tell them anything. If he rules out a third party run then that will almost guarantee a full scale blackout and/or a barrage of hit pieces against him. They are ignoring Ron to the best of their ability, but not enough to not piss him off yet. If he commits to not running third party I believe the media will dismiss him more so than they do now.

Great, great post.

I don't understand party politics enough to know all the pluses-and-minuses of running third party. But, imho, if Cain should get the nomination somehow, then Ron should run. The voter remorse will be HUGE. He is in some sort of weird bubble right now, but if he actually takes the nomination, then I think Cain would be the most loathed and least-respected major-party candidate in American history. Cain is inconsistent, evasive, and at times genuinely creepy. He is the type of candidate that destroys parties, and that has happened throughout our history.

In those circumstances, Ron may not be able to win 3rd party, but he could very possibly beat Cain. The Republican party being buried like that is huge, and really changes the course of politics and policy-making in this country. To me, that would be the next best thing to Ron winning.

I don't think a third-party run makes sense with Romney as the nominee, as he is simply not the train wreck that Cain is.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I don't think a third-party run makes sense with Romney as the nominee, as he is simply not the train wreck that Cain is.

Why?

Flip Flopney is just as disingenuous as Cain, even more so.

He just masks it better with smooth speech patterns and good hair.

Which to my mind, makes him even more dangerous.

He packages everything that Obama is doing, (which is to say what the globalists running the show want) in a nice, shiny, Red Republican package, so that the other half of the country will eat the poison as well.

Oh and for you Rand fans, a Romney victory will mean Rand won't have a reasonable shot until 2028.

Eight years of Romney, followed by eight years of "the other guys".