Letterman hates Rand

I have come to the realization that this government will collapse from its own weight. The only thing all of us....ALL of us..will need to do, is pick up the pieces.

Stay healthy. Stay strong. We will need everybody.

oh, and fuck letterman. He stopped being funny when he cut his hair off.
 
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great post. however, your friend klamath has been saying anyone who doesn't agree with him is going to be killing innocents, and children. he's been quite the flame around here lately to put it mildly.

And I think if he's a vet of three wars, maybe there's some repentance to be had, and I've been a little harsh on him - but that projection onto others has been really uncalled for.



and aside from that, we'll coalesce when it's time. thanks for the thoughtful post.


Look, I stopped posting here because we are ALL to eager to turn out our best allies as enemies. I did everything I could to enforce the Constitution and I was too dam radical for the party. i started winning Party leadership (because the party activists mostly agree with us believe it or not) and they brought in Karl Rove to stop me, and he is likely to succede because we all are too dam busy hating our own.

We have to stop and reassess. right the hell now, because we are doing it wrong. these neocon jackasses hate each other but they lay that aside so they can work to defeat us. We are too busy kicking each other out of the club and sitting at home saturated in apathy to actually stand up and stop this.

Jesus people, we have the manpower to overwhelm the establishment in a single year if we would only stop being so damn stupid.

I'm really getting disgruntled here because 1000 people in a single state, which should NOT be a dam challenge at all, wins the whole state but we can't be bothered because Rand is now an enemy.

I don;t even talk to people on RPFs anymore because I'm too dam scared that I'll say one dam thing people don;t get and suddenly I'm the enemy. What the hell is wrong with us?

We can still win, but we have to change the way we do business right the hell now.

Klamath is not your enemy. You don't understand where he;s coming from and I get that. Rand Paul is not your enemy. You don't understand that and i get that.

But until we stop and figure this out we are going to be killing ourselves WAY more effectively than the neocons.

We could crush this whole damn thing in a single year but it's apprant to me that we don;t really want it. It's too important to cast out people who maybe have the wrong color eyes or who wear the wrong cut of suit to come together and fight for a common cause

do we want to win? or do we want to hate on one another and let the neocons win?

That's our choice to make, and heretofore we've been making the wrong choice. So figure it the hell out.

If we don;t want to win let me know and I'll go back to buying food and ammo for the coming conflagration. if we want to win, victory is in our hands. We just have to put our differences aside and seize it.

From where I sit it looks like we don't really want it.

Prove me wrong.

I frikkin beg you please prove me wrong.
 
Yes I will, and so will klamath. Difference is we have to make dam sure that we are shot and shot and shot and shot again before we start shooting back, because 75% of the equation is perception. We have to CLEARLY be the oppressed if we expect to win, because people are stupid, and that's just the way it is.

This violence you speak of is coming whether we want it or not. The monster has to be obviously the aggressor or it's all a waste, and people will die for nothing. We aggress, and we will be put down like rabid dogs and the people of America will say Amen. There are things about the way this all works that people do not get.

Sure, it's now likely to come down to blood. I can see the lunacy of people who think they are grassroots supporting Karl Rove without even knowing it, and I can see where this is all going. My own real opponent in the VC race was brought in by Karl Rove and she has no idea. She thinks her friend asked her to run, not even knowing that they were asked by a friend who was asked by Coby who was instructed by Rove.

You can't just stand up and start shooting. You have 300 million people who are mostly morons that if you lose them they will knee-jerk deeper into statism. This isn't checkers it's chess, and our own dam movement is worse to us than the establishment.

Jesus people. Where I used to take inspiration has left me to run the hell away because it's too damn dangerous to even talk to you people. OMG if I look off in the wrong direction I'm going to be the next enemy of liberty because my eyeballs have taken the wrong angle from the ground.

We have a problem, and that problem is us. We are way, way to quick to hate our own, when we are in an environment of morons who elect pharisees who would rather stone Magdalene than to follow Christ. And God forbid someone like me even dare to mention Christ half the movement vomits like I;m the enemy.

We want to win? We have to start coming together around a common cause and stop hating our best allies. We can win. that's what pisses me off the most. We have the passion and the manpower to win overwhelmingly but it's like we don't want it. People give, sure, and thank God peple give or I'd be on the streets begging for food right now, bit people don;t show up.

My goodness, there will be maybe 300 of our people at the NC GOP convention in June amongst a delegation of 1300. You dam well know there are more than 1000 paulers in NC who couldn't be bothered to stop clipping their dam toenails long enought o show op for two. two. two dam conventions and take over the State.

Now I got Karl Rove what came to NC specifically to stop me. That's tright they brought Karl Rove in to stop me, and sill we can't scrape up 300 delegates because we are too damn busy hating each other more than we hate the establishment.

Y'all better wake the fk up. If we want to win this dam fight we need to change the way we do business and right the hell now.
Great post Gunny. What you say is true. You and I are on the same page as we know every single last effort has to be made to accomplish our objective in peace for once the war Gods are released there will be even a less chance to achieve our objective. Wish I had extra dollars to send you way but it is kind of tight here taking care of my sick elderly mother.
 
Can people at least admit libertarians are not necessarily Libertarians? Then could you admit that we, unlike David Letterman, do not support gun control. The whole thing started over someone's unfounded remark.

I mean shit, accuse me of make enemies while I'm not the one who started it.
 
So far as anyone who sees this thread, may we set aside our differences. Lay down our arms against one another, and point them at the enemy.

I must say that a political solution to our grievances is at best an illusion, but we must try and if not succeed, then band together, for we know what is on the horizon.

I forgive and forget, but we must move forward.
 
Can people at least admit libertarians are not necessarily Libertarians? Then could you admit that we, unlike David Letterman, do not support gun control. The whole thing started over someone's unfounded remark.

I mean shit, accuse me of make enemies while I'm not the one who started it.

Letterman is a jackass. I stopped liking him in grade school in like 1986. I can't imagine anybody on RPF's supporting gun control. That's my point. ALL of us agree on 99.999% of everything, but that 0.001% always has to be a deal breaker. We have to get past that or we are going to lose.
 
for the record, i never said killing innocents and children even in collateral damage is ever acceptable. that's what the enemy will do, and it's what obama and his entire administration are guilty of at this current moment.

as far as a civil war goes, if it's going to happen. it will happen. kind of tired of waiting, as you could liken me to a frog who's jumped from the boiling water to only be held back by the rest who think it's a soothing bath or something...... it's already time to jump.
I never said you did but others HAVE. No there is no clean war. Killing innocents and children will happen in a civil war. The gods of war do not care. That is my point. Maybe some of us are trying to hold you back because we know it is sure immediate death in the flames under the pan of water. It maybe getting hotter but you are still alive to figure out any possible way to get out alive. I respect life for without life you cannot practice liberty.
 
Letterman is a jackass. I stopped liking him in grade school in like 1986. I can't imagine anybody on RPF's supporting gun control. That's my point. ALL of us agree on 99.999% of everything, but that 0.001% always has to be a deal breaker. We have to get past that or we are going to lose.

speaking of the 80's




been grooving to this lately, hope you enjoy it
 
Hey Gunny, I just watched your Grassroots North Carolina video on your website for the first time (don't know how I've missed it all this time!). That was a great speech (especially for off the cuff) and inspiring. Thanks for all you do!
 
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klamath is here to cause dissension

Oh, that's so much bullshit and you know it. Klamath was calling it like it is. Who needs Letterman to attack Rand; the so-called "libertarians" are already doing a damned good job of it. THAT is the point and Klamath is right on.
 
1st ever 2-time recipient of Stooge of the Night award, lol.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzBilHefAlg


yes, he's very butthurt about the defeated gun control bill, he ripped Rand for it last week when Rand got his first Stooge of the Night award, and then went on a really long awkward dialogue about Rand's hair and how the people of Kentucky elected a toupee to the senate, it's at 16:00 in the below video if anyone wants to watch it but you have to wait thru a bunch of ads.

http://www.cbs.com/shows/late_show/video/wYQET9xWXLjrxmS_y3bhPjD2xJWskucH/the-late-show-5-8-2013/

What an ignorant old man. Sad he is paid to say this stuff and he really does it, low very low.
 
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Dayum, moments like this where you realize who Carol is and why she is with Ron.
 
Letterman stopped being funny when he left his 12:30 NBC show, and that was a LONG time ago.
 
Oh, that's so much bullshit and you know it. Klamath was calling it like it is. Who needs Letterman to attack Rand; the so-called "libertarians" are already doing a damned good job of it. THAT is the point and Klamath is right on.

Define "attack." I would say that 90% of us who sometimes criticize Rand's statements engage in constructive criticism, trying to hold his feet to the fire and get him to come more in our direction on certain issues. There may be about 10% of people here who do actually "attack" Rand and use personal attacks like "f*ck you Rand," but these people are certainly in the minority.
 
Define "attack." I would say that 90% of us who sometimes criticize Rand's statements engage in constructive criticism, trying to hold his feet to the fire and get him to come more in our direction on certain issues. There may be about 10% of people here who do actually "attack" Rand and use personal attacks like "f*ck you Rand," but these people are certainly in the minority.
This is why I've called certain Rand supporters "Randroids"....just as Obamabots in 2008 who screamed "RAAAAACIST!" at any disagreement or criticism of Barack, Randroids overreact to criticism of Rand.
 
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